My DD's first boyfriend is transgender and I feel weird about it.

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I've always been a very liberal minded person. Supported gay rights all my life. My best friend and DN are gay. I support the rights of Trans people to live their life etc.

My dd15 has a nice group of friends (boys and girls). In that group is a Trans teen (Female to Male). He changed his name in Y8, He's totally accepted as Male at school. There are no issues. He looks completely Male and people who don't know him would never think that he'd been born female. He's a nice boy who is well liked. All good.

Except last night my DD told me she's going out with him. I've surprised myself that this has unnerved me.

My dd hasn't had a BF before. She's only ever snogged one boy before at a party. She says she's 100% straight. She says she fancies the cool older boys in Sixth Form. Has teenage celebrity crushes on boys like Tom Holland etc. So how does this work for her?

Last night I told her all was fine and just to be careful they didn't damage a friendship if they broke up etc, but I didn't make a big deal of it.

Would you find this weird if your dc said they were straight? Please be honest. I'm kind of hoping it fizzles out without any drama.

Many drugs stop perfectly functioning systems from working well in order to treat another condition.

What condition is being treated when puberty blockers are given to gender dysphoric children?

My DS body is perfectly healthy but his brain isn't. He has both epilepsy and ADHD both treated with drugs that have undergone rigorous RCTs.

@DecomposingComposers watchful waiting has an excellent success rate for treating the mental distress associated with gender dysphoria. 80% of children who want to be the opposite sex, if they do not socially transition, will resist.
And you can't talk to a four year old about "abstract children". You can only say no, you may have just told me that X now has a different hairstyle and so is an .... But X can never change from boy to girl/girl to boy.
You can add "and neither can you or any other child" but you cannot speak in generalities to small children. They need specifics to understand.

Bother autocorrect. 80% will desist.

So that means your body wasn't actually healthy beforehand....

It was actually. The drugs are to prevent me becoming unhealthy in the future.

What condition is being treated when puberty blockers are given to gender dysphoric children?

The mental health problems that are associated with gender dysphoria. You may have decided that they have no mental health problems but as with my disease who are you to decide how someone you don't know is effect?

The drugs are to prevent me becoming unhealthy in the future.

Right because you have condition or are predisposed genetically to a condition.

Do you have a donated organ?

Because medication in this case is to stop your body rejecting the organ.

The mental health problems that are associated with gender dysphoria. You may have decided that they have no mental health problems

Actually it wasn't us who decided this it was the world health organisation.
Gender disphoria isn't a mental illness.

The mental health problems that are associated with gender dysphoria.

Please link to the studies that prove that puberty blockers improve mental health in gender dysphoric children.

This is a sad documentary to watch - I've seen Rene Jax before, a fantastic person, who explains things so well. He talks about having made himself a 'social pariah', and unfortunately that's the truth of it. And he's somebody who actually 'passes' quite well, he just looks like a big self-confident woman.

Do you have a donated organ?

No. I'm not going to discuss what condition I have as my point is that the treatment of my condition is between me, doctors and the regulatory authorities rather than randoms on the internet that know little about how it likely to effect me personally. i.e. it is none of their business.

I love threads like these.

Please link to the studies that prove that puberty blockers improve mental health in gender dysphoric children.

I’ll add another question to the above:

Given that there are no studies that prove puberty-blockers improve the mental health of gender dysphoric patients, do you think the increasing number of doctors who are asking this usage of puberty-blockers to be investigated are all “transphobic”?

Please link to the studies that prove that puberty blockers improve mental health in gender dysphoric children.

Please link to studies that prove that the risks outweigh the benefits.

None of your business what it is, but it's real.

I don't need to tell you what it is as it makes no difference to my point that I don't expect randoms with no medical expertise and knowledge of how it could effect me to tell me what I should or shouldn't be doing and the same applies to people with gender dysphoria. Are you asking so that you can give your opinion? Why do you think it is your business ffs.

Please link to studies that prove that the risks outweigh the benefits.

Medical research isn’t really your strong point, is it? To get a medication approved for use you have to prove that it works first. Individual Risk:benefit analysis can begin after positive effects are demonstrated. You know, trials and stuff.

Any other person would have used the name of whatever you have as evidence, without saying they have it. people would have then released that yes with some illnesses you predict the treatment with a crystal ball while the patent as absolutely no physical signs.

Are you asking so that you can give your opinion? Why do you think it is your business ffs.

I didn't actually ask.
I said if you've had a donated organ you take medication to stop rejection.

You're hilarious, you are so wrapped up in your own narrative that you've actually got yourself thinking that people care about your mystery illness.

Nobody has asked what you have because... Nobody care what you say you have.

Captain - why should a poster have to disclose their medical details and/or history on a public forum?
It's nothing to do with you and that's the point being made.
You can bet even if the poster bit and fell for detailing they'd be told their condition was wrong or it be turned into some kind of gotcha....
Just no. Nowt to do with you.

Even now:

"oh okay"

STOP ASKING!

Nowt to do with you.

Too right it is!

Cross posted
I didn't actually ask
Yes you did. You were fishing for details and laughing when they weren't forthcoming.
Do you think people can't read?

Too right it is

You just said you weren't asking though. Make your bloody mind up lol.
Seriously, what the hell has someone's medical history on here got to do with you?!

Essentially, these medications are being used off-licence even though there’s no evidence they work.

They by definition render children in a suspended state of childhood while their peers mature physically and cognitively and they still do t seem to work.

Oh OK, just realised that can be read two ways - did you mean too right it is something to do with you, or too right that it's nothing to do with you?

Medical research isn’t really your strong point, is it? To get a medication approved for use you have to prove that it works first. Individual Risk:benefit analysis can begin after positive effects are demonstrated. You know, trials and stuff.

I'm not going to say what my job is but medical research is very much my strong point and for that reason I know that there are plenty of drugs on the market that have very little good evidence of effectiveness let alone "proof" that they work especially in children. I bet that you aren't campaigning to stop them being used.