AIBU to think teachers should be respectful to pupils?

[mammaplay]

DS 11 has just started secondary school. He has mild SEN needs which the school are aware of (effects speed of work and presentation).
Today in front of the class, the maths teacher screwed up his worksheet, threw it in the bin and simply handed him a new worksheet (with no verbal communication) as he'd made a minor mistake in not leaving enough space on the page.
AIBU to think this type of behaviour from teachers is a bit 'old school' and unnecessary, or am I being completely precious about my little snowflake?

Direct instruction works for some learners but does nothing to develop critical thinking skills. Ask any further education lecturer how terrible students are at critical thinking or why they find referencing so difficult. The answers are linked.

Oh sort yourself out. Critical thinking skills come when you know some stuff, not just by osmosis through faffing about.

And it’s “bare” minimum. Not “bear”.

Hahahaha or make up a rap after doing a carousel activity shudders

You cannot analyse, evaluate or create until you know stuff.

Really know it.

So your working memory is freed up to do the critical thinking. If you don't KNOW stuff, you cannot do those things at the top of Blooms taxonomy.

My son is under send in year five a teacher ripped out his work and threw it away he told him he could do better and explained where he had gone wrong he STILL goes on about it now he finds the whole act of ripping paper violent and aggressive 🤦‍♀️

he finds the whole act of ripping paper violent and aggressive

That doesn’t make it so.

One person's perception of something doesn't make it a universal truth everyone else must abide by.

Gosh this is like dated, debunked educational theory 101 bingo here.

What next, they've just led a CPD session about how to stretch the children they need to spend a lesson evaluating something they haven't got any knowledge of yet?

Maybe this is how we've got to a point where people don't value experts and Joe Blogs thinks having seen a few shares on social media means he knows more about economics than staff at the Bank of England or Jane down the road thinks that she knows more than the scientific community on vaccine safety (after all she's done her "research" and suitably evaluated whatever she's read on conspiracy theory websites).

She isn't allowed to teach top sets any more as her results are so crap.

Does that mean the lower sets are stuck with her? If she's so shit,why is she good enough for them? Don't their progress and results matter?

Once again circling back to low expectations.

And if her results are crap, then it's your job as HT to help that teacher get better.

Just make sure you're up to date with pedagogical thinking before going in wiffling on about learning styles.

Does that mean the lower sets are stuck with her? If she's so shit,why is she good enough for them? Don't their progress and results matter?

Once again circling back to low expectations.

I'm going to guess that some classes aren't a priority so they want staff who'll fall in line on dated and debunked ideas to work with kids who'll probably do ok.
They can give this teacher a lower ability class and then that (probably due to the whole school approach to teaching and learning set by leadership) will create low results because they've spent years discovering or not discovering stuff and then the head can start increasing the learning walks, observations, suggest they go and watch the new NQT who turns on a show for the right people to learn how to teach properly, generally build a case for capability on spurious grounds and then wait for the teacher to get signed off and then resign. Perfect for the 3 teachers that shouldn't be in their school for not falling in line with learning styles.

@ChilledBee

Well that’s terrible management. Top sets are actually easier to teach then bottom. It takes incredible skill to guide students through the course while supporting their learning needs and access arrangements.

My school is one of the best state schools in the country. And I can assure you that there is a massive focus on getting the students to keep clear, well presented notes. We also ask them to take responsibility for their work. It is amazing what you can get out of kids if you set the bar high and ask them to reach for it.

Same old story @LolaSmiles

Learning styles were debunked about ten years ago, weren’t they?

Sounds about right @LolaSmiles .

It is amazing what you can get out of kids if you set the bar high and ask them to reach for it.
It really is! The gratitude as well when they realise you believe in them and aren't "treating us like thick kids" is amazing. Carefully structuring things so they can have a good vocabulary and feel confident in what they know leads to that moment where they realise how far they've come fills you (and them) with pride.

Belle
More like 5 I think. I was aware of them still being promoted on training courses as recently as then anyway.

It's the same old story though: people get to SLT by preaching their view of education but feel threatened by changing ideas and the growth of research so rather than be open minded and consider they need to reflect and adapt and consider other pedagogical views, they go into self preservation mode where they were right all along and want to surround themselves with people who'll confirm their worldview.

Screwing up a worksheet and throwing it in the bin is poor behaviour from a teacher - I would not be comfortable with it and I would ask to speak to the teacher - and I'd expect it not to happen again or I would be contacting someone more senior.

Screwing up a worksheet and throwing it in the bin is poor behaviour from a teacher - I would not be comfortable with it and I would ask to speak to the teacher - and I'd expect it not to happen again or I would be contacting someone more senior.

So again, what do you expect to be done with it?

And why should the teacher agree with you that it’s inappropriate? It is a simple act of disposal of something that is no longer useful.

seaweed
It should be framed with a good try sticker on it and kept for all eternity because anything else is mean and horrible.

LolaSmiles

It’s bloody ludicrous, isn’t it? I am not prepared to engage in practices akin to child worship. Children need to learn that the best outcome in the classroom is the one that allows them to learn the most and to be safe. A worksheet going in the bin is absolutely nothing to worry about, and their parents need to correct them if they are upset about it, not indulge this utter nonsense.

It is a simple act of disposal of something that is no longer useful. You honestly believe it's just a simple act of disposal? Fair enough.

That doesn’t make it so.

I'm aware of this seeweedandmarchingbands I'm just saying while this isnt really a big deal from the adults perspective especially as my sons teacher was explaining why this was done it was a big deal to The CHILD

I really thought that was obvious

Haha in my classroom I would need to get it in the recycle asap. It's like an explosion in a paper factory at the front with all the sheets. Tiny room, 7 year groups, no space.

I have to be ruthless or I lose everything.

Parents need to explain it's not a huge deal then.

It's just a sheet. Sometimes its easier just to start again. No Biggie.

Seaweed
I agree

slipperywhensparticus

The point being, parents should be helping children to understand that it isn’t a big deal.