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It's High Crimes and Misdemeanours Time! Trump thread no. 95

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Roussette Tue 23-Jul-19 08:05:04

I thought it was about time I started a thread so here it is! Mueller time tomorrow...

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/21/mueller-report-trump-nadler-impeachment

Roussette Tue 23-Jul-19 08:07:25

Previous thread

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3606675-Reach-for-the-stars-sun-moon-or-Mars-Trump-thread-94?watched=1&msgid=88756821#88756821

Lweji Tue 23-Jul-19 09:28:16

Thanks Rouss.

Fingers crossed Mueller time is not a let down.

cozietoesie Tue 23-Jul-19 09:42:49

Well done. smile

Roussette Tue 23-Jul-19 10:11:25

There's a lot of nervousness around about Mueller time... especially as he's been told he cannot say one word outside of what's in the Report.

www.politico.com/story/2019/07/22/justice-mueller-congress-testimony-limit-1426035

and

www.vox.com/2019/7/22/20704273/trump-mueller-testimony-watch-a-little-bit-lies
'Trump talked about Mueller’s testimony for around 90 seconds. He packed in 6 lies.'

He must be rattled

TheClaws Tue 23-Jul-19 10:11:36

Well done on number one, Roussette

lionheart Tue 23-Jul-19 11:09:51

Talking of which--here is Neal Katyal:

www.nytimes.com/2019/07/22/opinion/robert-mueller-testimony-trump.html

Thanks Roussette.

lionheart Tue 23-Jul-19 11:16:28

And some things which have not gone so well.

www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jul/22/blackjewel-mines-shut-down-layoffs-future?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

PerkingFaintly Tue 23-Jul-19 12:31:09

Thank you, Rousette!

cake and brew all round.

Plus gin, because I've just seen the news about Boris Johnson.angrysad

Whosorrynow Tue 23-Jul-19 12:42:14

Strapping in for another wild ride 🏎️

Lweji Tue 23-Jul-19 12:52:06

Yes, Boris. %#*& gin

AcrossthePond55 Tue 23-Jul-19 12:55:50

So it's Boris after all. This is going to be interesting.

At least he isn't Trump.

Thanks for the thread Roussette.

Roussette Tue 23-Jul-19 13:23:47

At least he isn't Trump

Honest Across he's Trump with an Eton education. There are far too many similarities to list.
Those who've worked with him say he is very lazy...and doesn't like reading detailed reports....

AcrossthePond55 Tue 23-Jul-19 13:50:40

Oh dear. I didn't realize there were so many similarities in their backgrounds!

Will he be as overtly racist as Scrotus? I usually think of Farage as overtly racist, but Johnson as being less 'race-baity to get what he wants'. Does that make sense? Johnson won't stir up race-hatred to get supporters like Scrotus does.

I guess I see Johnson as being 'pro-Upper Class' as far as the UK's social safety net (which we really don't have much of to begin with), but will he also do the same as Trump; tearing down regulation so he and his robber baron buddies can rape natural resources and working people via wages & union busting?

The UK UC and the US UC are two different sets of people in my mind. Our UC is completely money-based. I think of the UK UC as being more about heritage as opposed to just having money. You can easily buy your way into our UC. I wouldn't think it would be so easy to do so in the UK.

Or do I watch too much Downton and read too much Austen?

Roussette Tue 23-Jul-19 14:04:16

Well... he is known as a racist pr1ck and this article sums it up...
(I don't want to derail this Trump thread though)
There is a lot of dismay from a lot of people at today's result.
www.thecanary.co/opinion/2019/07/23/as-the-racist-liar-moves-into-downing-street-thousands-will-take-to-the-streets/

I can't imagine what BoJo is actually going to DO! He is extremely light on detail ! He calls the process of Brexit 'the hamster wheel of doom'. He's full of witty one liners like that. No substance though.

lionheart Tue 23-Jul-19 14:09:03

Yep, Trumpish.

Roussette Tue 23-Jul-19 14:10:28

Depressing...

www.rawstory.com/2019/07/trumps-disordered-personality-fits-into-a-disturbing-historical-pattern/#.XTcGj6bKKog.twitter

lionheart Tue 23-Jul-19 14:12:36

Blimey.

eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/07/22/trump-approval-rating-new-high-npr-pbs-poll-after-racist-tweets/1796556001/

lionheart Tue 23-Jul-19 14:14:56

www.lawfareblog.com/mueller-trump-everything-special-counsels-report-says-president-did-said-or-knew

lionheart Tue 23-Jul-19 14:17:17

www.nytimes.com/2018/07/13/opinion/brexit-conservatives-boris-trump.html

AcrossthePond55 Tue 23-Jul-19 14:51:50

Wow! That article is certainly enlightening. And frightening. I will be watching closely the 'special relationship' between Scrotus and BoJo.

Just be very very glad that the UK as the 'vote of no confidence'. Seems much simpler and more streamlined than impeachment.

The USAToday article says "Independents are on the fence overall," said Lee Miringoff, director of the Marist Institute for Public Opinion at Marist College. "They're not willing to grant President Trump reelection, and yet they're not persuaded by Democrats at this point."

This is so true. And it's why the Democratic candidate needs to be a more 'moderate' Democrat. We aren't going to get to the WH on Democrat voters alone. Because of the Electoral College we need the Independent voters in many states, a good number of whom lean right in swing states. And they aren't going to vote for someone with 'radical' ideas even if they are good ideas. We need them to vote Dem, not just abstain from voting rather than vote for Scrotus.

Roussette Tue 23-Jul-19 15:09:43

Holly Lee
@LeeHolly81
Replying to
@realDonaldTrump
Trump humiliates himself in A$AP Rocky case as Swedish Prime Minister explains he is not Bill Barr: “In Sweden everyone is equal before the law and that the government cannot and will not attempt to influence the legal proceedings.”

thinkprogress.org/trump-sweden-asap-rocky-backlash-0847fd5efe65/

TheNorthWestPawsage Tue 23-Jul-19 17:42:53

Thanks Rousette

TheNorthWestPawsage Tue 23-Jul-19 17:43:38

Soz Roussette

Lweji Tue 23-Jul-19 17:45:53

Is Trump writing Ivanka's tweets, or is it genetic?

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