Meghan Markle taking Mail On Sunday to Court *MNHQ tweaked title for accuracy*

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And about time, too. They never stop castigating her.

Prince Harry has said that he's worried that she'll end up being the same kind of victim that his mother was with regard to the Press.

I hope she wins her case.

If you want to be a frontline royal then you need to accept the fallout, criticisms etc...

There is a difference between accepting your public role and the publicity that comes with it, and accepting they will print your private correspondence.

copyright belongs to the writer

Using this argument, we are saying that any letter sent to her can be published. Letters from her doctor, her employer, her bank. Would anyone be happy with that? I’m not sure it’s only relevant who the copyright belongs to. Even people in the public eye are entitled to a certain amount of privacy.

The Cambridges successfully sued Closer for publishing topless photos of Kate.

The law is on the Sussexes side.

If you want to be a frontline royal then you need to accept the fallout, criticisms etc...

And they do. But why on earth should they? People are just desperately, desperately sad. Leave them alone and get a life.

And they do. But why on earth should they? People are just desperately, desperately sad. Leave them alone and get a life

Agreed.

If it really happens this court case will not end well, they are going to court over the publication of a letter she sent her father.

For background in court out will come the whole story of how Doria disappeared for her teenage years and how her father wanting the best chances for her invested all of his life savings and winnings on putting Meghan through private school. Whatever Doria was up to for those years is usually buried, but that will have to come out which isn't fair on her. And it will be hard in the eyes of the public to justify shunning a father who provided a home and sacrificed so much for Meghan during those years just because she married someone "posh" and is in the public eye. This case will disappear the same way the naked pictures of Kate Middleton case did. The Mail on Sunday are loving it.

Meanwhile, no one is discussing Air Miles Andy popping off to Australia. Is it possible for any member of the RF to go a whole week without stepping on a plane? I am so sick of all of them.

I thought the RF withdrew her protection officers when they removed her HRH Princess of Wales title?

My understanding was that she was still offered round-the-clock protection from Scotland Yard by the queen but Diana turned that down.

Trevor Rees-Jones was employed by Mohamed Al-Fayed.

Using this argument, we are saying that any letter sent to her can be published. Letters from her doctor, her employer, her bank. Would anyone be happy with that? I’m not sure it’s only relevant who the copyright belongs to. Even people in the public eye are entitled to a certain amount of privacy.

Doctors, banks etc are bound by their own professional codes, contractual relationships, and so on.

Absolutely agree with LillianGish’s thoughtful and well-phrased post.

I think the Sussexes are being very badly advised. The African tour was going extremely well and will now be totally over-shadowed by this. My other thoughts are that:

• Thomas Markle - what an utter shit to release this letter
• the Sussex’s are being badly advised (or ignoring advice) as any fool knows that the British public hate hypocrites so to fly hither and yon whilst preaching about climate change wasn’t going to go down well
• they also have made some remarks which are either thoughtless or downright pointedly nasty towards the Cambridges (declining to go on the cover of Vogue as that would be self-aggrandising when Kate was on the cover quite recently and the whole thing about absolutely not having more than two kids ‘for the planet’ when the Cambridges had just had their third). Just seems quite nasty - they really shouldn't be saying things like this in the public domain.

I do hope she wins agains the MOS though. It’s so sad - thinking back to the wedding day and her beautiful walk up the aisle, first alone and then with Charles, her beautiful mother a picture of dignity and grace. What a ghastly shame it all is.

Yes namechange but what about the case against the photographer? that disappeared. And all that happened with the Closer case was that all of the french newspapers republished all the photos every time the case was mentioned to demonstrate the intrusion of privacy! You couldn't make it up.

I hope she wins. The press coverage of her is awful. She is a new mum and subject to the most horrific abuse. It doesn’t speak well of us as a country that we buy this crap. We need to remove demand.

Harry NBU. His mum died.

I had the radio on the other day in the car and there was some professional gossiper on talking about a celebrity - I can’t remember who, someone like Sienna Miller I think. It was talking about how she’s getting married but still has a great relationship with her ex and shares residency of their children.

