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Finding a way through 'the avalanche of crazy' or Trump thread 96.

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lionheart · 17/09/2019 02:02

From back in Decemeber:

'This shouldn’t get lost in the avalanche of crazy. The wall we need is between DOJ and the White House. The foundation of our democracy- the rule of law- depends on it.' Sally Q. Yates.

Smile

Old thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3645518-Its-High-Crimes-and-Misdemeanours-Time-Trump-thread-no-95

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lionheart · 22/09/2019 10:54

[[https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/under-trump-arms-deal-high-tech-u-s-bombs-be-n1015346[[

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cozietoesie · 22/09/2019 13:29
Grin
cozietoesie · 22/09/2019 14:00

That would be for the 'Not a chance' comment. Wink

AcrossthePond55 · 22/09/2019 16:18

Yep, cozie. This is all about timing and the election. It's too late to rush it through now so IF there's any impeachment, it will be during a (God forbid) second term. I think that most of us just want him OUT. Whether or not he is ever punished for his crimes whilst in office is of secondary consideration. I think it's sad a lot of us feel that way but it is what it is. We don't have a John Dean. We don't have tapes. We don't have a president who, for all of his dirty dealings, respected the office of the Presidency and (in his way) loved our Country. Nixon was about power, not money. When he saw he'd lost power, he resigned. Scrotus is about money, not (so much) power. He will stay until he's wrung whatever he can from our Country.

I remember all the televised hearings of the Watergate Scandal. The televised hearings we're seeing now are completely different. I just don't remember 'obstructionism' and disrespect shown by witnesses then. The WH wasn't advising (at least not publicly) witnesses to not show up or to stonewall, let alone commit perjury. But then again, I'm looking back 40+ years and television journalism was very different then. As well as my own 'outlook' as a 19-20 year old vs the way I see the world now.

lionheart · 22/09/2019 17:05

It's tragic. Sad

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cozietoesie · 22/09/2019 20:01

The 'O'household must be fraught. Grin

lionheart · 22/09/2019 23:36

www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/09/trump-distances-himself-from-netanyahu-after-election

'Benjamin Netanyahu is learning the hard way that Donald Trump is a fair-weather friend. The right-wing Israeli prime minister had been among the president’s few steadfast friends on the world stage; Trump, in turn, has long stood strong with Netanyahu. But after Bibi appeared to suffer a stinging loss in the Israeli elections this week, Trump did what he always does when his buds fall on tough times and can no longer benefit him personally: He distanced himself from his embattled friend, appearing to downplay a relationship that Netanyahu made central to his reelection pitch to voters.'

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TheClaws · 23/09/2019 00:47

Hello, everyone - I’m still about! I had a literal and figurative holiday. The Biden/Ukraine news doesn’t surprise me at all - what would surprise me is if Congress does anything about it.

TheClaws · 23/09/2019 03:50

I hesitated to post this one, but I decided to as it’s important to understand the sheer vitriol of the extreme right. Dinesh d’Souza has a criminal past for campaign finance violations, for which Trump famously pardoned him. In short, he isn’t a stable or particularly pleasant fellow. The much-reported tweet below about Greta Thunberg neatly illustrates this trait.

Dinesh D'Souza @DineshDSouza
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Children—notably Nordic white girls with braids and red cheeks—were often used in Nazi propaganda. An old Goebbels technique! Looks like today’s progressive Left is still learning its game from an earlier Left in the 1930s

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lionheart · 23/09/2019 07:27

Oh yes--vile.

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Roussette · 23/09/2019 07:46

I saw that tweet, absolutely disgusting. That man is a cockroach.

Interesting about Trump and Netanyahu. I don't profess to totally understand the Israeli/Palestinian situation but this link is interesting...

www.timesofisrael.com/arab-israeli-lawmaker-election-results-a-slap-in-the-face-for-trump/

'A senior Arab Israeli lawmaker on Sunday said that the results of Israel’s recent election, which have made uncertain the political future of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, are also a stinging blow to US President Donald Trump.

“The result is a slap in the face not [just] of Netanyahu but also President Trump, who supports all the racism, all the atrocities and is preparing the most anti-Palestinian plan that has even been presented by the US,” Tibi told press in English.'

lionheart · 23/09/2019 14:40

Pressure points:

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/sep/23/susan-collins-maine-democrats-kavanaugh-controversy

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Lweji · 23/09/2019 16:28

Yes, I hope that the various choices to support the extremely poor choices of candidates and policies have consequences in the votes.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 23/09/2019 17:10

Collins deserves to lose her seat - a grade A hypocrite. Urban Dictionary uses her name quite aptly.
www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Susan+Collins&amp=true&page=2

lionheart · 23/09/2019 18:40

Ouch.

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lionheart · 23/09/2019 20:24

I think the little girl has got under his skin. Obama already occupies his head.

www.politicususa.com/2019/09/23/trump-un-obama-nobel-prize.html

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cozietoesie · 23/09/2019 23:32

Ms Maddow. Hang on in there.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 23/09/2019 23:33

Do I have to believe that a transcript released by the White House will necessarily be an accurate report of the actual words used?

Because I am not sure why I should do so.

AcrossthePond55 · 24/09/2019 01:28

Scrotus: "They gave one to Obama immediately when he ascended to the presidency."

One may 'ascend' to the throne, but one does not 'ascend' to the presidency. One 'takes the office' of the presidency.

Shows you what he's thinking, doesn't it?

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