To find the unmummsy mum really dreadful

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I know she has a lot of fans, and some parts of her first book were funny. Although the second book was dire, why would she need to tell everyone when she has sex with her husband as if it’s once in a year event.

I find her really cringe worthy and I don’t understand the hype. She thinks she’s really funny when she’s not, she’s not unmummsy, she seems like a great mum with her kids but makes out she is rubbish all the time. Why?

I don’t understand how everyone think she’s the funniest thing ever.

Yanbu to have an opinion, i don't agree with it though. Think she's lovely and pretty funny.

I follow her on FB so see occasional photos pop up of her kids, haven't read her books. I don't follow any other "mum bloggers" but found her writing style really relatable and, yes, funny.

This thread is horrible and disgusting. I love the unmumsy mum. She's bloody fabulous!

I think it's fine to discuss the content of her books or insta but not her as a person. Fine, her books might not be everyone's cup of tea but as another said, she's just a mum trying to make a living and she's a real person. She's also very local to me and comes across in person as she does on insta as a genuine, warm, normal human.

ponzi
Isn't that the grey area though with these sorts of writers/bloggers/instamums?
Almost all of what they do is selling themselves? They've curated an image of themselves and a version of their life that sells and then make money from it.

I think it's a bit disingenuous for some on here to claim having a view on these very commercialised mummy brands is the same as bitching about an average mum who's just going through life.

For what it's worth, the sentiment behind showing different experiences of motherhood I quite like, but they've (general here) almost become caricatures of themselves where there's lots of mainly middle class mums joking about how children drive them to alcohol, oopsie I forgot the PE kit again and burnt tea, and it's time for prosecco. It's almost like they create some silly stereotype where women are just so daft and silly and a bit incompetent, isn't it so funny! No wonder we need gin.

The reality is everyone's doing their best, people occasionally forget about what's in the oven, most people have had the mad panic of "it's Roman day today" and thought 'shit I have nothing to make a Roman costume... Here throw a sheet on" etc. But they don't need to try and turn a fairly normal one off into some twee "silly quirky mummy" brand.

I hate these mummy bloggers who just go on about how awful it is having children and how hard they find it all.

Seriously, MN has lost the plot here.

This woman is a journalist/writer/comedian who does this for money. She's open to the exact same public criticism or reviewing as any other journalist, writer or comedian.

I have no idea why most people are getting their knickers in a twist when they wouldn't react in the same way (calling the OP bitchy) if someone started a thread about Polly Toynbee (let alone Katie Hopkins) or Jo Brand.

@SophieTurnersEyebrows Katie Hopkins is a real person too. So is every actor, musician, writer and comedian out there. Oh, and politicians too. That doesn't stop people criticising them or saying that they didn't like their latest work.

I like her. She is refreshing in a world of #ad. She doesn’t really do paid content and she is not hanging out in her giant grey house in some seaside town south of London showing off all her freebies. Parenting is hard and I am sure it’s even harder when you don’t have your mum to advise you.

I agree Sara.
When people choose to turn a carefully curated version of themselves and their life into a commercial product, it's not the same as commenting in someone who is going about their daily life.

Commenting on these influencer/mummy brands is no different to commenting on Love Island stars and their relationships, or the cast of Geordie Shore, or the kids on Teen Mom, and so on. People have chosen to sell off and craft a brand for themselves and I'm not sure why "celeb" mums should get a free pass to avoid reasonable critique when anyone else in the public eye expected to tolerate absolutely horrifying, unpleasant vitriol.

Agree with Lolasmiles. Back when I was a broke, working class single mother, any "forgot to get a costume, pass the wine" nonsense would have been seen as the first step on the road to a social services referral,what else would you expect etc etc. When a naice instamum does it, it's quirky and real.

It also encourages acceptance of adult ineptitude, all this adultier adult bollocks is about done in my view

I think she's fairly inoffensive. I like some of her blog posts, they're full of genuine humour, warmth and compassion. But sometimes I think she tries a little too hard to be witty and it falls flat for me.

