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To think Brexit has damaged the country's mental health?

269 replies

KennDodd · 09/09/2019 08:23

I know it's damaged mine but my job was under threat (colleagues lost their jobs instead) because of Brexit so not surprising. I think Brexit has caused huge stress, anxiety and anger in the country. David Cameron should be ashamed.

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Songsofexperience · 10/09/2019 08:37

Maybe it's a North/South thing, be here in the North, no-one seems to be too bothered one way or another.

Great, so let's revoke A50 and all get on with our lives then!
If the leave voting North doesn't care and the remain voting South is in panic over brexit it's quite obviously the way to go, isn't it?

Helmetbymidnight · 10/09/2019 08:37

Great, so let's revoke A50 and all get on with our lives then!
If the leave voting North doesn't care and the remain voting South is in panic over brexit it's quite obviously the way to go, isn't it?

Apparently so!

Helendee · 10/09/2019 09:00

Put Cameron .:trial for daring to allow a nation to decide whether it wants to regain its own soveriengty?

Helendee · 10/09/2019 09:01

Posted too soon!

Helendee · 10/09/2019 09:02

I was trying to say why on earth should Cameron face trial for allowing the citizens of the UK to vote to regain its sovereignty?
Am I missing something?

BogglesGoggles · 10/09/2019 09:06

Hasn’t really affected us but then again our parents lived through political situations that were actually bad so perhaps we are just a bit more resilient as a result of secondhand exposure. I must admit I couldn’t ever imagine having a mental health episode over something like brexit or job insecurity. I think I’ve just been raised knowing that the kind of security most people feel is completely artificial and very fragile so when things go wrong I’m not surprised. I suppose for some classes of British people it must be a shock to find that their own country is just susceptible to policsl change. I don’t really understand how that feels to come to that realisation but it must be very difficult (especially if you come to it later in life). If it’s any comfort brexit really isn’t much of a big deal in comparison to what other people have lived normal lives through. First world problems.

Thereisasystem · 10/09/2019 09:18

I was trying to say why on earth should Cameron face trial for allowing the citizens of the UK to vote to regain its sovereignty?
Am I missing something?

what exactly will you have 'regained' on Nov 1st that's been keeping you awake at night for the last 40 years?

ShatnersWig · 10/09/2019 09:18

Helendee Trouble is, those who say they wanted sovereignty back and Parliament to control things (not that it ever stopped, but that's besides the point) have seen it do precisely that over the last few weeks in particular - and they don't like it! They want Johnson and Cummings to do whatever it takes to enact "the democratic will of the people" - as long as they uphold THAT act of democracy, they're allowed to ignore other parts of democracy.

It's like Animal Farm. "All democracy is equal, but some democracy is more equal than others".

What it has shown is how few people actually understand how Parliamentary democracy works.

LizzieSiddal · 10/09/2019 09:19

I was incensed for months after the vote. Now I have become hardened and think 'sod it let the shit hit the fan I've got money in the bank and the only way people will now understand is if they fall on hard times'. I know that's probably wrong but I couldn't stay an angry remainer to protect my own MH.

This is where I’m at now. I’ve spent 3 years being upset, angry, writing letters, signing petitions. It’s affected my mental health- and it struck me a few weeks ago that I’ll be ok, we have enough money to last two years, and help our adult dc of needs be. So why the heck am I investing my energy into this when really there’s absolutely nothing I can do to change it?

And whilst Cameron is a fool to have called this referendum, as others have said the result was mainly due to 13 years of Labour, ignoring the working class, allowing unlimited EU immigration, without building the infrastructure, transport, health and schools for these EU citizens. Then we had a Conservative govt and austerity. A perfect storm for these forgotten people, to smack the political class in the face.

And still there are too many people who don’t understand what No deal would mean- the Critical thinking skills of many in this country are deplorable.

Gone2far · 10/09/2019 09:34

I think Parliament has done its job to protect us from a very poor decision
Was it a great decision to run a Referendum, and pass article 50? Seems like ineptitude to me.

