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dad left little girl in resturant

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orangehead · 10/08/2007 16:22

recently eating out in pub/resturant, table next to me a guy with son about 2 and little girl in high chair about 10 months roughly. boy declared he neede loo and started to pull down pants so dad dashed him to loo and left girl. BTW loo on opposite side of pub and around two corners the dad was gone at least 5 mins the whole time the little girl was screaming obviously thought she had been left. I do understand difficult situation, I also have small age gap with my kids and had many similar situations where wished either someone else was there or I could just deal with the one child at time but not been possible so just dashed the 2 out. Anyway me and my dp were horrifed this guy left the girl. What do u think?

OP posts:
tassisssss · 11/08/2007 20:49

dh left ds at church not long ago...he assumed i'd taken him home despite the fact that i'd told him i was heading home and ds was his responsibility!

ScottishMummy · 11/08/2007 20:51

loving the chef request to puree baby garden veg - oooo lalala:

Also love baby addressed as the young lady ...how very jack and sarah

recall and name immediately i want to reserve

keep 'em comin^

3andnomore · 11/08/2007 20:51

we lived out in Cyprus when es was around 2...so, not exactly a Bubba, but just as otehrs have these positive experiences....the cypriots are also a Kid loving nation and especially when the Kid in question is blond and all blue eyed and the waiters and folks around would always make an effort to entertain ds, etc...

I agree it's sad that over here everyone is so suspicious and everyone is also so aware of that fact that everyone worries about making any contact with any child not their own ion case they are accused of something or other
Reminds me of that case where a child wandered out of their nursery and a guy saw it happening but was to frightened to interfere and the child ended up drowning.
I suppose it's harder being a childloving bloke, because well people are automatically more suspicious of those.

I recently offered to hold a young lasses Baby, as she was trying to eat and feed a Bottle to her Baby at the same time, and well, I had finished eating and was waiting for my mum to finish....but the girl declined, even though it must have been a bit of a mare...suppose she thought of me as some strange deranged loon trying to snatch her Baby...

ScottishMummy · 11/08/2007 20:53

LOL funny!!!

ScottishMummy · 11/08/2007 20:54

i am of course responding to tassisssss

ScottishMummy · 11/08/2007 20:56

3andnomore - your offer was kind and most un-loon-like

macmama73 · 11/08/2007 21:02

Love the Rome story! We have had the same experience in Italy, kids are welcome everywhere.

I remember when DD was small, I used to have to go into the cellar to get the pram out and it was a bit of a pain cause I had nowhere to put DD while carrying the pram up the stairs. One time the window cleaner arrived just as I was trying to decide what to do. I dumped DD on the poor guy and got the pram.

Another time I left DS outside a loo (it was tiny, no way to get the buggy in) when I took DD in. The young toilet attendent was making funny faces at DS when I came back out, he was a bit embarrassed when I saw him.

3andnomore · 11/08/2007 21:05

lol scottish

and fiddle...that is such a lovely experience.

fiddlemama · 11/08/2007 21:06

ScottishMummy. Will ask DH tomorrow (he's out with his friends tonight and likely not to be back until I'm well into my zzzz's).

It was called the somthing Palace and had originally been the home of one of the numerous minor royals that all these European countries seem to have.

ScottishMummy · 11/08/2007 21:09

i look forward to scottishprince and Mr ScottishMummy and me all lording in a la-de-dah^ gaff

3andnomore · 11/08/2007 21:12

lol...think is...as much as I love Baby's and still coo over them....I rather not have anymore of my own, lol.....my ys will be 3 tomorrow, and I'm so pleased to see finally the end of Baby years, etc....

fiddlemama · 11/08/2007 21:12

3andnomore. What a lovely gesture and such a shame she didn't take you up on it. I am now one of those matrons. Kids are babies no longer and I'm going to have to wait a while for grandchildren ( I hope - DD1 only 16!)

Many is the time I see a young mum juggling in a restaurant and I'd just love to offer to take the baby for a little while to give her some peace to eat without getting indigestion, but people are just so suspicious and I'm afraid I lack your courage.

