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75% of mothers

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user87382294757 · 16/09/2019 18:56

...do all of the housework and childcare related tasks - no matter how many hours they work outside of this

I was a bit depressed to read this in the Independent newspaper today.

I wondered how mush of this rings true in your experience?

OP posts:
LittleMy20 · 17/09/2019 18:35

It was true before I filed for divorce. He left it all to me and also complained when I had chores to do at weekends but did not help me.

Crystal87 · 17/09/2019 18:37

It's true in our house because my husband works and I'm a stay at home parent. I wouldn't expect him to come home and do loads. He will do the dishes and do whatever needs doing that I haven't had time for but I do the bulk. On his days off it's probably equal.

HauntedPinecone · 17/09/2019 18:38

It was true with my ex husband and is one of the main reasons he is my ex. Now, with lucky husband number 2, he does more. I'm considered unusual though. My family, friends and colleagues think he's some sort of hero.

MissConductUS · 17/09/2019 18:39

This would be very unusual in the US if both people worked outside the home. In my case, DH does most of the cooking, shopping, laundry and looks after the cats. I clean and vacuum and sort the kids clothing and school stuff. It seems fair to us.

mysweetlove · 17/09/2019 18:40

True in my house, husband does nothing. Angry

Ilovecolinjackson · 17/09/2019 18:43

True in my house, honestly not bothered.
If it bothers me I back of and DH picks up slack if he moans I tell him to get a grip it's his house to. it's not hard.

If the imbalance bothers you sort it out don't my a martyr festering with resent.

HauntedPinecone · 17/09/2019 18:45

So many people saying their make partner does nothing. Honestly, why do you put up with it?

thecatinthetwat · 17/09/2019 18:46

I wouldn't go so far as to agree with Theresa May about boys jobs and girls jobs. But I think it often breaks down that way without there being a serious imbalance in total amount of work done by each partner, and if both are happy with their division of labour I don't see a feminist issue here. And I'm a full-on radical feminist.

Surveys that ask men and women how much free time they have, seem to show that men have more. So I think, even accounting for ‘boy jobs’ and ‘girl jobs’ Confused, women have less free time. So it is a feminist issue.

thecatinthetwat · 17/09/2019 18:49

So many people saying their make partner does nothing. Honestly, why do you put up with it?

Exactly. Is it because all the men you know are the same? Or that you assume they are?

Apparently 25% are not useless, selfish twats. Could you find one of those?

Bozlem80 · 17/09/2019 18:54

True in my house, I look after my GD twice a week, go work twice a week then my day off is spent cleaning, I do all the cooking, take & fetch kids from school, help with homework etc.... my DH goes to work at 8am & gets in at 6pm, has his tea then goes to the gym for 2 hrs, he goes out on a Saturday night as well, I’ve had to sacrifice my dishwasher as having building work & I always considered it a luxury so now I’m doing the dishes too, nobody in the house offers & when I ask there is always an excuse!

user1472151176 · 17/09/2019 18:57

100% for me. Cleaning and childcare. I also work 35 hours a week! But I work from home so my job isn't taken seriously despite the additional money I bring into the house. I am exhausted with life in general at this stage. My dh is useless (because I let him). It's like having another child. I make his packed lunch, prepare all his meals, get his clothes for him in the morning. Absolute madness. He sits down and does whatever he wants at the weekend whilst I do everything else. All the kids activities, all the house work, all the cooking, up keep of the garden EVERYTHING.

GrubbyCubLeader · 17/09/2019 18:58

Think it depends on the family set up. I'm a single parent so I do all the housework etc (no one else to do it) and have a FT job. My DM did all the housework because she was a home during the day and my DF worked FT. My DM did the majority of childcare because she was at home more (worked PT in evenings) but in the evenings my DF bathed us, put us to bed etc, even when DM wasn't working. If both parents work FT then it should be 50/50.

StitchingMoss · 17/09/2019 18:59

But user, why?? Why would you do that?

