I’m so fed up with all this vegan wankery

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To all you actual vegans, amazing, I wish you a long and happy life.

I am just so fed up with veganism taking over the world, when I have yet to come across an actual one. *edited to say that some places in the world don’t have a choice

Restaurants falling over themselves with vegan menus offering fake meat and plastic cheese.

Veganuary - people just going to the supermarket and buying fake meat, rather than actually trying to eat differently.

People eating ‘vegan food’. Just eat an apple, or a carrot with houmous or any other naturally occurring food that an animal hasn’t produced. It’s not hard.

And I can’t even begin with all the plant based twattery. Many people have been quietly eating less or no meat, fish, eggs & dairy for many years and have had no need to pontificate about it.

I know I am probably being unreasonable but I just need to say it.

Yes excellent point @FamilyOfAliens. Life long veggie here, fed up of cheese free, fun free options we get nowadays!

you cannot get the same depth of flavour with plant based food. You can’t really argue with that I’m afraid. I think that probably is the case for some people - good recipes and good cooking, deliver good results. We eat vegan food 3 times a week and we eat good tasty food.

I have a friend who ‘tries to be vegan’ every other month. It’s annoying and rude to those who actually take it seriously. So bloody irritating!

Maybe the fact that she keeps getting up, dusting herself off and throwing herself back in the saddle after every failed attempt suggests she is taking it seriously?

I'll be the first to admit there are a lot of vegan wankers out there, and unfortunately they seem to be the loudest. Meat eating wankers seem to be quite loud too!

soggypizza I mostly eat ‘vegan’ food (or just food in my opinion) and I love it but you cannot get the same depth of flavour...

@MyGhastIsFlabbered I believe homo sapiens is meant to eat meat.

I also think you ought to bear in mind that millions of animals- not ones we eat now- are killed by growing crops. You want to differentiate between cows, sheep and rabbits or mice? So why is that? How many do you think are killed by harvesting your vegetables? or insects so that fruit and veggies grow? I have no sentimentality about animals or killing them for food. It's a modern luxury being able to do this only possible because of air- miled food which is destroying the planet.

If you could only eat what you grew yourself, you might have a point but you can't. You could not survive without food from other countries.

I am really confused about vegan food supposedly being tasteless because there is a massive array of Indian food that is vegan and vegetarian. I think a lot of people just don’t eat anything non standard and get angry that other people do.

Vegan food in restaurants has been awesome for my kidsveing dairy and egg free

JinglingHellsBells vegans don’t give a shit about mice, rabbits or insects...

@Wiltshirelass2019 I'd be very interested in seeing your statistics on that. It's not a cop out at all and I'm actually pretty pissed off at that.

Why are you so apparently angry at vegans? I've not tried to persuade anyone to be vegan, not made out I'm morally superior yet you seem to be taking delight in pouncing on all my posts and pointing out that I'm some sort of crap baking hypocrite-I don't get it? Other than making a different lifestyle choice to you I don't see what I've done that's so offensive.

Agreed!
I work in a restaurant and have lost count of the amount of people who come in, then announce loudly “I’m vegan - what can I eat??”
Excuse me? You are following an eating
lifestyle of your own choice... but you don’t know what you can eat?? But I am??😲
Like previous posters, genuine vegans don’t need to announce themselves, they just adapt what’s on the menu and get on with it!!

It's also a modern luxury to eat as much meat as we do, go to restaurants, use the Internet, drive cars, live in homes bigger than our needs, buy cheap and designer clothing etc.

Well I'm delighted that more and more places are catering for vegans. DD (13) has recently developed a dairy allergy which is pretty severe and so has become a meat eating vegan!
It's great to be able to still eat out although cross contamination is still a worry.

I notice how as always the vegan haters are proving themselves to be far more smug, self righteous and insufferable than your average vegan.

Please, anyone wir6h allergies...
Still alert the staff to it even if menu says vegan

Loving Veganism. Especially the puds for my dairy-free child. This year is the first time he's been in restaurants and had lovely puds.

As for the icecream on holidays and days to the seaside.... He's had choice this year!!! Yeahhhhhhhhhh more please

Vegan food?

No, thank you, I've got some milk roll in t'case that'll do me.

Urgh my bloody sister pulls this shit. I made our dad's birthday cake vegan so she could have some (rather than buying one in) and she started guzzling the non-vegan garlic bread.

She was one of those vegetarians who eat bacon sandwiches when no one is looking, so I shouldn't be surprised.

Bloody good cake, mind.

Vegan and Flexitarian Diets Are* Here to Stay,Vegan and flexitarian diets are not a passing trend. The meat and dairy industries need to watch out, as plant-based eating is here to stay*.
More people than EVER are turning to Vegan or Vegetarian

Have you no thought for the terrible suffering of the animals.

There is also evidence that plants feel pain just as animals do.

Citation required.

BeingChampion growing more plants is far better for biodiversity than farming cattle, which on average is more harmful than using fuel to transport goods, no matter how far those goods travelled. Oats replacing soya is much, much better for the environment and if more people gave up meat and dairy we could slow down climate change. I'm all for that.

Fromage the issue is that most products were tested on animals, hence now they are being labelled as vegan (the BUAV jumping bunny or official vegan sign is essential) if they are no longer tested.

And yes, I am vegan and have been for a very long time and was veggie since a toddler.

Don't understand people who get uppity about other people caring for the planet and who want to see an end to animal suffering. Leave us to get on with saving the planet and ending animal suffering while you suck lemons at the idea of fake meat. Really.

@Wiltshirelass2019 I really don't know what you mean about the depth of flavour - some dishes need depth others don't. I made a spanish omelette today - plenty of flavour - nothing missing. Salads can be made without meat - using capers, olives, fried onions etc as high notes. Gazpacho soup with garlic croutons - don't need anything. Lovely Indian curries, Thai curries...I honestly see the compulsion to include meat on a plate a bit of a drag - I find meat in a chilli, lasagne and a bolognaise very claggy and unpleasant. I am not squeamish I'll eat raw meat or fish and offal etc but I really don't feel it is necessary in every meal because of depth of flavour.

@JinglingHellsBells Homo sapiens also started out living in caves and eating only raw food...are you going to follow a Palaeolithic diet?

Like I said, it's about doing what you can. If I even for one second believed that only 'vegan' agriculture caused harm to wildlife and that meat and dairy farming caused no harm to any living being other than the meat provider I might rethink, but I'm very sceptical on that.

Sadly I have not mastered the art of living on sunlight alone...and my gardening skills leave a lot to be desired, so I'm doing the best I can. I'm not claiming to be saving the planet or preventing all animals from dying, but what I'm doing is good enough for me and I don't need to justify myself to anyone.

Like previous posters, genuine vegans don’t need to announce themselves, they just adapt what’s on the menu and get on with it!!

That doesn’t always work though. Sometimes it isn’t clear what’s been cooked in butter, or if something contains egg. It looked like there was absolutely nothing I could eat on the menu at the restaurant I went to for Sunday lunch. “Announcing” I was vegan was the easiest way to find out what was suitable.

I'm really annoyed by people announcing what they eat! Says the person who's come on a national forum to announce what they eat