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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To not answer my front door and ignore any knocking?

183 replies

Bartyy · 10/09/2019 19:24

I’m as anti social as you can get. I have to interact with people at work but when I’m at home I want to be left alone.

In the past I’ve rushed out of the shower to answer the door to someone who turned out to be selling double glazing. I’ve stopped mid bake and washed my hands etc to answer the door to someone pushing religion. I’ve cut short telephone calls to answer the door to someone pushing a political agenda. A few months ago I decided I will no longer answer the door unless I’m actually expecting someone. I’m sick of it. This is my home, my “space” and I want to be left alone!!

I now ignore all knocks unless I’m expecting someone, including ignoring the parcel man wanting to take shit in for next door. I’m sick of that too, he should arrange delivery for when he’s actually home.

Recently a little lad has been asking to come around and play with my dogs. At first him mum used to text me first but now he just turns up so I’ve started ignoring him too. It’s tea time, DH has just got in from work and the dogs are settled. I don’t want to be disturbed and answering the door, even to tell him no sets the dogs off and disturbs my dinner.

AIBU?

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Gingerivy · 11/09/2019 16:42

I've had delivery people that insisted they had to leave the package with me as they'd already put a note in the person's door saying they'd left it here. Too bad - I'm not taking it.

missmouse101 · 11/09/2019 17:45

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adaline · 11/09/2019 17:49

@missmouse101 we certainly didn't receive a letter - someone knocked on the door, explained who he was and was incredibly pushy in trying to arrange an appointment for him to return. I really wasn't impressed to be honest and told my DH not to bother answering the door the next time!

Of course I appreciate not all of you are the same but it really put me off and if we're given the chance to opt out next time then we certainly will I'm afraid.

missmouse101 · 11/09/2019 18:02

@RosaWaiting, it is such a massive randomised sample that it will reflect the population as a whole. They are constantly taking place across the country to provide up to date and accurate stats.

RosaWaiting · 11/09/2019 18:55

@missmouse101

Okay I’m not a statistician but I don’t understand that at all.

Also wondering what kind of information they are after?

I can understand people chucking envelopes addressed to the Resident tbh.

Graphista · 11/09/2019 19:17

These type of threads come up regularly on mn.

I'm with you op

I don't answer the door unless I definitely know I'm expecting someone.

I live in a flat that has buzzer entry. I'm also currently housebound (MH issues) and very quickly after moving in (wasn't completely housebound at that point but rarely went out) the first lead up to Christmas my new neighbours (who hadn't even bothered saying hello first!) twigged I was mostly home and had their Christmas deliveries defaulting to ours - was annoying enough with usual parcels but when I got landed with a large piece of furniture enough was enough! I stopped taking neighbours parcels then - and no I don't expect them to take mine either.

There's a special entry thing for the postman BUT he's supposed to use it before 11am, new postman couldn't seem to get his head around that meaning I was getting buzzed EVERY DAY to let him in around lunchtime! My sleep isn't great so I'm normally asleep at this time PLUS I'm physically disabled and so not the quickest to answer and he was impatient and buzzing 2/3/4 times before I could reach the sodding intercom! Lost the head with him eventually and told him to pack that in! Called the Royal Mail office (at this point I didn't know how it worked for him accessing our block) to find out what the situation was and was told he was SUPPOSED to access before 11am and he CERTAINLY Shouldn't be buzzing, buzzing, buzzing!

Then about 2 weeks ago? Dd and I settled for the night, not expecting anyone...some twat buzzes at 1125pm!! Not even just once! But twice! And then with it going a second time I answer (if only to tell them to bugger off!) nobody there! Not a weekend night so I don't think someone pissed and got wrong place but who knows!

Really bloody annoying though!!

Nat6999 - I am very strict about who I let in - that's the whole point! But I've had times where the caller or neighbours have got arsey about me not letting people in - and that's even though we've had several breakins! (Rough area) have you had that issue?

The only thing with a buzzer entry and only a tiny slot to display name is I can't put up a "no cold callers" notice - wish I could!!

We get em ALL - sales people, religious, politicians... Argh!

So no YANBU at all - especially the kid and the dogs, as you say your kids are grown and off at this point you want to chill once you're home from work.

My parents wouldn't let us call on people like that without the people we'd be knocking at saying it was ok. I'm 47 so my childhood very much pre-empted mobile phones BUT there were rules/manners about knocking for friends - never before 9am or after 9pm, never at mealtimes and never if someone in their household was unwell/recovering from injury. Fair enough I think.

The places we lived usually had a park or green where the kids would meet up to hang out/play after about age 12 we'd deny we were playing but we were 😂) so not really necessary to call on each other but we would if we were out and nobody else had come out and we were bored (or about to batter annoying siblings 😂)

"Same for phones - landline and mobile. Don't know the number? We don't answer. If it was important they'd leave a voicemail. They never do." I WISH I could do this (have raised the issue on mn before)

I have elderly/sick relatives and our local hospitals etc come up as "number withheld/not known" plus this also means I don't like to put my phone on completely silent. I'm a light sleeper so vibrate is enough to wake me but if a call isn't important it doesn't fully wake me if that makes sense? Rouses me enough to check the details, MAYBE answer in case it is one I need to take but if I know without answering (because it's from a country I don't have family/friends in) it's spammy I just silence it completely and go back to sleep. If it was on properly I'd be properly woken (that's very convoluted hopefully you lot know what I mean)

Some of my loved ones are in other countries too so I can't even just block international calls. Couple days ago a call at 5.45am from sodding Switzerland! Wtf!!

