Meghan Markle taking Mail On Sunday to Court *MNHQ tweaked title for accuracy*

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And about time, too. They never stop castigating her.

Prince Harry has said that he's worried that she'll end up being the same kind of victim that his mother was with regard to the Press.

I hope she wins her case.

There is no rule that they need to give whatever information the public want in exchange for their status as royals. The fact that anyone thinks there is such a rule is baffling.

Don’t forget the rule that if you invite the press in once, you are fair game for them to do whatever they want to get pictures of you most private moments, and, apparently, to be chased in a way that endangers your life.

can’t rewrite history

It is rewriting history to ignore the fact that Diana was hounded by the press right from the very start. In ways that was a massive change from how the Royals were treated previously. Blaming her for that change is abhorrent. Nobody deserves what she did.

For me this story has one key element, Harry’s words about trying to protect his wife in a way he couldn’t protect his mother. She was blamed for courting the media, but Meghan is being told if she’d only agreed to pictures, it wouldn’t be happening. It doesn’t matter what they do, the media will hound her if they think it sells papers.

how her father wanting the best chances for her invested all of his life savings and winnings on putting Meghan through private school. Whatever Doria was up to for those years is usually buried, but that will have to come out which isn't fair on her. And it will be hard in the eyes of the public to justify shunning a father who provided a home and sacrificed so much for Meghan during those years just because she married someone "posh" and is in the public eye

You are kidding. Meghan has to be so extra grateful to her father for just doing what any parent should do and be a parent? She has to appreciate her upbringing so much that she forgives him for constantly running to the press?

Please, post this scenario under your own user name and see what responses you get. Cos it would not be how you’re judging her.

You are kidding. Meghan has to be so extra grateful to her father for just doing what any parent should do and be a parent? She has to appreciate her upbringing so much that she forgives him for constantly running to the press?

No she doesn’t, but she doesn’t get to lie and say she worked her way through College which if you believe her father is in fact a lie.

I feel conflicted on this. Thomas Markle did a shameful thing in releasing that letter, insane to imagine that he would ever be able to repair the damage done. He is a hurt man lashing out, but it was a terrible course of action.
However, you live by the sword , you die by the sword, and the D of S is very happy to use the media to get good publicity, as was Princess Diana. I think probably the only dignified stance is to not engage at all.

It's not about how I'm judging her but that is how it would come across to a jury in court Shirley. He will look like a father who made great sacrifices for the poor little girl abandoned by her mother. It's fine saying he did what any parent should do but Doria didn't do her bit and he stepped up. Men get a million more times credit for doing what is an every day thing for too many women. No it's not fair but that's how it will play in court and that's why it won't go there. Women and men as parents are judged very differently.

It wouldn't have killed them to release a few baby pics or tell the public who his godparents are, instead of all the coy 'here's a picture of his foot' bollocks.

But why would they? When literally everything they do is criticised they would have had:

• Meghan is loving the attention
• baby Archie looks like he isn’t theirs / too big / too small / too ugly (all delightful comments from MN)
• releasing the names of godparents - and then a good old look in to their backgrounds and probably some gross headline with racist / classist overtones as per all the other coverage

Meghan was criticised as attention seeking for NOT having photos on the steps of the hospital after Archie was born. How can you be attention seeking for not having photos?!

If you want to be a frontline royal then you need to accept the fallout, criticisms etc

But not outright lies, stalking and racism.

It's not about how I'm judging her but that is how it would come across to a jury in court

It won't be a jury trial.

which if you believe her father is in fact a lie.

To be honest, if her father announced that the sun rose in the East and set in the West I'd feel the need to fact-check it.

It is rare but defamation claims can still be made in front of a jury. The Mail will milk this for everything it's worth so they'll push for it. Also, there will be a trial by the public jury. This will not end well.

@EntropyRising
I don't think they 'fell' for it, they must have considered this possibility as well.

Did you miss the sarcasm?

But not outright lies, stalking and racism.

Has the press lied about her, or stalked her?

Racism is entirely subjective and they can't be sued for giving her a harder time that Kate, who didn't have it very easy either (Waity Katy, Wisteria Sisters etc).

Has the press lied about her, or stalked her?

I don’t think it’s rational to believe that they didn’t think that letter would end up in the press.

I’m sure they are really great people, but I think it’s best if we didn’t have a royal family anymore. They seem to cause more trouble than they are worth.

