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Who is in the wrong here?

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IceAndASlice123 · 17/09/2019 18:57

Ella regularly babysits for Mark and is always paid for 3 hours work.
Yesterday, Marks adult brother, Tony, was at home. Mark told Ella she could leave the child with Tony if it went past her finish time.
About an hour in, Tony says he will take over the childcare from Ella. Ella says she can stay until her finish time but Tony insists.
Ella takes the money for the full shift despite only doing under half of it (Money is left in the kitchen ).
Who is in the wrong here? Should Mark be annoyed?

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jamoncrumpet · 17/09/2019 19:12

Ella was booked for three hours. Ella made herself available for three hours. Ella gets paid for three hours.

SparklyMagpie · 17/09/2019 19:12

@ClassicTracks 😂 winds me up aswell

Ella was right to take the money

MountPheasant · 17/09/2019 19:13

Nobody said Ella should work for free?? Where on earth are you getting that?

Mark has no right to be annoyed, she made herself available to work. If he wants to be annoyed at anyone he can direct it at Tony.

mamaofboyss · 17/09/2019 19:16

Ella is in the right she was available to work and turned up and said she would stay. No one here said she should work for free, majority agree that she rightly so should have taken the money

ClassicTracks · 17/09/2019 19:16

@SparklyMagpie Grin I had to read it three times to understand.

Is it just me that was waiting to be asked if Tony is taller than Ella or how many apples Mark had left?

Tilltheendoftheline · 17/09/2019 19:17

I think mark should be annoyed. At his brother for interfering.

Personally, I think ella should have stayed until she contacted mark to check it was ok. Since he specifically said it was ok if he wasnt back by the time the 3 hour were up. Not it was ok if Tony fancied taking over.

She was entitled to her full 3 pay. That's Tony's fault if Mark feels aggrieved he didnt get 3 hours work for 3 hours pay.

Personally I would have taken the money for the time I did though. Not saying that's right, but that's what I would have done.

VladmirsPoutine · 17/09/2019 19:17

These threads where the OP always sets out the scene in such a fashion where they don't want to say who they were and what their actions were in the story are so tedious. A misguided attempt at providing a 'neutral' view of what happened. Never really works. Just come out with it. Are you actually married to Mark, in other words, the 'Tony' and Ella is your baby sitter.

ThatCurlyGirl · 17/09/2019 19:18

@ClassicTracks

Is it just me that was waiting to be asked if Tony is taller than Ella or how many apples Mark had left?

This made me snort 😂

I wonder what time their trains will get in and whether they are cousins, second cousins or twins...

ThatCurlyGirl · 17/09/2019 19:19

And echoing everyone else obviously Ella should be paid for three hours because she had made herself available for that amount of time and wasn't given advance notice that she may finish that early - just that she was needed for three hours and if any more she was to hand little one over to Tony once the three hours finished.

KylieKoKo · 17/09/2019 19:20

If you turned up at work and your boss sent you home would you expect to be docked a days pay? I wouldn't.

Topseyt · 17/09/2019 19:22

Tony was in the wrong. Ella was perfectly reasonable to take the money.

Mark has no reason to be annoyed. Especially with Ella.

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IceAndASlice123 · 17/09/2019 19:22

Mark is annoyed at Ella. I am 'Ella'. 😐

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Topseyt · 17/09/2019 19:23

I meant especially not with Ella.

Topseyt · 17/09/2019 19:24

Why is Mark annoyed with you?

SparklyMagpie · 17/09/2019 19:26

"wonder what time their trains will get in and whether they are cousins, second cousins or twins"

Ah well first you need to work out the circumference of the cousins head

ZenNudist · 17/09/2019 19:26

Dont get it, were you supposed to only take the pay for the hours you actually did? That's what I would have done.

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IceAndASlice123 · 17/09/2019 19:26

As I left early and took the money.
I should have checked it was ok from Mark. I do see that now.

I dont think I was wrong to take the money as I shouldn't lose out financially, but should I now offer to give half back?

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VladmirsPoutine · 17/09/2019 19:26

Mark is being unreasonable. But but but... does he know you were told to leave or do you think Tony might have said "Ella pretty much left about an hour later" - so essentially might Mark not know how it all happened thus thinks you're the one taking the piss?

DurhamDurham · 17/09/2019 19:26

Tony is at fault for taking over the duties, Mark isn't even out of pocket is he, he left three hours pay, his baby was looked after and the babysitter got the money she was expecting.

VladmirsPoutine · 17/09/2019 19:27

but should I now offer to give half back?

No. Categorically no. This is how cheeky fuckers get away with being cheeky fuckers. Not a single penny should be given back.

DurhamDurham · 17/09/2019 19:27

Definitely let Mark know that Tony sent you away, you didn't take advantage of the fact he was there.

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IceAndASlice123 · 17/09/2019 19:28

It's a regular arrangement and I always get paid the same amount.
Perhaps I should have only taken what I worked but don't feel it was fair that I lose out as Tony decided he wanted to take over. Am I wrong there?

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bluebeck · 17/09/2019 19:28

Is there any way you could have checked with Mark before leaving?

The arrangement you had was with Mark, and fuck all to do with Tony. It's not like being sent home by the boss.

bluebeck · 17/09/2019 19:29

don't feel it was fair that I lose out as Tony decided he wanted to take over. Am I wrong there?

It wasn't Tonys call to make. Or yours without checking with Mark.

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IceAndASlice123 · 17/09/2019 19:29

I did make it clear that Tony insisted I leave.
So do you all think I shouldn't offer to give back some money?

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