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Meghan Markle taking Mail On Sunday to Court *MNHQ tweaked title for accuracy*

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TheMustressMhor · 01/10/2019 23:20

And about time, too. They never stop castigating her.

Prince Harry has said that he's worried that she'll end up being the same kind of victim that his mother was with regard to the Press.

I hope she wins her case.

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TottieandMarchpane · 02/10/2019 00:16

@TottieandMarchpane copyright belongs to the letter writer.

Yes, I thought so.

And don’t forget they manipulated the content so didn’t show what exactly it said. That’s the issue

I don’t think I ever knew the ins and outs of it. Just that she was asking him to stop the media stunts.

Chloemol · 02/10/2019 00:16

@croprotationinthe13thcentury so basically you are saying bullying is ok. Great example you are to any family member then, o4 ar3 you just a bully anyway in rl?

Venger · 02/10/2019 00:17

The press didn't actually kill Harry's mother

They were a contributing factor in the circumstances leading to her death and then continued to photograph her while she was dying.

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TheMustressMhor · 02/10/2019 00:18

The press didn't actually kill Harry's mother.

They made her life an utter misery though.

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TottieandMarchpane · 02/10/2019 00:18

The press didn't actually kill Harry's mother. The only person who survived the car crash was wearing a seatbelt. She wasn't.

Harry seems to really believe the paparazzi killed her, doesn’t he? He’s referenced this before.

It’s all a bit emotional all round of this is going to be a case that evokes his mother’s death for him and touches on her estrangement from her father for her.

Maybe it’s the only thing they think they can win a case on.

Tavannach · 02/10/2019 00:20

She wrote the letter so the copyright is hers.
I think she does get some things wrong - the expensive clothes, the comment about only having two children, the endless flights - but it's a difficult role, especially if you don't understand all the nuances of British society. I think she is trying hard to do it well and the constant criticism must be so undermining.

TottieandMarchpane · 02/10/2019 00:23

@TheMustressMhor with all due respect, if you start a thread about a moderately interesting case of a Royal suing a tabloid, posters are going to discuss it with reference to what the legalities might be and to what the facts are.

There’s not much point if you and @Venger are going to keep piping up in chorus to “correct” posters who assert facts.

Meghan Markle taking Mail On Sunday to Court *MNHQ tweaked title for accuracy*
multivac · 02/10/2019 00:25

I think what people are missing here is how incredibly hard it is for a member of the royal family to instigate legal procedings at all. For it to get this far, trust me, they will have a fucking strong case.

And as a fervent republican, I hope they are vindicated. Because it's only when the powerful start 'speaking truth to power' - when they are affected - that things actually change.

TottieandMarchpane · 02/10/2019 00:25

It’s also a bit peculiar that you’re bemoaning public bullying, while slinging the C word around at other posters.

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TheMustressMhor · 02/10/2019 00:26

I really don't think that this is only a "moderately interesting" case, @TottieandMarchpane.

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kateandme · 02/10/2019 00:28

i cant imagine sitting at home or coming home every day and looking at my partner if what is happening to meghan was to them.it would both anger and destroy me.and then not to be able to lash out or sort it would just make that feeling worse.the need to protect would be huge. so then to find something they have done to finally bring some jutice i would leap on too.

TottieandMarchpane · 02/10/2019 00:28

So you think it’s VERY interesting? But you’re nevertheless going to keep arguing with fact and calling people cunts? Nice.

The media didn’t kill Diana.

They have arguably been targeting Meghan Markle.

Two unconnected facts.

koutouloufariqueen · 02/10/2019 00:29

The press didn't actually kill Harry's mother

The paparazzi press absolutely did kill Harry's mother.
She was stalked by the media so only a moron would wonder why Harry has took this stance and wants to protect his wife from the same fate.

The gutter press are vile - they took a private letter from her to her father, twisted and published it.

