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Meghan Markle taking Mail On Sunday to Court *MNHQ tweaked title for accuracy*

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TheMustressMhor · 01/10/2019 23:20

And about time, too. They never stop castigating her.

Prince Harry has said that he's worried that she'll end up being the same kind of victim that his mother was with regard to the Press.

I hope she wins her case.

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Idontwanttotalk · 02/10/2019 10:12

I think the people who vilify MM and other members of the royal family aren't journalists but are members of the public. (Except Piers Morgan who I understand really doesn't like MM). People on these and other forums vilify her without knowing her.

I think people are perfectly justified in commenting on the spend on Frogmore House from the public purse and Harry & Meghan taking private flights whilst lecturing about climate change.

They are getting a lot of good publicity for their tour of South Africa.

If anyone in the press is vilifying them rather than just reporting news about them then we should call out the individuals doing it. Maybe I don't read enough newspapers but I haven't seen 'bullying' or racism by journalists.

As to the PP who says it is saying she is not royal to refer to her as Meghan Markle, I don't agree. Sarah Ferguson was referred to as Fergie even when married to Prince Andrew. Kate was often still referred to as Kate Middleton after her marriage. I think you are being over-sensitive to see it as a slight.

AlexaAmbidextra · 02/10/2019 10:15

Diana was forced to rely on someone else's driver and security, with the driver unbeknownst to her turning out not to be up to the job, BECAUSE she was continually harassed by paparazzi.

No she wasn’t. She could have maintained her royal security detail but chose to dispense with it as a two finger salute to the royal family.

Span1elsRock · 02/10/2019 10:15

I think the RF will change enormously after HM The Queen.

William and Harry have nothing but contempt for the media and the public.

And it shows.

However the media needs to be held accountable too.

4TeensAndABaby · 02/10/2019 10:17

As someone who has successfully sued the Daily Fail (and it's counterparts who copied their inaccurate story), I am fully on Meghan's side.

Unfortunately the papers don't care about being sued. My lawyer told me that they almost expect it with some things, and the extra sales they make due to the exclusive story more than cover the costs incurred if people decide to sue. They also assume that not many people will take them on.

It's wrong on so many levels, and all journalists need to be held accountable for what they write.

Jillyhilly · 02/10/2019 10:18

LilianGish makes some excellent points.

On a personal level I can fully understand the pain that the coverage has caused them, whether or not they have courted coverage in an unwise manner. I can only imagine the awful memories and pain it must bring back for Harry.

But I also can’t see what possible good can come of this lawsuit and I agree with those who think they are not being well advised. He has now made certain allegations - specifically that the letter was published in an “intentionally destructive manner” and that part sounds of it were edited and omitted. Presumably this will now have to be proved? How do you do that, without revealing even more personal and sensitive personal information?

I truly hope that they don’t actually get to court with this - I can’t see how that wouldn’t be anything other than destructive and embarrassing for them. The interest in the case and the coverage alone - let alone the stress of the case itself - will be unbelievably intense and (potentially) extremely negative.

Winterlife · 02/10/2019 10:19

@BenWillbondsPants I know people in the entertainment world in L.A. I heard this from them years before MM met Harry. Her father, I’ve been told, was excellent to work with.

EntropyRising · 02/10/2019 10:20

I would take Piers Morgan with a grain of salt. His profile has been raised considerably by his one-sided spat with MM.

I agree broadly with idontwantotalk that there's legitimate public discourse to be had over not just the Sussexes but the ruling class in general and their 'green' hypocrisy.

escapade1234 · 02/10/2019 10:21

Cry me a river. I can’t stand them.

TrappedInThatBrightMoment · 02/10/2019 10:21

I have to wonder if Megan and Harry will see this is a game they cannot win, and do a Wallis & Edward and make a hole and hide in it. No public appearances and minimal visibility. Of course the papers will rage against the mean royals depriving charity’s and the public, but this is a single story that even they cannot run over and over

Tonnerre · 02/10/2019 10:21

It sounds to me as if they've been quite clever in their choice of what to sue on. A breach of copyright claim is something that is very easy to prove and attempts by the Mail to put Thomas Markle into the witness box are likely to be firmly trodden on as his evidence would be irrelevant to that issue.

Paintedmaypole · 02/10/2019 10:22

Having contempt for the media and having contempt for the public are two different things. What is the evidence that William and Harry have contempt for the public? Harry seems to have a lot of respect for some sections of the public e.g. those who have served in the forces.