Just stop! Making his packed lunch?? That’s beyond insane!

swingofthings · 17/09/2019 19:01

What did they include in 'housework'? Did it also include gardening, cutting the grass, doing DIY, fixing broken things, cleaning the barbecue, getting the rubbish out, cleaning the cars, painting, decorating, etc... if they did, I very much doubt it's 75%

HauntedPinecone · 17/09/2019 19:02

user1472151176 You would have less work to do if you got rid of him. I hope you don't find this offensive, I'm just speaking plainly, but I don't know how you could live with a man like that, how can you be sexually attracted to someone who treats you like a skivvy?

Mumofferalkids · 17/09/2019 19:04

Those saying they don’t know anyone who does it all can’t know any single parents then, given something like 25% of UK families are single parent units, mainly mothers, that has to account for a fair chunk. Then those with husbands away for work/forces etc plus those women who are SAHM’s, I’m not that surprised.

QueSera · 17/09/2019 19:08

Bizarrely in virtually ALL households of people I am close to, it is the male who does the vast majority of these tasks. (In my own, I do more, but I have fewer hours of 'work outside the home'.) I do know that this goes entirely agianst all studies/surveys on the subject.

SoyDora · 17/09/2019 19:09

user1472151176 the worst thing about that is that he’s happy to let you run yourself ragged while he’s waited on like a king. Not a nice man.

CoinOperatedBoy · 17/09/2019 19:14

Imagine if I excpected it of a bloke at the start of the relationship "Oh, sorry I thought you were going to do it all, my last bloke did"...

No way in hell would I be a slave to someone at home if we both worked FT.

Beautiful3 · 17/09/2019 19:14

I'm a sahm now, so I do all of the house work and child care. When I did work, we split the house with 50/50.

Beautiful3 · 17/09/2019 19:15

Forgot to add that my husband always does the mowing and gardening.

Lweji · 17/09/2019 19:15

Bill paying, car maintenance, gardening, gutter-cleaning, DIY. All are things husbands may well be doing while their wives are doing housework and childcare which these surveys never account for.

That would probably account to 10-90 in most households. At best.
Unless they have a fleet of very old cars, a huge house with constantly dirty gutters, a large Chelsea style garden, build all their own furniture and pay all bills directly by hand.

Putyourdamnshoeson · 17/09/2019 19:21

I was a sahp and did most of house/garden/DIY, dh did some washing up, Saturday breakfast.
Now I work 20 hours a week and sti do the same. He does do brownies/beavers runs and talks enthusiastically about how he needs to help more at home. He doesn't. He sporadically cleans a thing (shower cubicle glass) or folds laundry. Zero cooking of main meals..
We used to argue a lot. Now I just do it.
It's insane, I'm not a doormat in so many ways and I do resent him for this.

swingofthings · 17/09/2019 19:27

That would probably account to 10-90 in most households
Definitely not. Granted that it won't be the case if you rent a flat, but any small owned house do require a lot of attention. I certainly discovered when I became a single mum.

Poolbridge · 17/09/2019 19:30

Apologies in advance for the essay.

STBXH works FT. I work PT and are a SAHM the other days.

As I explained to my therapist in March of this year regarding my STBXH, I feel like a slave in our home, because I am a slave. I do:

