Meghan Markle taking Mail On Sunday to Court *MNHQ tweaked title for accuracy*

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And about time, too. They never stop castigating her.

Prince Harry has said that he's worried that she'll end up being the same kind of victim that his mother was with regard to the Press.

I hope she wins her case.

Hi Ang, you see I think that's exactly what the gutter press hope for - for whatever agenda knowing that 'the public' will take as truth what a 'friend' (call me cynical but never named - usually it's a 'source'). I think they're absolutely right to call them out on their lies, harassment and absolutely Harry won't want what happened to his mother (I absolutely disagree with PP - the paparazzi chasing them down the tunnel were a major factor in her death) and he is seeing history replaying itself. Good on him from protecting his wife from the same fate.

*angell84 Wed 02-Oct-19 23:03:26
@koutouloufariqueen. Ooh it was me that said that.

I mean I don't know her. I don't know anyone in the public eye, but we still all form opinions on them.

I arrived at my own opinion of her that she is a bit ruthless and self serving due to:

Friends saying that she cut them off when she became famous
She totally cut her brother and sister off.
She cut her dad off , when all he did was sell a few photos.

Alot of people have said that she has thise traits: self serving and brutal to people.

So that is how I arrived at my opinion of her.*

I just think that alot of people that have known Meghan - at different stages of her life - have said that she was cruel to them.

That strikes me as total bollocks. Who are all these people?

There will always be a couple looking to make a quick buck obviously. But Meghan has long-standing friendships with ppl from all stages of her life, which would rather undercut the ‘cruel user’ narrative that you’re pushing.

Most actors are narcissists

WTAF?

&angell84 Wed 02-Oct-19 23:11:05
I just think that alot of people that have known Meghan - at different stages of her life - have said that she was cruel to them.

That comes from somewhere.*

Is this personally or read online? Personally of course you would find her that way - online? I'd ask you not to be so blinkered - there are a lot of people who are jealous of her/disagree with the monarchy and would be happy to slate her/make up lies. This comes from somewhere? I use my judgement not others, however biased.

(I absolutely disagree with PP - the paparazzi chasing them down the tunnel were a major factor in her death)

I'm old enough to remember it well. I remember pictures of the car on the news, weren't there paparazzi on motorbikes chasing them, weaving, flashing camera lights at them? If I remember correctly...
Most have been terrifying trying to get away safely.
As for the press they absolutely do put a spin whether negative or positive depending on whether they like you today or not.
Just general choice of words to implant a negative bias.... you soak it up subconsciously.
About time it stopped

Yet there were no stories from people saying Michelle Obama had been cruel to them. For example.

Because the press have no truck with her (in this country at least). Though I’m sure plenty of bollocks was covered in the states.

And she doesn’t evoke the same ire as Meghan, because she didn't marry the most eligible of the royals, so the consumer appetite isn’t there.

The concept of copyright of private letters seems to rely on at times contradictory precedents. I had always assumed that the ownership of a letter lies with the receiver but the words therein might be copyright of the writer. But at the same time, both historic and more recent contemporary biographies tend to frequently contain excerpts of private letters and publications cannot always be stopped. Also, I seem to recall that there were some distinctions between the relationship of who wrote and received the letter, for example between a married couple. However, the latter might have been in the context of a divorce case. On a human level though, I would feel sorry for anyone if a personal letter to a parent was published and done so incomplete to potentially skewer its content. That is a very different scenario to general crappy/unflattering reporting.

Also ‘I love Michelle Obama’ is not some kind of guarantee that racism plays no part in how you react to other people of colour.

Is ‘I love Michelle Obama’ the new ‘I’ve lots of black friends’ btw?

Hearing her so each tonight was hard.poor woman.
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Speach* oh do please fuck off autocorrect

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I always call Kate Middleton Kate Middleton rather than call her Kate Windsor Mountbatten or the Duchess of Cambridge.
Likewise with Meghan Markle- I don't call her Meghan Windsor Mountbatten or the Duchess of Sussex.