"I don't expect DH to inform me every time he places an internet order, so it would make me a bit of a twat to ignore the door because it isn't my parcel being delivered."
To be fair I think most people when they say "unless I'm expecting something" mean unless the delivery or whatever is for a person in their household.

My dd does as a courtesy let me know when she's ordering something so I know to answer and take it in. But I refuse to take in deliveries for neighbours and delivery drivers can be really sneaky/aggressive! I've had them tell me it's for me/my household and then I've realised after I've taken possession of it it's not! I've even had them try to throw parcels I'm refusing to take into my hallway!

So now I check through the peephole too!

If they weren't such arses about these things we wouldn't have to be so strict!

"I always answer my door. Everybody I know answers their door. I wish I had such a terribly important life like most people on Mumsnet pretend to that I would be too busy to spend 20 seconds taking in a parcel like a normal human being" well aren't you LUCKY that FOR YOU it isn't an issue. For ME (and I'm sure the other pps have their own reasons too!) answering the buzzer is DIFFICULT both physically and mentally. I have a physical disability that means both that it's painful AND I am not exactly speedy! I also don't cope well mentally with unexpected events - but people who we know are calling either know this because they know me/us or if it's a delivery I've advised them in the notes that it can take me a wee while and to be patient.

It's NOT about me thinking I'm "more important" than the callers or my neighbours and frankly that insinuation is bloody insulting to those of us with good reasons to not answer the door. But that my health means it IS difficult it IS inconvenient! Especially that first Christmas when on one occasion I had EIGHT deliveries for other people in one day! It's ridiculous!

I have experienced delivery drivers and neighbours apparently thinking THEIR needs ARE "more important" than my difficulties though - suspect you are of this ilk!

"To those who do this, I ask, have you never had an emergency where help from your neighbour would really really get them out of a hole?" Only when there was a fire and then a scream through the letterbox worked fine! Absolutely NO NEED for people to regularly call on others unannounced!

I've helped many in need as an ex nurse, I've performed cpr and other first aid on neighbours etc but using that scenario as an excuse why people "must" answer their doors is ridiculous! In an emergency you can of course also phone, knock more insistently - if a GENUINE emergency.

But let's be honest - most of the time it's not! Most of the time it's cold callers/religion/politics/deliveries not for your household.

Off topic but can I also say I also really get annoyed at mners who don't organise a proper username! This user12345 nonsense gets on my nerves.

Not everyone has nice neighbours either! Mine are shit! I never once got thanked for all those parcels I took in, got moaned at for not realising one should have come as 2 parcels and only 1 had been delivered (1 how the hell was I supposed to know and 2 it's not my bloody responsibility!!) and the ones above me are noisy selfish gits who I've had to get police involved to stop harassing/threatening me!

GingerIvy - those ones above me I've had similar issues (forgetting their buzzer key and buzzing me, their callers buzzing me) why do they do this?! So rude!!

I've had great neighbours in other places I've lived. They ASKED first before arranging deliveries to my address if that was more convenient for them, said thanks, did favours for me too and were lovely to dd. They didn't call round without at least a quick text first and were patient with me taking time to answer door.

"Suzie, the local Kingdom Hall should take you off the list for JWs." SHOULD! They don't always - I've called and told them 3 times now and still get buzzed by them! AND even if it's not me buzzes them in they knock at the flat door too!

ShowOfHands · 11/09/2019 19:22

None of you are anti-social. You're unsociable perhaps. Unless I've misunderstood and you're throwing buckets of piss at unwanted callers.

Leaspr · 11/09/2019 19:27

I ignore the door as much as possible! In fact I’ve gone out of my way to pretend I’m not home on many occasions! Blush
I love to be left alone and love my own space, undisturbed, at home. So YANBU at all imo!

MulticolourMophead · 12/09/2019 08:12

@Graphista you're not wrong on the politeness rules for knocking others when young. I'm 50 and we had similar rules about disturbing others.

I've lived in places where we had a large number of callers, so I'm really grateful that in the 10 months I've lived in this house I've had 1 unwanted caller, it's so peaceful. Long may it last!

BlueManakin · 12/09/2019 09:31

Last summer two men knocked on my door while I was at work. I live alone so when no one answered the door they went round to the back of the house and broke in. My dog scared them off so it could have been so much worse (she was unhurt). I've always answered the door when I'm in the house but after the break in I got one of those doorbells that let's you talk to whoever is outside from your phone wherever you are.

RedHelenB · 12/09/2019 09:34

@Dieu I cant get over how stressed people get about the tiniest of things!

Just answer the door, it takes 2 seconds!

