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Finding a way through 'the avalanche of crazy' or Trump thread 96.

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lionheart · 17/09/2019 02:02

From back in Decemeber:

'This shouldn’t get lost in the avalanche of crazy. The wall we need is between DOJ and the White House. The foundation of our democracy- the rule of law- depends on it.' Sally Q. Yates.

Smile

Old thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3645518-Its-High-Crimes-and-Misdemeanours-Time-Trump-thread-no-95

Finding a way through 'the avalanche of crazy' or Trump thread 96.
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AcrossthePond55 · 08/10/2019 18:38

I hope BFEgypt is a term you all know. If not it means out in the middle of nowhere.

lionheart · 08/10/2019 19:34

It's not an expression I've heard before ...

This, however, is not new news. Smile

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-russia-2016-intelligence-report-read-kremlin-facebook-a9148036.html

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lionheart · 08/10/2019 19:38

Also not news.

publicintegrity.org/federal-politics/donald-trump-police-cities-bills-maga-rallies/

'Ten city governments from Arizona to Pennsylvania say the president’s political committee has stiffed them out of hundreds of thousands of dollars.'

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cozietoesie · 08/10/2019 20:22

Oh dear.

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lionheart · 08/10/2019 22:33

More oh dear. More non-co-operation.

edition.cnn.com/2019/10/08/politics/nancy-pelosi-letter-impeachment/index.html

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cozietoesie · 08/10/2019 23:24

Scottish courts tend to play hardball.

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cozietoesie · 08/10/2019 23:57

Oh...........l

TheClaws · 09/10/2019 01:12

Oh, that’s funny. Don’t the Trump administration even know how impeachment works? That they can’t just say “No, not right now, thanks,”?

TheClaws · 09/10/2019 01:34

Rudy seems to be getting worse every day. Is he actually a lawyer?

Rudy Giuliani @RudyGiuliani
We are now hearing if the whistleblower testifies, Congress will put them “behind a screen” and distort their voice. This is ludicrous! How hellbent are Dems in keeping the American public in the dark? #KangarooCourt

TheClaws · 09/10/2019 04:10

Even the White House tweeted this rubbish out. I’d expect Trump to tweet it, his Press Secretary, or one of his sycophants, but not the White House. They also call the impeachment inquiry “unconstitutional”. As I noted yesterday, it is the exact opposite of unconstitutional. This seems to be one of the GOP’s primary arguments, but it fails at the first step.

The White House
@WhiteHouse
This evening, the White House sent an eight-page letter to Speaker Pelosi and other House Democrat leaders, responding to the unprecedented, unconstitutional “impeachment inquiry” launched against President
@realDonaldTrump
.

Read the letter and more: 45.wh.gov/5yKBD8

Hoolajerry · 09/10/2019 04:16

However he seems to get away with everything. There's lots of bluster about how awful it is but no one actually seems to do anything. I really don't understand?

TheClaws · 09/10/2019 04:33

Mitch McConnell tweeted this - it seems to indicate he doesn’t support the process in the Senate, should it arrive there.

Leader McConnell
@senatemajldr
Overturning the results of an American election requires the highest level of fairness and due process, as it strikes at the core of our democratic process.

Leader McConnell
@senatemajldr
·
4h
Replying to
@senatemajldr
So far, the House has fallen far short by failing to follow the same basic procedures that it has followed for every other President in our history.

TheClaws · 09/10/2019 04:37

Hoolajerry I know, it’s maddening. But it does feel closer now than at any time since he was elected. There have been moments when we’ve thought, ‘This is it - surely he can’t survive this scandal,’ but he did. This time does have a different finality to it though.

TheClaws · 09/10/2019 05:57

Pelosi responds to the GOP’s tantrum letter:

Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
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4h
Pelosi responds: "The White House should be warned that continued efforts to hide the truth of the President's abuse of power from the American people will be regarded as further evidence of obstruction. Mr. President, you are not above the law. You will be held accountable."

lionheart · 09/10/2019 07:19

Impeachment Taskforce:

www.newsweek.com/tom-arnold-rob-reiner-trump-impeachment-force-1463968

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Roussette · 09/10/2019 07:21

I agree Claws I feel it too. And Trump and his tweets prove it. They are increasingly deranged and desperate

lionheart · 09/10/2019 07:31

Lindsey Graham
@LindseyGrahamSC
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6h
'To the Turkish Government:

You do NOT have a green light to enter into northern Syria.

There is massive bipartisan opposition in Congress, which you should see as a red line you should not cross.'

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 09/10/2019 08:19

Well, Lindsey you are one of the idiots who opened Pandora’s Box.

Lweji · 09/10/2019 09:59

Yes. You can't have your Trump chocolate cake and eat it.

lionheart · 09/10/2019 10:23

He has a strange and sorry story to tell, I'm sure.

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Roussette · 09/10/2019 13:26

Shock Shock

www.newsweek.com/russia-picked-donald-trump-and-ran-him-president-former-israeli-intelligence-1273009?fbclid=IwAR2RqEK7c3eHDvw0HdR9KSDwXxXK7Rvp7PKpgxzJ3JbyirDne59Ga2qh-x4

"Officials in Moscow looked at the 2016 U.S. presidential race and asked, 'Which candidate would we like to have sitting in the White House? Who will help us achieve our goals?' And they chose him. From that moment, they deployed a system [of bots] for the length of the elections, and ran him for president," former Mossad chief Tamir Pardo told the audience at the Marker's digital conference in Israel on Monday, where experts gathered to discuss online disinformation campaigns and bots.

lionheart · 09/10/2019 14:48

MSNBC
@MSNBC
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24m

'BREAKING: Turkish President Erdoğan says Turkish military operation against Kurdish and ISIS forces in northern Syria has begun; follows US president's announcement that the US would remove its forces from the area and not oppose a Turkish operation.'

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