Also, there will be a trial by the public jury. This will not end well

No, there won't. These are essentially legal issues and will be tried (if the case comes to court) by a Civil Court judge.

@Grumpelstiltskin, the law is very clear that copyright in letters remains with the author of those letters.

She cut her dad off , when all he did was sell a few photos

Come off it. It only takes a minute's google to discover that he did a hell of a lot more than that. Including selling the letter in question.

@Tonnerre That was mainly my assumption but it seemed to not always protect the letter writer. However, I might have that mixed up with citing excerpts for comment when a letter had already been published.

@tonnerre he sold photos and a letter. He didn't kill anyone.

Princess Diana also talked to the press all the time, and gave information and whole books to the press.

I don't think that her dad deserved to be villified

close to most of her family She didn't invite them to her wedding so I'm not sure 'close' is an accurate description of her relationship with any of them, except her mum.

To be fair, MM herself pre-marriage had a blog where she posted on all sorts of things for publicity and furthering her career by doing so, including her personal life and family (her father was at her first wedding etc).

And she has quite a strong media presence now. Its hard to reconcile such a desire for privacy with such a deliberately strong media profile. Is it ever going to be possible to exert the level of control PH and MM wish to exert over the media and their image? The constant dramas, the repeated lecturers by PH to the press, yet they need the media to keep them popular and in the public eye so as to justify their position.

I've got a feeling this legal action, while clearly intended as a warning, will actually stir up the press to reveal more.

I think the general perception of Meghan as a bit ruthless is due to several reported ‘facts’.
Dumping her first husband unceremoniously by returning the ring by post.
Not having any family other than her mother at the wedding
Seeming to court friends who can benefit her career and profile
Advocating feminism whilst having made dodgy commercials using her ‘assets’ in the past
People who knew her from her younger days. reporting that she had an agenda to marry someone with influence and in the public eye from a fairly young age
Reports that she was rude to staff or staff left when she married Harry
Reports that she is demanding and rather self important
Diva like behaviour with the christening, withholding info about the hospital she was due to give birth in, coy ‘arty’ shots of Archie
Self regarding body language, preening, posing, ‘look at me’ bump touching. (Yes that again)
Reports that she had upset Kate
Reports that some of Harry’s friends do not like her and had been ghosted as a result
She enjoys the sound of her own voice and often seems to want time limelight whilst Harry hangs back
Enjoyment of spending very large sums on clothes which often look ill fitting and ill thought out
Having gone through at least two nannies before the current nanny
Spending very large sums on the refurbishment of a new home when they could have stayed at KP
Not going to Balmoral
Preaching to the minions and congratulating the minions in being worthy in her/their estimation whilst holding themselves to different standards
Not seeming to have much interest in or knowledge of the UK
Seeming to court favour with the US market and wearing foreign designers in preference to British ones
Seeming to promote the interests of friends on her Instagram and through what she wears.
Courting celebrity friends and getting them to speak on her behalf
The reputation she has for not listening to advice, believing she knows best.

Many or most of these perceptions could be false. However this is the impression many people have. It is why some people feel she comes across as arrogant and a bit smug at times. She may be a really lovely caring person who behaves in private with humility, but that isn’t the perception generally.

And she doesn’t evoke the same ire as Meghan, because she didn't marry the most eligible of the royals, so the consumer appetite isn’t there.

If that was eligible, the word should be redefined.

Michelle, in contrast, is married to the rather gorgeous and hugely charismatic Barack.

Harry just doesn’t cut it.

They could have opted for a tightly controlled media image, following the rest of the RF's PR practice (where the authorised leaks come from within the household).
Or they could have adopted a more proactive approach like Diana, cultivating certain journalists, leaking stories and photo ops. I think M considered this when she told her friends to befriend Piers Morgan after the wedding. But it was a clumsy approach and showed a lack of understanding of how Diana cultivated Piers.
atm they seem to be viewing their rocky relationship with the press as some kind of sign of integrity but actually it's turning into a tedious sideshow that will distract from their causes and the genuinely good work they do eg Invictus Games.You can't win with the media if you're being adversarial.