I'd rather have the royal family than the people who use the DM comments section.

I don’t particularly like Piers Morgan, but I don’t think it’s because MM didn’t want to be friends with him that he’s written about her. It’s because she used, them ghosted him.

You're believing his version of events. Piers Morgan - a man with, at best, questionable morals. If she did 'ghost' him, maybe she just realised what he is. He won't stop going on and on about her, it's very bizarre.

On this particular matter, NBU at all. But their broader approach to the press (and public) is working against them imo.

Racism is entirely subjective

What? It's really not.

The timing of this seems somewhat odd - at the end of a tour. It's a shame as it will naturally overshadow reporting on some very worthwhile causes.

I don't think a statement like that was necessary - absolutely fine to have these sentiments but share them privately. It's an odd situatuin where the public are repeatedly told that they must be mindful of the privacy of Harry and meghan (not permitted to know the godparents etc) but then are exposed to highly emotive statements which really do amount to extreme oversharing. It creates confusion and a blurring of boundaries. I think there's a real need here for some very substantive and tactical PR advice regarding their ongoing relationship with the press. Some constitutional advice which also focuses on H and M's duties as opposed to move the focus away from only their rights wouldn't go amiss either as they give the appearance of not understanding how they coexist

I guess I could have better said, the common view that MM is hounded out of racism is entirely subjective.

@BenWiilBondPants MM has a long history of using and discarding people, long before she met Harry. That’s why I believe Piers Morgan.

Harry's comparisons of Meghan with Diana just do not stand up. Diana was a 19-year-old ingenue when she married Charles - she may have gone on to become the most photographed woman in the world, but at the time of her marriage she very much seemed like a lamb to the slaughter, not much more than a child. Compare this to Meghan who was in her 30s, already had a failed marriage behind her and was a minor celebrity in her own right. I have no idea what Meghan's argument with her father is, but when Harry talks about what happened to his own mother he conveniently leaves out his own father's role in her downfall. He has (quite rightly in my opinion) managed to patch things up with Charles, to the extent that it was Charles who walked Meghan down the aisle. You'd think Meghan could have at least introduced Harry to her Dad in private just once and that Harry might have encouraged this to shut the man up and stop the press from digging. Meghan doesn't want any of her embarrassing family impinging on her carefully curated public image - I think she would be better advised to own them and then set herself apart from them, but I get the impression she doesn't listen to any advice and that the oft-quoted "What Meghan wants Meghan gets" was a statement of fact rather than tongue-in-cheek quip.

Going to court on this type of matter is usually a big mistake (as many since Oscar Wilde have discovered) DoS will lose far more privacy as a result of these proceedings than ever the Mail could arrange.
It would surely be the usual way of resolving such a matter for the Mail and other press to be offered a decent set of photos of Archie - which would not breach an sort of privacy - in exchange for a medium weight apology. If Meghan is so woke and such a great feminist why is it her husband who is making the statement about this issue?
My main concern with the D&DoS is their habit of lecturing us all about the environment etc. and not following sensible guidelines themselves. Apparently a fleet of range rovers were shipped to South Africa for their use when suitable hire vehicles were available there.Meghan made a point of dressing down too meet the public but for the wedding she attended before the tour her dress cost £9,000, I think - how can they expect to be taken seriously when this sort of thing is still going on. If they were really lovely and genuine they would not need a PR company to promote this. They really should sit down with Princess Anne for some lessons in how to be popular.

As LaMarschallin said, my understanding was that Diana refused to have the Royal Protection Officers. They were not withdrawn from her, quite the opposite - they spent a lot of time trying to convince her not to dump them, and continued to do so afterwards.

I think the legal case (and Harry's letter tbh) is a big mistake. She is happy for her friends to speak about her on TV programmes in the States (hosted by a friend that was at her baby shower). You are never going to have that level of control over what people write about you in the press.

@BenWiilBondPants MM has a long history of using and discarding people, long before she met Harry. That’s why I believe Piers Morgan.

@Winterlife How do you know this? This sounds a bit nippy and I genuinely don't mean it to, but all I 'know' about MM is what I've read or heard from the media. I don't know her personally or any of these people who have gone to the press with stories about her IKYWIM?

And to be honest I wouldn't believe Piers Morgan if he told me the sky was blue.