AIBU to think teachers should be respectful to pupils?

[mammaplay]

DS 11 has just started secondary school. He has mild SEN needs which the school are aware of (effects speed of work and presentation).
Today in front of the class, the maths teacher screwed up his worksheet, threw it in the bin and simply handed him a new worksheet (with no verbal communication) as he'd made a minor mistake in not leaving enough space on the page.
AIBU to think this type of behaviour from teachers is a bit 'old school' and unnecessary, or am I being completely precious about my little snowflake?

Exactly. Not reinforcing the child's upset by making a mountain out of a molehill.

ToBeShared

I honestly can’t see why I would cover it in gold leaf and mount it on the wall. What else should be done with a worksheet that is surplus to requirements and has to be started again? It is neither use nor ornament.

I'm certain the incident happened as described

How?

If the teacher just placed the page in the recycle bin, maybe not a big deal, but they took the time to screw up the paper, screwed up paper takes up more room in the bin which must be overflowing.That's not how you efficiently disposes of paper if you have loads of it. But Seaweed you are not stupid - you know this and you know it was an aggressive act and if you don't believe me - understand that it will be interpreted as such by some pupils and their parents - not that it seems you would care about that.
I've expressed my opinion, you have expressed yours - I've I no wish to continue this discussion.

ToBeShared

I am snorting with laughter here. I know no such thing.

I muse be very aggressive then. I screw most paper up, I just do.....never thought of myself as inherently aggressive.

Just, y'know, stopping the paper popping back open out of my overflowing recycling bin 😁

Belinda

I cannot believe people think like this. They actually think it’s normal and reasonable to try to dictate how a teacher disposes of unwanted paper. Granted, if I chewed it up and spat it out on the child’s desk, that would be aggressive.

Some people need to get a grip.

If I'd ripped it up in their face whilst shouting at how awful the work was, that's entirely wrong.

Replacing sheet and getting rid of other one without saying anything is just carrying on with minimal fuss for everyone, surely?

Seaweed and Lola thank you for your educational myth debunking session.

In my next lesson I'm going to make sure all pupils move round the room so they have chance to let their energy out. (Genuine advice when I was training )

It sounds like we all train early noughties?

The days of "peak educrap"?

What the fuck this thread....

So a Y7 teacher took a wrongly completed sheet from a kid, binned it and replaced it. The main complaint isn’t that the teacher wasn’t up on the kid’s SEN info (Y7 this time of the year, who is?), or that the teacher didn’t then demonstrate the correct completion but that the teacher wasn’t respectful?

I wonder if said parent has ever barked at their kid to get their shoes on because we’re going to be late, or wearily and without verbal communication grabbed an inside out shirt, turned it the right way around and handed it back.

Why do parents treat their kids with such disrespect?

Because sometimes, just sometimes, you’re a bit fed up of having to cajole, implore, instruct, repeat yourself and just want it done right.
Teaching Y7 at this point of the year is herding cats, putting an octopus in a string bag and all the rest of it.

Teacher did not bellow at the kid, wave their inadequate work in front of the class and label them a dunce. Let it go.

teachermaths
I do hope that within all that moving around you had colour coded sheets to match the tiered learning objectives so your lower ability students know they only need to do the purple activities.

Then at the end of the lesson you obviously set a nandos menu for homework where 2/3 of them were pointless "write a poem from the perspective of a number" and "make a poster about prime numbers". That way they can have ownership of their learning.

Last time I posted on a teaching thread it got really really messy so I'm going to be very cautious.

OP - just talk to the teacher. Ask them - from their point of view- what happened. There really is no need for all this angst.

And chilledbee I find it terrifying that you are management and yet don't understand basic apostrophes. Maybe you missed that activity during the grammar carousel lesson.

we all train early noughties?

Card sorts. For the kinaesthetic learners.

So many card sorts.

colour coded sheets

This is making an unwelcome comeback.

I heard of a colleague praised for differentiation for the colour coded worksheets.

They might have been different colours, but they were all the same sheet.

These threads always make me wonder how my day will be reported by the children.

My version: child didn’t understand the maths on Friday, they need to look at it again in a quiet session 1:1 or small group with TA. I’ll ask them to sit with TA in our reading session to review it so they can move on in maths today.

Child: I was sectioned away from my friends just because I found the work hard and I couldn’t work with them and Miss told me it was rubbish and she was really shouting.

(Sectioned phrase was borrowed from a parent who demanded to know about this last week in a similar situation)

My God - you all sound like petulant children 🙄 @ChilledBee I'm not surprised you are fed up if this is the environment you have to work in

The nandos menus.... The stuff of nightmares!!

I hope you've all marked your books in pink for think and green for seen. Heaven forbid ofsted or the governers see any blue pen on white paper.

Sorry but I couldn't get worked up about this.

Teach your child some resilience.

Was it nice of the teacher? Not really. Was it a big deal? Also not really.

Seaweed

I did but again you haven't understood my obvious point

I'm out

@mybluemoonbeam it's teacher frustration at being managed by people who are do out of date with teaching practices.

As school leaders, head TEACHER your teaching should be demonstrably excellent. And that means being professional enough to keep up with research on your chosen line of work.

MyBlueMoonbeam

And I am not surprised some teachers are fed up, being patronised by some members of their SLT who are themselves under-skilled and behind the curve in terms of pedagogy, spewing nonsense all over MN, complete with basic spelling mistakes.

Wonder what the teacher will say?

Oblomov19

Um

Hmm

Yeah

MyBlueMoonbeam
We are laughing because some of what's being promoted by a head teacher (to the point of suggesting staff shouldn't be in her school if they don't follow it) are totally debunked ideas and fads from a decade ago, some have been found to be damaging to learning and over time have been the cause of huge numbers of staff being bullied out.

The best senior leaders I've worked under are reflective, adaptive, keep up to date with research and don't decide their way is the only way to teach. I wouldn't want my child in a school where the head still promotes learning styles and thinks it's unreasonable for staff to use evidence informed strategies.

Then again, I have question marks over any so called senior leader who thinks that having notes in a logical order for GCSE revision is detrimental to students and doing something for Ofsted.