99% of washing dishes
99% of wiping up spills, food crumbs on kitchen and dining table surfaces, around gas top etc (STBXH never cleans up his own mess - so has no reason to cook in a tidy away, eat in a tidy way, make tea or coffee without spills, etc)
100% of defrosting of freezer (STBXH often doesn't close freezer properly, necessitating need for defrosting, but NEVER defrosts freezer himself) - thus creating work for me
100% of cleaning out fridge of old / inedible food
100% of occasional sweeping / vacuuming floors
98% of laundering, folding and putting away of bed linen (usually weekly)
85% of laundering, folding and putting away of towels (usually weekly / 10 days)
98% of shopping for food and household items (for eg toilet paper, laundry soap) and stacking food away and household items
99% of cleaning of large rear garden (mowing lawns, trimming trees, weeding)
100% of removing mildew, mould and dirt from concrete patio area
85% of cleaning weeds and rubbish from driveway
100% of driving
99% of putting kitchen waste, recycleables and bathroom waste into outside rubbish bin
100% of re-sorting recycleable bins because STBXH won't put correct waste into right bin
90% of putting outside rubbish bins back in place once rubbish removalist have emptied them
98% of driving waste and emptying waste (garden, large items) at local tip
100% of re-stacking dishwasher as STBXH refuses to stack dishes in dishwasher which maximises amount of items can be put in.
100% of bleaching bathroom grout - every ~3 months
100% of removing limescale from shower door - every ~3 months
100% of weekly and annual maintenance required of dishwasher and washing machine and dryer (descaling, emptying and degreasing filters etc)

100% of taking DC to activities eternal to house (STBXH has I think only taken DC out of the house on his own not more than 5 times in close to 18 months) - including not even taking DC into outside back garden. He keeps DC trapped in the house and never takes her our for fresh air.
100% of laundering and putting away DC's clothes and other laundry items
95% of cleaning DC's highchair and floor around it
98% of shopping for all items relating to DC (clothes, equipment, toys, books etc)
80% of cooking of DC's meals
85% of tidying away DC's toys
Until recently, 90% of bathing DC. Now closer to 55%
80% of cleaning up after DC on Saturday, when STBXH is meant to be doing this;

100% for checking house bank account and arranging top ups
100% for organising / liaising with electricity and gas providers, council re council tax, internet provider, water provider, tv licence payments, house insurance, car insurance payments, car tax payments, responding / opposing harmful local planning applications
100% of liaising with internal house cleaner and window cleaner
100% for arranging annual car insurance, car roadworthy check
100% for assembling and maintaining DC's toys (batteries etc)
100% for researching and booking all details of family holidays
95% of liaison with trades people for repairs for house

I also manage all affairs with our 2 rented houses; tenant management, repairs, inspections, tax returns, etc.

STBXH does:

75% of emptying dishrack (after nagging mostly, and because he does it so rarely it often means that because it is overflowing, I can't wash evening dishes and then start day with unclean kitchen, and having to wash dishes in the early morning, before I can start my day)
98% of emptying dishwasher
Twice a year, a half-hearted effort of cleaning front gravel garden - removing waste and some leaves (usually I have to finish the job once STBXH purports to make a half hearted effort). It only happens after I have asked him and he has promised me to do this > 20 times, and I have become either furiously angry or despondent with hopelessness. 363 of 365 days of the year I have had to look at rubbish collecting in our front garden because STBXH refuses to clean this area.

Most of the 3 tasks that STBXH has 'agreed' responsibility for, he does with such reluctance and resentment, it creates a weight and heaviness to my spirit.

On the cooking of food, STBXH has made it clear from day 1 of our marriage that if I won't BOTH cook healthy and nutritious meals for both of us and then clean up afterwards, he will eat 2 minute noodles or order take out. More often than not, when I cook meals STBXH also insults my cooking, or say he doesn't want to eat any of my food because he is full, but then he will order kebab, Indian or Chinese at 10pm at night once I go to bed. STBXH never takes any ownership or responsibility for meal preparation, and will often ask me at 7 or 7:30pm whats for dinner? Thus confirming his expectation I should be cooking something and him taking no responsibility for our shared need for healthy and nutritious food. STBXH 'go to' is processed or take-out food - which if push comes to shove, that is what I get from him.

Yes, I like many others married a 'Prince' among men. And after 9 years - 9 bl#!dy years - I am only just now escaping.

On a serious note however, what does it say about our society that so many men feel able to treat women in such an unequal way. And what does it say about me - an educated, qualified, professional person that I have enabled him to do this, and put up with this for so long. How on earth do we change this male privilege that even in 2019 is so ingrained...?

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