Clementara21 · 10/09/2019 09:38

Yes I agree. It's definitely affected mine, more than anything else "outside" (ie. not relating directly to my loved ones and my day-to-day life) ever has. I am devastated at what has happened to my country and it's reputation for democracy, tolerance and decency.
I feel cross with Leavers because they are now exacerbating the shitstorm they've already caused with this awful prorogation of Parliament, I feel cross with people who "can't be bothered with it all" because they are wilfully burying their heads in the sand and not fighting it, and I feel so sad at the racism and hate this has brought to the surface. I also feel terrified at what the future holds - for the first time in my life I can honestly see Britain descending to some kind of dictatorship and / or civil war.
Brexit, Johnson, Cummings, Farage and the Daily Mail all culpable and definitely headed for Room 101 in my book.

plantingandpotting · 10/09/2019 09:47

On a personal note, the dramatic change in house prices where I live has meant I've lost a huge chunk of my life savings in the depreciation of my home.

It wouldn't be a problem if I could stay put, but we've just had our first child and we're in a one bed flat.

Very anxious about the future for lots of reasons, but where we'll live next and how we'll afford to move is a major concern right now.

I also work in higher education and can absolutely envisage job cuts within my particular field.

Thereisasystem · 10/09/2019 09:52

I hate that I'm obsessed with it all, it's exhausting and utterly depressing but so so important. Agree with anger at bloody leavers who 'cant be bothered with it all now' - tossers.

Gone2far · 10/09/2019 09:58

Cameron should be put on trial for what he has done but he wont, he'll get a Knighthood in few years times.
I wish I could let this lie. But could somebody tell me how Cameron could have enabled this disaster without the assent of our mp's?

Tenness · 10/09/2019 10:01

I'm in the north and it's constantly on towns community Facebook pages full of hatred and anger usually leave voters threatening local MPs

This is my experience too. I'm hoping that it's the same loud voices shouting again and again. If not, the level of anger really is worrying.

BrightonRox · 10/09/2019 10:04

Yes. It has done an awful lot of damage, emotionally, economically, politically...you name it. A massive clusterfuck that didn't have to happen.

Cheeseoncrumpets · 10/09/2019 10:08

They do shout very loud and get very angry don't they? You cant reason with them either, theres lots of talking in sound bites and parroting of phrases like 'will of the people' and ' out means out' and quoting the date of the referendum and the number of people who voted. My thoughts are that most of them just aren't very bright and are not capable of critical thinkinf or looking at the bigger picture.

Aflorable · 10/09/2019 10:10

It’s not damaged my mental health at all or anyone I know of. I voted remain in 2016.

I feel very detached from it all really. I don’t see how my life will change much from how it is now and I know a lot of friends and family feel the same regardless of how they voted in the referendum. It’s all just ‘what-ifs’ at the moment and rumours swirling. Perhaps when the ball starts rolling a bit more, things will change but currently, a lot of people I know aren’t fearing Brexit.

Aflorable · 10/09/2019 10:12

Cameron should be put on trial for what he has done
Why? He gave a referendum with the permission of MPs. He did the right thing because there was clearly public appetite for a referendum since leave won! I’ll always support politicians giving us a choice regardless of whether I agree with the result

Kazzyhoward · 10/09/2019 10:16

Brexit, Johnson, Cummings, Farage and the Daily Mail all culpable and definitely headed for Room 101 in my book.

Why not Brown and Blair?

Cheeseoncrumpets · 10/09/2019 10:18

Because they had nothing to do with this mess?

Typical Tory bot though. Blame the Labour party for everything...

Tenness · 10/09/2019 10:19

Why not Brown and Blair?

They didn't call for a referendum then campaign to leave without any plan whatsoever.

longwayoff · 10/09/2019 10:23

Agreed, cheeseoncrumpets, but that just makes them more dangerous. Beyond reason.

Outnumberedmumof4 · 10/09/2019 10:25

no one I know talks about Brexit they are more concerned about the disaster Corbyn and his communist team might cause

I’m in the SW and I’ve noticed this as well. Everyone I know is more worried about Corbyn than a no deal Brexit. That’s reflected in a lot of the polls

longwayoff · 10/09/2019 10:40

And mind numbingly ignorant. When will yellowhammer docs be released, does anyone know? Assuming they will be released.