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How would you feel if you received this email?

544 replies

SamCam349 · 20/09/2019 00:49

Is this (below) a nice email to receive? What would you think of the sender who wrote it??

‘I will reluctantly speak to you next Tuesday to attempt to address your discriminatory actions. As I mentioned last week, I, personally, do not consider you to be that important, and I would not be entertaining this call were your manager not also be participating.’

OP posts:
Itsallpetetong · 20/09/2019 16:51

If you do decide to provide more information, be careful what you say as this is a public forum. Your (ex-) colleague’s could be Reading it

^absolutely.

JoxerGoesToStuttgart · 20/09/2019 16:52

Agree with starting another thread.

WRT your home- does your mortgage company allow payment “holidays”? Some allow you to take one or two months off from paying it. Or they may allow you to change to an interest only mortgage for a period until you get a new job.

In the meantime apply for any and all jobs. Even if it’s minimum wage- just take it to keep your bills paid until you get something better paying.

SamCam349 · 20/09/2019 16:52

Life is so unfair. :(

I could go off on a rant on here about how depressed I am right now, but will save it for the husband when he get in. He has no idea what has happened...

OP posts:
bluebeck · 20/09/2019 16:57

If OP has been discriminated against in the legal context then it will be irrelevant how long she has been at her job.

However, as she doesn't appear to want to give any background it's all total conjecture and the thread is a waste of time really.

Jezebel101 · 20/09/2019 16:59

I don't know how anyone could think that mail was ambivalent in any way; it's clearly hostile.

The real issue is whether or not it's justifiably so.

RosesAndRaindrops · 20/09/2019 17:00

Are you actually going to tell us what happened so I can vote, or what as this thread makes zero sense with all the half drip feeds and tangents!

pelirocco123 · 20/09/2019 17:00

Even for less than 2 years employment I would have expected a disciplinary investigation first

AmIThough · 20/09/2019 17:03

@pelirocco123 we don't know what's led to this situation. There may well have been verbal and written warnings and all the processes followed to the letter.

Leakinglikeacolander · 20/09/2019 17:06

There may have been all kinds of things going on, but the OP appears not to be concerned with explanations as much as dramatic snippets.
I wouldn't hold your breath.

Lulualla · 20/09/2019 17:06

@SamCam349

Are you actually reading the questions being asked?
You don't have to explain, of course, but it might help you if you do explain the situation from start to finish.

picklemepopcorn · 20/09/2019 17:16

Gather your thoughts OP and explain the situation.

It sounds as though you were being forced into a meeting with someone, and you sent that email to point out that you'd attend even though you thought it unnecessary.

The context behind all that is really important.

Purpleneonpinkunicorns · 20/09/2019 17:17

I would have a talk with your Dh tonight and on Monday get a gp appointment for your depression also, just wondering OP do you normally send and speak to people like that? Or is there a huge backstory as to why you did?

MrsLinManuelMiranda · 20/09/2019 17:18

Your husband has no idea what has happened Neither do we !

HeadintheiClouds · 20/09/2019 17:21

Well obviously nobody is going to claim it’s nice, op, so that’s a little stupid. Whether it’s justified is something none of us could possibly tell you?
Do you know what you did to annoy this person, who seems to think very little of you?

HeadintheiClouds · 20/09/2019 17:24

Oh... That’ll teach me to rtft. That’s an amazingly shit communication to send to anybody. Really bad.

KTheGrey · 20/09/2019 17:24

Well if they were discriminating against you then surely you can sue. If they weren't, sending the email was a bit foolish.

I think they sound horrid and you will be better off with a new job. Flowers

Mollymoo01 · 20/09/2019 17:25

How can you say life is unfair when you wrote a clearly unprofessional and frankly very unpleasant email?

There must be a huge backstory to this, can you explain?
Someone might be able to help you or point you to what you could do next if you could give the context of what pushed you to send an email like that.
Did you send it to a member of your staff?
What had they done for you to feel they warranted that email?
Did you have any warnings prior to your work termination?
Had you been trained in how to correspond to your staff? Had you received proper training for your role? Had to had any management training at all?
Were you on an improvement plan at all?

What we are basically looking for was had you been trained correctly and had they offered you a chance to improve before sacking you?

IAmALazyArse · 20/09/2019 17:33

If someone send this to me I would ask manager to get rid of them too. Tbh I don't think I would hvae to.

You were not a manager, were you. You were on a same level as the person you sent it to, weren't you?
Because if it's the latter, email is super bitchy and I am sure it's safe to assume this was not first issue. If you were actually a manager and sent this to someone under you, I fully get the dismissal.

You can't just go and tell people at work how unimportant you think they are no matter what has gone on.

JoxerGoesToStuttgart · 20/09/2019 17:35

I don’t know if I’m barking up the wrong tree here or not but OP do you have any sort of diagnosis that would explain your difficulties in expressing yourself appropriately and understanding where you’ve gone wrong? You don’t/didn’t seem aware just how bad (professionally) that email was and you now seem to be thinking it is just life being unfair rather than a direct result of your own behaviour.

SeaSaltandLime · 20/09/2019 17:41

OP this isn't Facebook.

Either give the full story or don't bother writing.

The attention seeking is painful.

Tilltheendoftheline · 20/09/2019 17:42

To be honest if you think that was ok to send, then you really cant control your own emotions.

I think that, plus accusing someone of discrimination could be gross misconduct. Its could be viewed as bullying or targeting a colleague to bring them into disrepute.

That email probably will have justified the discrimination 'I did that because she is unprofessional not because she is a woman' (using woman as an example).

And OP has played into their hands.

Did them actually discriminate OP, or did you at least actually believe they have? Did you have any proof?

DrinkFeckArseGirls · 20/09/2019 17:45

Why don’t you post in Employment, op. Just the facts, with no theatrics and you might get advice how to proceed.

MeetMeInMontauk · 20/09/2019 17:48

Methinks OP has an intense case of victim complex. Their vagueness and lack of introspection mirrors exactly the behaviour of a couple of idiots that our workplace is currently trying to 'manage out'.

halloumi2019 · 20/09/2019 17:51

For future reference, if you’re dealing with conflict at work and management are asked to step in or are cc’d in emails or otherwise involved etc, that’s your cue to start behaving impeccably and not give anyone a chance to discredit you. Obviously that email was the exact opposite, pretty much what ‘not’ to do.

You literally said you wouldn’t be bothering with this had the manger not been participating- these are comments you think in your head, not actually write in an email.

You also told the recipient that they are irrelevant and not worth your time. Very unprofessional, especially if you work in certain roles like HR functions, supervisory, management etc where it may be your job to deal with their disciplinary action. Saying ‘reluctantly’ ‘attempt’ etc is very hostile.

SteamedPotatoes · 20/09/2019 17:53

Don't send it - did you already ?

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