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Meghan Markle taking Mail On Sunday to Court *MNHQ tweaked title for accuracy*

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TheMustressMhor · 01/10/2019 23:20

And about time, too. They never stop castigating her.

Prince Harry has said that he's worried that she'll end up being the same kind of victim that his mother was with regard to the Press.

I hope she wins her case.

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Dongdingdong · 02/10/2019 14:28

I'm still surprised by the timing of Harry's statement - why now, just after their fantastically successful tour? Unfortunately it means the legal action is now all that everyone is talking about. It has overshadowed all their brilliant, positive work somewhat.

LaurieMarlow · 02/10/2019 14:29

As for shaming someone into silence, you are being very silly. I’m sure we have both been members here long enough to know Bertrand doesn’t need you standing up for her, she’s not going to become your bessie mate cause you told the nasty woman how mean she was being

Don't draw me into some pathetic Mean Girls pastiche, I've no interest.

These threads always reach a certain point and then someone busts out the Bertrand's over invested line.

And I think that's a really interesting technique of trying to shut down intelligent debate. And I'm calling it out.

We should all have better things to do with our time than be on here. Me included.

NoSauce · 02/10/2019 14:30

BertrandRussell doesn’t get irate on these threads at all. She’s the voice of reason. Some of you would do well to reflect on what she’s saying.

EntropyRising · 02/10/2019 14:32

We should all have better things to do with our time than be on here. Me included.

Wise words lady. Wink

Mollymoo01 · 02/10/2019 14:33

And I think that's a really interesting technique of trying to shut down intelligent debate. And I'm calling it out.

It’s lucky you’re here to do that, we would be lost without you.

ThePallidBustOfPallas · 02/10/2019 14:34

Bertrand makes the racist bile spewers very uncomfortable. It is because they don't have an intelligent answer to their unpleasantness that they turn on her. Very transparent and happens every single time.

cakeisalwaystheanswer · 02/10/2019 14:35

Wow popped back on MN whilst I eat my lunch for 5 minutes and the same old crap is being recycled. I am actually shocked at how much time some people spend posting on MN. Does nobody work?

LaurieMarlow · 02/10/2019 14:36

It’s lucky you’re here to do that, we would be lost without you.

Happy to help Wink

Mollymoo01 · 02/10/2019 14:37

ThePallidBustOfPallas
Would you care to show me where I have been racist?
I would be incredibly upset if I had unconsciously done so!

As for being unpleasant I don’t see how? I’ve said what I think are the issues PH and MM face.

LaMarschallin · 02/10/2019 14:37

Dongdingdong

I'm still surprised by the timing of Harry's statement - why now, just after their fantastically successful tour
Unfortunately it means the legal action is now all that everyone is talking about. It has overshadowed all their brilliant, positive work somewhat.

I agree that, imo, it's very bad timing.

However, Harry and Meghan may have felt that they should strike while the iron's hot and the press seemed much more in their favour than it has been for some time.

Or it could be that - due to the legal process - it had to come out exactly when it did.

SerenDippitty · 02/10/2019 14:38

The paparazzi press absolutely did kill Harry's mother.

They absolutely did not. They were not responsible directly or indirectly for the fact that Diana was not wearing a seatbelt, that her driver was drunk or for the fact the car crashed.

justasking111 · 02/10/2019 14:40
  1. She is not a young virgin
  1. She has been divorced
  1. She is bi-racial
  1. She is american
  1. She is an actress
  1. She does not get along with her dysfunctional family and has gone NC.
  1. She has an energetic work ethic.

The modern version of the seven deadly sins.

Dongdingdong · 02/10/2019 14:44

However, Harry and Meghan may have felt that they should strike while the iron's hot and the press seemed much more in their favour than it has been for some time.

Or it could be that - due to the legal process - it had to come out exactly when it did.

If the former, I'd say that was somewhat misjudged. If the latter, totally understandable!

LaMarschallin · 02/10/2019 14:51

If the former, I'd say that was somewhat misjudged. If the latter, totally understandable!

