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Finding a way through 'the avalanche of crazy' or Trump thread 96.

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lionheart · 17/09/2019 02:02

From back in Decemeber:

'This shouldn’t get lost in the avalanche of crazy. The wall we need is between DOJ and the White House. The foundation of our democracy- the rule of law- depends on it.' Sally Q. Yates.

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Old thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3645518-Its-High-Crimes-and-Misdemeanours-Time-Trump-thread-no-95

Finding a way through 'the avalanche of crazy' or Trump thread 96.
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cozietoesie · 29/09/2019 16:34

Jason Crow.

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TheClaws · 30/09/2019 00:56

Threats. (I’ve edited the Twitter handles to make these more readable.)

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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Like every American, I deserve to meet my accuser, especially when this accuser, the so-called “Whistleblower,” represented a perfect conversation with a foreign leader in a totally inaccurate and fraudulent way. Then Schiff made up what I actually said by lying to Congress......

His lies were made in perhaps the most blatant and sinister manner ever seen in the great Chamber. He wrote down and read terrible things, then said it was from the mouth of the President of the United States. I want Schiff questioned at the highest level for Fraud & Treason.....

....In addition, I want to meet not only my accuser, who presented SECOND & THIRD HAND INFORMATION, but also the person who illegally gave this information, which was largely incorrect, to the “Whistleblower.” Was this person SPYING on the U.S. President? Big Consequences!

TheClaws · 30/09/2019 04:06

And moving on to re-tweet an incitement to Civil War from that devout Pastor, Robert Jeffress. (There are three other tweets in this series, should you be interested enough to look them up: twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1178477539653771264?s=20)

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
....If the Democrats are successful in removing the President from office (which they will never be), it will cause a Civil War like fracture in this Nation from which our Country will never heal.” Pastor Robert Jeffress,

TheClaws · 30/09/2019 04:16

Agree with much of this. Trump is using evangelicals and Jeffress doesn’t recognise it though; Trump just wanted the voters and Jeffress as a tool to rein them in (and keep them in). The words aren’t coincidental.

Seth Abramson
@SethAbramson
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3/ We must stop pretending these words are just coincidental—or these retweets. Jeffress is a Trump surrogate; he told Fox News he had a specific statement he wanted to make; that statement involved a "civil war" and a call to "action" that cited a North-South war from the Bible.

2/ It's not an exaggeration to say both Trump and his surrogate Jeffress are trying to foment civil unrest—to include potential rebellion against the government of the United States—in the event of a wholly legal and constitutional action by the Congress of the United States.

1/ So as you can see from the interview, (1) Jeffress specifically went on Fox News to make his "prediction," (2) called evangelicals to "action" while raising the specter of a Second Civil War in harrowingly precise Biblical terms, and then (3) Trump was ready to retweet him.

Lweji · 30/09/2019 09:08

There's dirty and there's civil war.
It will get worse. SadAngry

Roussette · 30/09/2019 12:28

Yes, it's very worrying.

edition.cnn.com/2019/09/30/politics/trump-democrats-impeachment-ukraine-investigation/index.html

As Trump is inciting violence and threatening the WB, the Dems need to move fast I think

cozietoesie · 30/09/2019 13:11

I don't think it will come to that if the Dems set up a CC. (No appetite among the population.)

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lionheart · 30/09/2019 17:59

www.axios.com/mitch-mcconnell-senate-impeachment-house-a75ddd66-e684-44cb-ada0-773c2e5cae76.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100

'Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said on CNBC Monday that the Senate would have "no choice" but to put President Trump on trial if the House votes to pass articles of impeachment.'

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lionheart · 30/09/2019 18:56

This just gets worse.

www.nytimes.com/2019/09/30/podcasts/the-daily/whistleblower-complaint-cia.html

'It took just days for a whistle-blower complaint to prompt an impeachment inquiry of President Trump. But it took weeks for the concerns detailed in the complaint to come to light — and they nearly never did.'

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lionheart · 30/09/2019 19:28

www.newsweek.com/who-chris-collins-trump-supporter-arrested-1063028

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lionheart · 30/09/2019 21:24

Dustin Volz (WSJ)
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'NEW: Secretary of State Mike Pompeo was on the July 25 call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, a senior State Department official said Monday, a disclosure that ties the State Department more closely to an ongoing congressional inquiry.'

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cozietoesie · 30/09/2019 21:31

Blimey.

PerkingFaintly · 30/09/2019 21:48

Wait, what have I just seen?

BBC News just now, Hong Kong protestors with a stuffed toy "Pepe Frog", which apparently is a new symbol of the protestors. The protests were originally against something very specific, viz the introduction of an extradition law to PR China. That law is no longer going to happen, but the protests are continuing and have morphed into more general anti-govt protests.

And now... they've taken up Pepe the Frog? The US far-right meme?

WTF?

Sorry, as you were...

Lweji · 30/09/2019 22:19

AP Press
House Democrats have subpoenaed President Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani for documents related to his interactions with Ukrainian officials. t.co/QuQkzm5fL0

Lweji · 30/09/2019 22:40

On side news:

Ivanka Trump posts family photo with boy in storm trooper outfit (note: yes, Empire, not Resistance).
And uses caption: "The Force is strong in my family,"

You misspelled "Fraud."#GoForceYourselft.co/ORY6eeyGgj
— Mark Hamill (@HamillHimself) September 29, 2019

She asked for it.

PerkingFaintly · 30/09/2019 22:42

Ouch!Grin

Doingtheboxerbeat · 30/09/2019 22:48

Not a star wars fan but I suddenly love Mark Hamill for the shade.

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lionheart · 30/09/2019 22:49

Pepe? That's very odd.

Barr is in a spot of trouble.

www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/attorney-general-barr-personally-asked-foreign-officials-to-aid-inquiry-into-cia-fbi-activities-in-2016/2019/09/30/d50cd5c4-e3a5-11e9-b403-f738899982d2_story.html

'Attorney General William P. Barr has held private meetings overseas with foreign intelligence officials seeking their help in a Justice Department inquiry that President Trump hopes will discredit U.S. intelligence agencies’ examination of Russian interference in the 2016 election, according to people familiar with the matter.'

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lionheart · 30/09/2019 23:18

Jim Acosta (CNN)
@Acosta

'Aides to Trump are warning him he faces the real likelihood of being impeached. Some of those conversations occurred on Friday as Trump met with his impeachment team, we've learned. Advisers are divided over subject as some are reassuring Trump that Pelosi is just placating Dems.'

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