No, she is not ok to be stalked by the press because she married into the royal family - I'm disgusted by anyone who could think her private life is ok to be ripped apart, mostly untrue, because she has the audacity to be in the limelight and 'privileged'

Wonder how many posters who feel it's ok to print her private life would be ok with the tabloids printing their lovely life?

nah ,didn't think so

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TheMustressMhor · 02/10/2019 00:30

I think you're right @kateandme. They do finally have something which they clearly believe will bring them legal redress after years of bullying.

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TheMustressMhor · 02/10/2019 00:32

They have arguably been targeting Meghan Markle.

There isn't anything arguable about the vitriol written about this woman. It is in plain sight.

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nancy75 · 02/10/2019 00:33

I hope she wins, the way they treat her is vile, however I worry that this will make her even more of a target. The newspapers don’t tend to take criticism well.

Peakypolly · 02/10/2019 00:34

So conflicted over the whole royalty thing.
I am a republican. The only members of the royal family I have a care for are Harry and Meghan.
I have no choice but to pay a proportion of my tax to support the royal family in style, and as they choose to take our money, I feel entitled to see at least 64p a years worth of them...and Archie is pretty cute so I was pleased to see him.
I think Thomas Markle wanted this letter published (and I know nothing about ownership of written material etc. I’m sure the legals on here are correct but I’m just giving my opinion of the situation) and can see why he wanted the British public to know his side of things.
The Mail on Sunday employs many staff, (who pay tax) the readership like to read about the royal family. I want to keep print journalism as a thing.
Etc.etc. really. So of course YANBU but I think I am pretty hypocritical over this subject and I’m not alone.

Winterlife · 02/10/2019 00:35

@TottieandMarchpane "But maybe her copyright? Isn’t that the general rule with correspondence?"

I believe her suit would have to be against her father, who released the correspondence.

Winterlife · 02/10/2019 00:36

PS - This also then gets into conflict of laws. Where did the damages arise? Did they arise where the letter was released (Mexico), or where Thomas Markle agreed to publication (UK).

AlbertWinestein · 02/10/2019 00:37

I’m so glad they’ve stood up for themselves. And he’s right, the way she has been vilified in such a vulnerable time in her life has been absolutely disgusting.

Winterlife · 02/10/2019 00:38

The paparazzi press absolutely did kill Harry's mother.
She was stalked by the media so only a moron would wonder why Harry has took this stance and wants to protect his wife from the same fate.

Er, no. She was killed by getting into a car with a chauffeur who had a blood alcohol reading well over three times the legal limit, and who crashed the car she was riding in.

TottieandMarchpane · 02/10/2019 00:39

There isn't anything arguable about the vitriol written about this woman. It is in plain sight.

You’ve started a thread about a legal situation but you seem to be getting tetchy with anyone who is trying to discuss what the facts are or understand how the legal side might go. (I hope a libel law comes on and explains in detail.) It was a strange thread to start if you just want to emote.

It’s not hard to see that it would would be awkward for any member of the RF to sue for harassment or complain about vitriol. Which must be why they’ve picked a specific infringement that they’re confident of winning a case on.

You do understand that? That there’s a legal framework and a political context? That it’s unusual for a royal to do this? That they need to prove a specific wrong?

TottieandMarchpane · 02/10/2019 00:40

I believe her suit would have to be against her father, who released the correspondence.

Oh! That is interesting.

multivac · 02/10/2019 00:40

She was killed by getting into a car with a chauffeur who had a blood alcohol reading well over three times the legal limit, and who crashed the car she was riding in

So now take that sentence out of the passive tense. What happens?

koutouloufariqueen · 02/10/2019 00:43

Er, no. She was killed by getting into a car with a chauffeur who had a blood alcohol reading well over three times the legal limit, and who crashed the car she was riding in.

Whilst chased by paparazzi no? Agreed the chauffeur was a contributing factor but come on, the papps were a massive factor in her death. You'd be thick as cheese to think otherwise.