I totally agree.

I suspect (obviously I can't know) that Harry wrote and released the letter off his own bat. Possibly more experienced and less emotionally-involved advice would have suggested he/they hold back a little.

TatianaLarina · 02/10/2019 15:01

They were not responsible directly or indirectly for the fact that Diana was not wearing a seatbelt, that her driver was drunk or for the fact the car crashed.

No but they were the reason the driver was going so fast and took the route he did.

DontMakeMeShushYou · 02/10/2019 15:06

@Anyminutenow

Ah thanks shush my understanding so far was that anything else fell more into data protection, whereas profiting from sharing was infringement of copyright.

Can you point me toward this in law please? (Link)

I missed your post earlier (had to pop into town - these pesky kids keep growing out of their school uniform).

There is a lot of information about copyright out there but there's quite a good summary on the Government's webpages; www.gov.uk/copyright

Copyright protects an individuals intellectual or creative output. Data protection and GDPR are concerned with the data that companies and organisations hold and distribute about individuals. There may be some overlap but they are different. Selling individuals personal data might be very profitable but could be a breach of GDPR; using other people's creative output (such as photos, scans, or quotes from letters) in your doctoral thesis, without gaining the proper permissions, is unlikely to be profitable at all but would be a clear breach of copyright.

LaMarschallin · 02/10/2019 15:08

Ah! Just picked up today's papers and in the Times today is a quite from the front page:

"The Duke of Sussex issued the statement - which he is understood to have written personally without the help of any of his staff...".

I wonder if "his staff" are trying to distance themselves from this?

Pitterpatterpettysteps · 02/10/2019 15:21

I wonder if "his staff" are trying to distance themselves from this?

I rather get that impression!

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 02/10/2019 15:26

"The Duke of Sussex issued the statement - which he is understood to have written personally without the help of any of his staff...".

Which confirms my point that they have a habit of doing things off the bat without seeking advice or listening to said advice when proffered.

ChicCroissant · 02/10/2019 15:49

Posing outside the Portland isn't standard royal behaviour. Only Kate and Diana ever did it.

Rubbish! What about Princess Anne, Sarah Ferguson, Sophie Wessex - they definitely did too, at various hospitals!

Yes, Harry's staff are probably fed up of being blamed for this kind of PR disaster and seem to be distancing themselves as much as possible. Piers Morgan has just published an article on the DM online and I hate to say that he has said pretty much the same as I did on the other thread about this. It's a bad day when I agree with Piers Sad

QualCheckBot · 02/10/2019 15:52

I'm still surprised by the timing of Harry's statement - why now, just after their fantastically successful tour? Unfortunately it means the legal action is now all that everyone is talking about. It has overshadowed all their brilliant, positive work somewhat.

I guess they have a team which works together on these things, and it was pre-planned, so they could come back and all the initial hoo-haa would be over, and they could bask in the good publicity from their tour?

BertrandRussell · 02/10/2019 15:55

So hang on- one of meghan’s ^breaches of protocol” was not wanting to pose for photographers hours post partum? I seem to remember that Mumsnet was up in arms about Kate doing to with hers- about how unfair and unreasonable it was and how she should be allowed to go quietly home. How come it’s different for Meghan- particularly as Harry gave an interview about it the same day And they both appeared in public 3 days later? Not to mention releasing that historic photograph with Her Maj and Philip and Doria.

Dongdingdong · 02/10/2019 16:03

Personally I would never expect Meghan (or any other royal for that matter) to pose on the hospital steps just after giving birth. It's a brutal tradition IMO!

NoTheresa · 02/10/2019 16:08

Prince Harry May just have shot himself in the foot, with this latest pity fest about the way the tabloid press are - allegedly - treating his wife. How stupid can he be given that their African tour was generally well received?

As for the comparisons with his mother, they do not bear scrutiny. Princess Diana had iconic status.

NoTheresa · 02/10/2019 16:09

may just have