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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To not want to see partners son ever again

104 replies

IJustLovePirates · 28/09/2019 15:00

Hello. I’m a long time lurker and have never had kids of my own, so feel a bit guilty for being here as not actually a parent. Had a “non=viable”;pregnancy once. My partner has three adult children. I get on well with two of them. The third, an adult son, has caused us various problems over the years with his alcoholism and drug abuse.
My partner and his ex wife have done a lot of enabling over the years, in giving him money when he’d just spent his dole money on beer and marijuana. He has come to stay with us occasionally when he’s been homeless, tho in some cases the homelessness has been voluntary. He has had drunken psychotic episodes, shouting and screaming

Fast forward several years of this, about five years ago son was having a spectacularly bad ‘episode’ He sent abusive text messages basically calling me a slut, and sending veiled death threats.

Now, five years later, he has sent partner a letter which in some way shows some insight into his bi polar disorder. So partner is saying that maybe son could come and visit?

It was hell when he was here. From what my partner has said I think he’s an ‘Incel’ = one of these angry young men who thin that they should have sex on demand. The way he looks at me makes my flight esh crawl and I’m in my 50s.
When there is a rape or sexual assault in hi city, I always read the description. He has physically assaulted both of his sisters, and his birth mother, and sent previous step mom a death threat,

So my AIBU is can i just say “No. I do not want this sociopath to visit. He’s called me a slut and threatened to kill me and has a history of violence against women”

Which is what I’ve basically said to OH, But OH is saying that maybe he’s changed.

OP posts:
Pinkarsedfly · 28/09/2019 15:02

You have every right to feel safe in your own home. You are definitely not being unreasonable.

KatnissMellark · 28/09/2019 15:04

YANBU

LolaSmiles · 28/09/2019 15:05

I'd be saying to OH "I respect you seeking a relationship with your son, but it needs to be independent of me and out house. I won't be placed in a situation where I feel unsafe or uncomfortable in my own house. If you wish to meet then I support you, but it needs to be away from our house and we need a clear understanding that joint funds and assets will not be used to enable his behaviour".

CuriousaboutSamphire · 28/09/2019 15:05

MAYBE? He MAY have changed?

Did you ask OP what he would do if he had not? Or why he wants you to place yourself at risk, in your own home?

His DS has threatened you... Why is he not taking that seriously?

I get that this is his DS and he wants to help him... but at what cost? What has to happen before he sees the issues clearly?

Ninkaninus · 28/09/2019 15:06

No need to feel guilty for being on here. There are plenty of people on this forum who don’t have children, and lots of men too (who obviously aren’t mums).

No, YADefinitelyNBU. He won’t have changed. And more importantly, even if he has gained some level of self-awareness, your OH can meet him elsewhere and absolutely should not expect you to be willing to potentially put yourself in harm’s way, nor to associate with someone who makes your skin crawl.

Boxerbinky · 28/09/2019 15:08

@LolaSmiles has it right, this is the way I would handle it. X

TheMustressMhor · 28/09/2019 15:08

I don't think your DH is really facing up to the reality of this - nor is he taking your worries seriously enough.

You do have a right to feel safe at home. Everywhere, in fact. But you can really only control being safe in your own, actual home.

I'm sorry you're in this very difficult situation, OP.

HermioneWeasley · 28/09/2019 15:08

If he’s on a medication regime for bipolar disorder then I think it’s ok for your husband to start contact away from the home.

MulticolourMophead · 28/09/2019 15:13

YANBU.

Your OH has to see him away from the house and you. No compromise.

And even if he's on medication, his attitudes won't have changed, this is who he is, someone who hates women. And you have every right to feel safe.

Don't let your OH try to talk you round.

MulticolourMophead · 28/09/2019 15:15

Sorry, that should read: "And you have every right to want to feel safe and to be safe.

SilentNightTime · 28/09/2019 15:18

Please don't let him into your home. What Lola said. Stay safe Flowers

SmudgeButt · 28/09/2019 15:19

I wouldn't want him in the house at all and DH needs to know that. Should DH insist then you must insist that you are never left alone in a room with son. Words can be spoken in an instant if DH is out of the room and physical assault doesn't take much longer.

IJustLovePirates · 28/09/2019 15:21

Thank you everyone got your replies. I could cry. The reason I thought I’d ask on here is that my partner tells me that because I’m not a parent that I “don’t know what it’s like” and he thinks I should give his son another chance.

From what I’ve seen he has physically attacked his sisters, his mother, and sent abusive letter to ex step mother\Ohs ex wife. And has said stuff about me on FB about how I’m stopping him living with his father.

OP posts:
Purpleartichoke · 28/09/2019 15:24

He may have changed. if He has actually gotten medical treatment and/or become sober, it could make a huge difference.

I would ask your DH to meet with him out of your house. If

Tistheseason17 · 28/09/2019 15:26

I agree with previous poster that if he is on meds then meeting him away from the home on many occasions to rebuild trust is where you start.

I would not have in my home unless I was happy irrespective of partner's thoughts - YOU need to feel safe.

YDraig · 28/09/2019 15:26

Tell him to meet him in a cage of something you have every right to not want him in your home yanbu

MovinOnUp · 28/09/2019 15:26

No, That's bullshit! You do not have to have this person in your home.

For whatever it's worth, If my birth son had behaved like that towards me and others in the family, He wouldn't be crossing the door.

YDraig · 28/09/2019 15:26

In a CAFE!!! God. Sorry, I’m not with it today

GettingABitDesperateNow · 28/09/2019 15:27

Maybe hes changed? But presumably the flip side is maybe he hasn't and he can kill you?

Absolutely no chance. His own mother and sisters presumably dont want him to live with them so being directly related is irrelevant.

That's a low blow for your husband to say that. You're not stopping him having a relationship you just dont want a violent man in your house

SchadenfreudePersonified · 28/09/2019 15:28

Good advice from Lolasmiles.

It's your partner's child - but not your responsibility. You need to keep yourself (and any friends and neighbours, for that matter, safe.)

Your DP can give his child as many "other chances" as he wants, but not at the expense f your peace of mind and physical safety.

TBH - if I were in this situation and my DP didn't respect my wishes under these circumstances, I'd really think about whether to continue the relationship.

He's an independent adult - he doesn't need to "live with his father".

INeedAFlerken · 28/09/2019 15:30

YANBU.

Your partner can give his son another chance if he wants to. But he can't do it in a way that makes you feel unsafe or uncomfortable. So he'll have to do it somewhere that is not your home.

That is not unreasonable.

You can also tell him you won't be able to be the one who 'listens' if/when it all goes horribly wrong again. You have been threatened and abused by the man. Yes, man. And you have no obligation to allow him into your life ever again if you don't want to, even via discussion.

Suebnm · 28/09/2019 15:31

Reading this I am wondering why your boyfriend wants him in the house with you and to put you at real and credible risk. Do you know why? Would your boyfriend be there the whole time his son is there? How many chances does your boyfriend think you should give his son?

You have been put in such a difficult and very unfair position.

BenWillbondsPants · 28/09/2019 15:37

YANBU at all. Your DH should not put you in this situation, ever. He can see his son, you don't have to.

category12 · 28/09/2019 15:39

Your partner needs to conduct his relationship with his son away from your shared home.

Span1elsRock · 28/09/2019 15:41

It's great that his father wants a relationship with him, but you have the absolute right to say No to it being in your home.

I'm slightly Confused that your DP doesn't feel the need to protect you. If and only if his son has changed, then you can take steps forwards together on your terms.

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