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Finding a way through 'the avalanche of crazy' or Trump thread 96.

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lionheart · 17/09/2019 02:02

From back in Decemeber:

'This shouldn’t get lost in the avalanche of crazy. The wall we need is between DOJ and the White House. The foundation of our democracy- the rule of law- depends on it.' Sally Q. Yates.

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Old thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3645518-Its-High-Crimes-and-Misdemeanours-Time-Trump-thread-no-95

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TheClaws · 27/09/2019 01:59

Brennan.

John O. Brennan
@JohnBrennan
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5h
Whistleblower deserves our praise & gratitude.

Donald Trump getting very sloppy & careless in corrupt practices & cover up attempts.

Democrats & Republicans (those who have a conscience) need to work together to prevent desperate moves by Trump that could wreak further havoc.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 27/09/2019 06:25

Thank you for the explanation, peeps! Now I see it! Gosh, I need new glasses!

lionheart · 27/09/2019 07:27
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Hillary Clinton
@HillaryClinton
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25 Sep

'The president of the United States has betrayed our country.

That’s not a political statement—it’s a harsh reality, and we must act.

He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free.

I support impeachment.'

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Lweji · 27/09/2019 07:57

Stop the press.
Vermont governor.
The first GOP or only GOP to support impeachment?

edition-m.cnn.com/2019/09/26/politics/vermont-phil-scott-supports-impeachment-inquiry/

TheNorthWestPawsage · 27/09/2019 08:04

The Time cover could be Trump or B. Johnson Smile They can use it on both sides of the pond.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 27/09/2019 08:26

Some Time covers don’t age very well at all.

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 27/09/2019 08:31

This >>

It's pretty amazing that Ken Vogel had all the information needed for a Watergate-style scoop about Trump and was so hell bent on fitting the information into a predetermined anti-Biden narrative that he fumbled the ball.
twitter.com/danpfeiffer/status/1177254722266288128?s=21

The New York Times should be doing some soul-searching about how they missed a once-in-a-generation scoop because they were so obsessed with both-sides-ism.

Instead, they’re trying to out the whistle-blower.
twitter.com/obsoletedogma/status/1177305970525032448?s=21

lionheart · 27/09/2019 08:58

Both sides of the pond.

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lionheart · 27/09/2019 09:26

A question from a while back.

nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/05/trump-bornstein-mueller-questions-leaks-ukraine-missile-bribe.html

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Lweji · 27/09/2019 14:20

Impeachment? The Daily Show version.

lionheart · 27/09/2019 15:19

www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/nearly-300-former-officials-call-trumps-actions-concerning-ukraine-profound-national-security-concern/2019/09/27/254c09ac-e09e-11e9-8dc8-498eabc129a0_story.html

'“As national security professionals, many of us have long been concerned with President Trump’s actions and their implications for our safety and security,” the statement said. “Some of us have spoken out, but many of us have eschewed politics throughout our careers and, as a result, have not weighed in publicly.

“The revelations of recent days, however, demand a response,” it said. “. . . President Trump appears to have leveraged the authority and resources of the highest office in the land to invite additional foreign interference into our democratic processes.”

The statement continued: “If we fail to speak up — and act — now our foreign policy and national security will officially be on offer to those who can most effectively fulfill the President’s personal prerogatives.”'

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Lweji · 27/09/2019 15:44

Relevant to the campaign, not impeachment, but:

"A mother and 2 of her children have a rare bone disease. In 2018, her husband's union faced a potential $6 million annual bill for the family, casting doubt over the future of the labor group’s generous drug coverage and the family’s health."

This should fall under a nationally funded health system, not private insurance.

www.nytimes.com/2019/08/25/health/drug-prices-rare-diseases.html

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 27/09/2019 16:46

Apologies if this was already posted, it is Dan Rather's latest take on things:
"I am stunned. And I like to think I do not stun easily.

I find myself at moments almost speechless - granted not a quality one associates with former or even current news anchors.

This is story unlike any I have ever seen. Its contours seem to entangle this administration like a giant squid around a submarine in an old science fiction film, tentacles prying apart what once seemed solid. With a spectacle like this, it's sometimes important to pause and try to take in as wide a pictures as possible. There is so much we do not know, but what we know already is gravely striking. What the president, his lawyer, and others have already copped to would be enough to almost roll credits in a mob film. I apologize for the multiple cinematic allusions, but this story defies the imagination normally required for real life.

For most of my life, my job was to try to make sense of events, big and small, in real time. Sort of like a play by play broadcaster relating to an audience what is transpiring, often ad libbing as new details emerge.

I find myself wondering what it would be like to be in the midst of this story, either on the ground in Washington or in an anchor chair, tapping the incoming rivers of information from reporters, on Capitol Hill, at the White House, and at other perches necessary for covering this rapidly metastasizing narrative.

What I return to, as a think back at other moments of crisis and uncertainty, is the need as a reporter and as a citizen to remain steady. Now steadiness should not be confused with apathy or detachment. We need to be engaged, with a steely determination to get to the bottom of what seems to be but the tip of a proverbial iceberg. There are many leads to follow, many new angles emerging. We cannot afford to lose grasp of the threads of the much bigger story arc.

This is unprecedented. This is dangerous. But this is also necessary. We cannot panic in the face of what we confront, or get overwhelmed by details. We must breathe deep, take stock, see all for what it is, methodically and fairly uncover right from wrong, truth from fiction, and ultimately we must persevere, for the sake of our nation."

I do like Dan Rather reporting.

lionheart · 27/09/2019 18:09

It is good and he is right.

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lionheart · 27/09/2019 18:33

Interesting development there Lweji.

McConnell is also, apparently, circling the wagons but whether Trump is inside or out remains to be seen.

www.politicususa.com/2019/09/25/trump-pence-impeached.html

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 27/09/2019 18:45

Does anyone really believe that "so many leaders came up to me toady and they said, Sir...."

Really? The leaders of other countries call Trump "Sir"? In a pig's arse they do....

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 27/09/2019 18:45

today, not toady. Argh. Though I suppose we are meant to credit that people like Macron or Merkel toady to him.

cozietoesie · 27/09/2019 18:53

......."He knows the difference between right and wrong, but I don't know that he really cares.".....

cozietoesie · 27/09/2019 19:12

That would be a quote from Nancy...........

lionheart · 27/09/2019 20:22
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lionheart · 27/09/2019 20:25

We've jumped the shark already, I know but here you go:

www.rawstory.com/2019/09/giuliani-declares-hes-the-real-whistleblower-and-warns-if-i-get-killed-now-you-wont-get-the-rest-of-the-story/#.XY5H8PbEdPE.twitter

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cozietoesie · 27/09/2019 20:29

Who on earth wants to kill Giuliani?

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