But it's always really nice to see mum writers doing well for themselves. She's been savvy with turning blogging/writing into a career and more power to her for that.

Katie Hopkins is a real person too.

Yes and a person who makes vile and abusive comments. The unmumsy Mum has never done anything of the sort.

Isn't that the grey area though with these sorts of writers/bloggers/instamums

I don't think it's a grey area at all, but I think a lot of people on here say that it is to make themselves feel better about picking on strangers.

I find many instamums a little grating but not Sarah, I don't think she's got much of a curated image at all. It's just what you see is what you get.

Never heard of her before but... if you don't like her stuff just ignore her. It's not so terrible to find writing books/blogs a good way to bring in an income when you've got small kids. And making any actual money out of blogging/writing is hard work and needs a certain amount of luck as well as effort.

Katie Hopkins is a real person too. So is every actor, musician, writer and comedian out there. Oh, and politicians too.

When The unmumsy mum starts spouting racist bile like Katie Hopkins, or starts making horrendous dictatorial choices which will affect the country for generations to come like Boris Johnson, I'll happily join in the criticising.

What a stupid comparison.

What, so we should only critique Dickens' work and not the man himself? Or Mary Shelley or George Orwell? Of course who the person is, what the context they are writing in, and the culture around them are fundamental to understanding written work! This 'awww, she's a mum, don't be mean' when the mum is a 'professional mum' who writes about motherhood is just bizarre.

I'm not sure why people are getting all antsy on this thread about censorship. You're free to say whatever the fuck you want. And I'm free to say I don't agree with it.

Ponzischeme
So you think anyone who puts themselves in the public eye, sells their story and so on to make money should be immune from anyone commenting on what they've put in the public domain?
Serious question.

So no comments should be made towards Instagram content, reality TV stars, celebrities, authors, public figures, the royals or anyone else unless it's toral praise and adoration?

I can't stand really nasty vitriolic hate towards people (even Katie Hopkins who cannot stand), but I'll defend the right of people to comment on content people have put in the public eye.

I don't see how or why it should be fine for anyone (general mummy blogger types) to make money, sell book, get paid for podcasts, appearances on TV etc by selling a given image or themselves and then expect everyone to give them a free pass and not say "actualy I find the whole mummy needs wine" thing quite twee and patronising.

Commenting on these influencer/mummy brands is no different to commenting on Love Island stars and their relationships, or the cast of Geordie Shore, or the kids on Teen Mom, and so on. People have chosen to sell off and craft a brand for themselves and I'm not sure why "celeb" mums should get a free pass to avoid reasonable critique when anyone else in the public eye expected to tolerate absolutely horrifying, unpleasant vitriol.

You put it so much better than I did @LolaSmiles

The sanctifying of mothers still lives, apparently.

I'm laughing at the thought that criticising the unmummsy mum is the same as criticising our PM. fgs surely you can see the difference.

I haven't read the unmummsy mum but the fact is one para in your OP is a comment on the book. The other two are about her personally. That's never been MN's purpose.

Add to that, there are bloggers who have been subjected to stalking and harassment. For the past few months there's been a poster who name changes and then posts almost every week with unsubstantiated accusations against one of the mummy bloggers. At the same time, bloggers have been detailing stalking and harassment that has made them contact the police.

On that basis I think MN is right to be cautious when critical threads spring up.They don't want to be part of a toxic culture of bullying. If they judge it incorrectly sometimes, that's fine too. Your need to bitch isn't more important than others need to feel free from harassment.

LolaSmiles

People can say whatever they want. That's freedom of speech.

Personally, I find personal abuse unacceptable. Others don't.

if you don't like her stuff just ignore her.

I hate this lazy argument. "Don't like it just turn it off"

What's wrong with people having opinions on stuff?

The OP has been called out for creating a post with the sole intention of slagging someone off so is now trying to back track and say she's just criticising her published work and that she seems really nice.

At least be honest with yourself. You were being very mean spirited.

Yabu. I quite like her.