Winterlife · 02/10/2019 10:22

Piers Morgan had a high profile before MM, high enough that he was offered Larry King’s timeslot on CNN. That’s how I know of him.

BenWillbondsPants · 02/10/2019 10:22

@Winterlife Seems very odd that people would be talking about MM and her friendships years before she met Harry. She wasn't exactly a huge star in the US never mind over here.

SapatSea · 02/10/2019 10:26

But who owned the letter? If her father as receiver (rather than MM as the writer)did and he sold it to the DM then how can the Sussexes complain? Her father did a terrible thing selling the letter but it is what MM wrote so isn't libellous.

The whole RF are parasites IMHO, they cost a fortune in security costs on top of the famous £1 per person in the country oft used justification.
Well past time they were ousted they have no place in a modern society. Weare trying to teach our DC that the UK is a meriticracry, what a larf!

SapatSea · 02/10/2019 10:26

*meritocracy

Rainbunny · 02/10/2019 10:26

She is suing over the misuse of private information, infringement of copyright and breach of General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR). Basically as the author of the letter she retained copyright ownership even after the letter became the possession of another person (her dad).

It's a pretty narrow legal course to pursue but realistically the only legal argument she can win against the papers, bullying and an anti-Meghan agenda are not actionable unless they actually libel her.

I'm not sure how much she will gain from winning this, the papers will not stop and may even be more aggressive in mean coverage. Perhaps she is sending a message to those she was once close to not to share her private matters.

Winterlife · 02/10/2019 10:27

It was around the time she got her Reitman’s deal. I didn’t know who she was, as I never watched Suits, so I asked about her. I never heard one good thing about her, which is unusual. Those people also knew her father and said very good things about him, in general.

EntropyRising · 02/10/2019 10:27

But who owned the letter? If her father as receiver (rather than MM as the writer)did and he sold it to the DM then how can the Sussexes complain? Her father did a terrible thing selling the letter but it is what MM wrote so isn't libellous.

People on this thread seem to suggest that the writer owns it, perhaps they say this with authority.

EntropyRising · 02/10/2019 10:31

Piers Morgan had a high profile before MM, high enough that he was offered Larry King’s timeslot on CNN. That’s how I know of him.

Sure, he's been in news orbit for a while. Larry King is famous, sure, but Morgan has sort of diversified and expanded his base because of his association with MM.

Of course we're all free to judge his credibility and if you believe him fine, I tend to think there's a kernel of truth that he's wildly exaggerated.

Mollymoo01 · 02/10/2019 10:32

Harry seems to have a lot of respect for some sections of the public e.g. those who have served in the forces.

Well I think that depends on what colour, religion and creed those ‘respected’ sections of public are seeing as when he was working within the forces he called his ‘friends’ (fellow serving officers) pai’s and rgheads.

BertrandRussell · 02/10/2019 10:32

It's not the 16th Century. You can't get done for treason because you used their name!”

I agree. But one of the many completely bonkers things Meghan got castigated for was wishing George Cambridge Happy birthday on Instagram without using his title!

escapade1234 · 02/10/2019 10:34

She seems tough as nails. I don’t she’s half as upset as Harry wants you think. More likely he’s affronted the nation hasn’t taken her to their hearts the way they did his mother. He thought he was the untouchable prince whom everyone adored and that his wife would receive the same love. He comes across as an absolute spoiled, immature, whinging brat.

merrygoround51 · 02/10/2019 10:34

Throwing Diana into the mix just muddies the water. Her attitude towards the press was so confused, courting their attention one minute and crying about the attention the next. There is no doubt that she was hounded but she played a dangerous game and had she opted for a genuinely more low key life , they would have eventually backed off.

Meghan and Harry are equally playing a dangerous game, the climate change lectures etc.....the belief that their lectures should some how be listened to whilst they should be personally let be.
Eh, you are celebrities who court attention (editing Vogue!) so you need to decide which side you are on.

If I was them I would spend a couple of years doing a Princess Anne - low key worthy events - and then I would get more involved in my more woke causes.

escapade1234 · 02/10/2019 10:34

Also, come on, Kate is hardly referred to as anything but KATE MIDDLETON by pretty much everyone bar newsreaders!!

escapade1234 · 02/10/2019 10:37

They want the attention, they just want it entirely on their terms and their heads are filled with so much pomposity by the people around them that they feel they have the right to control the narrative in every situation. Harry needs to be warned that the royal circus may not survive long after his grandmother and they are all treading on very thin ice with regards to the public’s tolerance of their unearned wealth and privilege.

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