I was just listening to it thinking - why does anyone care what a stranger’s residency arrangements are? How is it anyone’s business how former couples act after a divorce?

I don’t ever read this sort of content and I just cannot understand how there’s an industry around this.

If you’re a massive fan of somebody, I understand wanting to know more about their work, their process, what they enjoy... but the minutiae of their lives? Whether their postnatal arse looks big in a skirt? I don’t understand it at all and don’t think I ever will.

I think mm has a fair point wrt her personal letters. But it's okay imo for the press to criticise spending of public money while not giving the public baby photos, for example. The relationship between the royal family and the press/public is two way - they get their lives very nicely financed and the public gets the level of access it has come to expect. The world is changing and the days of treating the public as if it has no right to infinite on their privacy in any way, while taking our money, needs to come to an end. Don't like it, then become a wholly private citizen!

Diana used the press as much as it used her. The same is true for all the others including H & M.

Bloody autocorrect. Infinite = infringe

What or where is Compton - have no idea why this is considered an insult?

I’m sorry but you don’t have a right to unfettered access to a person’s private life just because of who they married. You don’t have a right to photos of their baby, just because taxes support them. And why do you want any of this?

Sure, publish stories that are legitimately in the public interest (eg. Fraud, embezzlement, manipulation of a position of power, being a sex pest and running a country) but beyond that there is no public interest here. The entitlement of some people is utterly ludicrous.

That man lost his mother due to this sort of behaviour. Have a speck of empathy.

But it's okay imo for the press to criticise spending of public money while not giving the public baby photos, for example.

Not it’s not it’s fucking weird.

I’m a Republican, I don’t think we need a royal family at all. But given that we’re stuck with them - why not leave them the fuck alone.

I don’t give two shiny shits whether they publish baby photos or not. I most certainly do not think that use of public money obliges them to do so.

Wonder how many posters who feel it's ok to print her private life would be ok with the tabloids printing their lovely life?

Most of us on this thread, I would imagine, are not public figures. That's the important distinction.

Diana was pretty coy with the press as I recall (I'm no longer familiar with her story) and didn't exactly seek to minimise the intrusion in her later years.

Was publishing the letter illegal?

How do they have the gall to claim they wont be having a third "for the planet" while having two little jet setters already? If you care about the planet it should have been none. Sickening.

Yes I'm glad she's taking them to court too. The racism and misogyny is shameful, including on mumsnet. And I'm not even a royalist.

Very sensible post, @LillianGish

How do they have the gall to claim they wont be having a third "for the planet" while having two little jet setters already? If you care about the planet it should have been none. Sickening.

Their environmental hypocrisy is well-documented and probably needs no further comment . But I think on the main, it's good that someone in his position at least mentioned where family planning slots into the movement.

It could be very easily construed as a swipe at the Cambridges, though.

That man lost his mother due to this sort of behaviour.
No he didn't.
Diana didn't die because a newspaper published a letter she'd written.
She died because she was in a car with a drunk driver.
Not wearing a seatbelt didn't help.

I don't mean (or want) unfettered access. On a personal level I'm not that interested. But a lot of people are. It wouldn't have killed them to release a few baby pics or tell the public who his godparents are, instead of all the coy 'here's a picture of his foot' bollocks. The people who care would have been happy and H &M could have carried on blowing public money with less criticism. Happy days all round - I am not sure why they didn't just go down that route.
Instead they've irritated people and drawn attention to themselves in a more negative way. It was totally unnecessary. And now the public is focused on their spending and their hypocrisy over flights etc.

It's possible to be critical of a person's behaviour and still retain sympathy for their personal loss. No child should lose a parent at such a young age. But the fact remains that the relationship between public and RF is two way. Either follow the 'rules' or be a private citizen. No one is compelled to be a member of the RF.

@percheron67 Compton is a district in Los Angeles which is renowned for rap music and gang warfare.

See the movie, Straight Outta Compton.

Do you see why the comparison might be considered racist or demeaning?