3andnomore · 11/08/2007 21:15

oh, just rememebered something from last year...I was staying in a far to posh hotel here in teh UK...and for most of the stay I just felt so uncomfortable in that environment...I would be anyway, as I don't do posh, but staying there with 1-2 Kids at the time aged 2 and almost 4....nightmare...
however the last morning we met some lovely and childliking staff, ratehr then the nose turned up, we are far better then you kind....and they gave us all sorts of colouring books and even brough juice and whatnot whilest we were waiting, etc...
so, there can be nice staff even in posh British Hotels...

ScottishMummy · 11/08/2007 21:18

3andnomore - i am so nosy love babies children always gawping in prams at kids asking questions eg how old/name/etc

3andnomore · 11/08/2007 21:20

same hear scottish...
it's funny really I can be out wiht my own Kids and be so fed up with them and whilest they are driving me round the bend and I just get all narky with them...I still will go all sickly sweetly cooy over some cute Baby...lol....

maybe I am a complete nutter afterall, lol

aloha · 11/08/2007 21:22

I sometimes think I must be a man. I would probably have done what he did, perhaps with a desperate, 'keep an eye on her please' to nearby family or waiter. I often don't hold my child's hand on the escalator and they've never fallen down it. I don't think this was a big deal and I certainly don't pity his wife! What was going to happen? A rogue paedophile was going to run into the restaurant on the offchance and steal a crying baby in full view of all the diners - all within five minutes? I really don't think so.

LadyVictoriaOfCake · 11/08/2007 21:24

aloha its soemthing i often do actually (mis dee here).

or else i stand at the loo doors and keep popping my head out to check on the ones left att he table.

aloha · 11/08/2007 21:28

And you have three children so that's even more complicated! God with a toilet training child the panic is hideous IME! I have left my bag behind when taking kids to the loo - I'm sure that's riskier! More people want my purse than want my kids

ScottishMummy · 11/08/2007 21:31

LOL they can do more damage with yer cards and bag than a bubba

MissDee great see u posting u have been missed

flashfinn · 11/08/2007 21:41

OP - I feel for the man - I do things like that with my three - sometimes you just don't know where to put yourself - esp if one of the older ones runs off - you can't just abandon your pushchair and leg it after them. Atleast she was in a highchair and strapped in. Everyone around them would have known if someone else came along and took her out - most people were probably too scared to calm her down in case they thought she was going to be taken etc - so difficult. I agree with whoever said about the tut-tutting though - I can almost hear it myself sometimes. But it is also so brilliant when your own children comply and are angels and you walk out of a place feeling like the best mummy ever - in fact have only felt like that once and that was last week!

I hate letting my boys go into the mens toilets without me - it really freaks me out - and also freak out when I have to go into the ladies and they go into the mens as have no idea where they are or what they are doing!

ScottishMummy · 11/08/2007 21:53

flashfinn- yes you tell it as it is ...sometimes hasty ooopps here we go other times smooth sailing, returning to OP dont understand opinions that pillory the dad - no big deal imo

fiddlemama · 11/08/2007 21:58

Flashfin How old are your boys? My DS was 8 before I would let him use the mens on his own and even then I would stand outside it like a sentry until he came out. Likewise on the rare occasions ('cos he was away so much when kids were little) when DH was out with kids. Girls used to go in mens with him until they were about 6. He'd shout a warning when he went through door and warn any guy coming in that there was a little girl in the cubicle and he'd better wait if he objected.

It's very difficult I think for a man to take toddler/preschool daughters out on his own 'cos of the loo arrangements in most places. I think I spotted another thread somewhere about people with kids using disabled loos? Must try and find it again and see what folks are saying.

flashfinn · 11/08/2007 22:00

MIne are 4 and 6 - I try to take them in the ladies as much as possible but sometimes they just run straight in and am left hovering outside! Then if they take ages I shout round the door or have to ask blokes coming out if they have seen two little boys. They have pee'd on peoples shoes and clothes before

flashfinn · 11/08/2007 22:01

The worst bit is if they go for a poo and I can hear them shouting

'WILL SOMEONE WIPE MY BOTTOM?'

3andnomore · 11/08/2007 22:04

lol flash at the will someone wipe my bottom comment!
I also hated it when my es came to the age where he wasn't happy to come with me into the Lady's loo...and I can remember several instances where I stood flapping infront of a men's...asking anyone halfdecenlty looking trustworthy if maybe they could call out my sons name and ask him if all was well and report back to me, lol...

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