BloodyDisgrace · 12/09/2019 10:22

I like you! And you are doing great not answering anything you don't want to. I never would get out of shower or answer the phone if I'm eating. When I expect a delivery (they usually text) I know and I'm around. But any other crap - no.

Charity people have seen my back through the window, sitting there slurping soup for lunch and not stirring to their knocks.

Hope you can carry on ignoring the bastards. And root out any stirring of guilt please.

ReanimatedSGB · 12/09/2019 10:53

I used to be one of the pests myself, you see. Had a job working for one of the market research companies. And I was so careful to check for signs saying 'Do not disturb'; I never knocked more than once, we had strict rules about not working any later than 8pm - or before 9am. (And we would be reminded, every October, that if we were working on the 31st we were to stop by 4pm.) And I always apologised for disturbing people and accepted a refusal politely.

And there were people who were happy to see me, because they were stuck at home and bored, or because whatever the survey topic was, they had Views on it they. wanted to share...

serenoa · 12/09/2019 13:51

OP, if you receive a letter from the Office for National Statistics telling you that an interviewer will be calling, the letter will also say that you can refuse to be interviewed, it's entirely up to you.

You will find out after that the ONS will pursue you to a degree that amounts to harassment. I've been through it with those fuckers, and had to threaten them that if they pursued me any further, which they know is illegal, there was a young BBC journalist ready, eager and waiting for her big opportunity. That worked, finally.

missmouse101 · 12/09/2019 14:29

@serenoa, I am a field interviewer for the ONS, and it is categorically not the case that you would be 'pursued' after you had clearly refused to take part. A refusal is most definitely a refusal. If people do not answer their door, or do not respond to the advance letter or say they are busy at the moment etc, then we are required to call again, as the work we are doing is essential and all households must be contacted and given an equal chance to take part.

We are simply asked, if possible, to find out the reason at the time, why households do not wish to take part. I am disgusted to think that you would call the ONS 'fuckers'.

I would LOVE, LOVE, LOVE to have a BBC journalist to talk to, to explain why we do what we do, and to produce a 'day in the life' article. In many countries, it's compulsory to participate. That's how important the work is.

RosaWaiting · 12/09/2019 14:51

missmouse101

again, sorry to be thick, but why is it so essential? I have been looking online and I can't see why. Do the ONS ever ask for volunteers?

RosaWaiting · 12/09/2019 14:51

PS "I would LOVE, LOVE, LOVE to have a BBC journalist to talk to, to explain why we do what we do, and to produce a 'day in the life' article."

I bet the BBC would love to put it on the One Show, or that type of thing.

brassbrass · 12/09/2019 15:08

Totally agree OP. I wfh so not ideal anyway in the middle of a conference call.

Sometimes I sneak a peek to see who it is before deciding if I can be bothered to engage with randoms on the doorstep.

lazylinguist · 12/09/2019 15:18

Everyone is different. Some love answering the door every ten minutes to those who are wasting their time, others hate it.

Nobody loves having their time wasted Hmm. I answer the door because at least 90% of the people knocking on my door are not there to waste my time. They are delivering stuff I've ordered or they are my dc's friends calling for them. Any canvassers or religious types are politely and calmly sent on their way. I am baffled by how many unwanted callers some of you must get, to be that annoyed about it. I guess it depends where you live.

burninglikefire · 12/09/2019 15:24

I came home one evening to find water coming through my ceiling - the tenant in the upstairs flat chose not to answer the door ........ :-(

Graphista · 12/09/2019 16:00

MulticolourMophead - and yet frequently on these threads there are mners who claim we all knocked at each other's whatever in "the good old days" it's nonsense! There were boundaries and etiquette then too!

"Just answer the door, it takes 2 seconds" for you it might! It certainly doesn't for me! Between physical limitations & ocd rituals it takes at least 5 mins and leaves me in physical pain for a good hour after!

Graphista · 12/09/2019 16:00

@missmouse101 THROUGHOUT this thread you have hijacked, merailrd, given ons the hard sell, dismissed pps comments and NOW I'm your post at 1429 you are outright accusing someone who is stating THEIR experience with ons - which you were NOT privy to! - of lying! Just pack it in!!

"the work we are doing is essential and all households must be contacted and given an equal chance to take part." MASSIVELY overinflated sense of your own and the jobs importance too!

NO it's NOT "essential' emergency services are essential, refuse collection is essential, nursing care is essential - asking people inane questions on consumerist topics is NOT!!

Hedgehogparty · 12/09/2019 16:24

I’m with you op.
I’ve got one of those door viewer spyhole things, great for checking who’s there.
We get cold callers who can be pushy - nice to check first.

missmouse101 · 12/09/2019 16:46

If answering people's questions is hijacking the thread, I'd better go then. Sorry @rosawaiting, I was going to answer your sensible question but I'll get a pasting. You can pm me if you want. Stats are essential for providing evidence for policy and decision making and directing resources to where they are most needed. Nothing to do with my self importance. Hmm

FrenchyQ · 12/09/2019 16:57

We have a no cold callers sticker on our front door, which really does cut down on the amount of people who knock...we also have a video door bell so can check who it is before answering

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