To think Brexit has damaged the country's mental health?

[KennDodd]

I know it's damaged mine but my job was under threat (colleagues lost their jobs instead) because of Brexit so not surprising. I think Brexit has caused huge stress, anxiety and anger in the country. David Cameron should be ashamed.

My parents complained about the magic money tree when Labour were investing in public services and then bailing out the banks after the global financial crisis.
I've asked them where all the money being squandered on Brexit is coming from and asked if the tories think there's a magic money tree.

It really pisses me off when people come on here misunderstanding parliamentary democracy and spouting off about the 'will of the people'. We have parliamentary democracy to stop mob rule by people who are ill-informed or uneducated and so give in to the baser desires of human beings. If it was the job of MPs to blindly follow the wishes of their constituents we'd be back to the days of hanging and flogging people.

I have a family member who voted Leave on a whim because all her mates down her pensioner social club got all nostalgic and convinced her we can turn back the clock to a time that never really was but also keep all the benefits of the modern world as well. She won't suffer because she has a full state pension, a hefty work pension and a lot of equity but she still feels hard done by somehow. I love her a lot but deep down I am fuming at her recklessness and what it means for other family members. There is a culture and age war in this country now and I don't think there's any going back because people are so entrenched in their views.

"Culture and age war" I have to concede that you are right but please don't make the assumption that everyone over 65 thinks the same way, obviously there is a tendency but it isn't a given.

Yanbu. It has certainly damaged my mental health. I have a genuine sense of dread and feel extremely angry a lot of the time. There must be millions like me.

@Paintedmaypole Since you ask - the proposed right to buy for private tenants. That's basically state-sanctioned theft and all part of the 'property is theft' ideology. If that happened I would lose everything - my income, my pension and the inheritance that I am desperate to leave to the charity I care deeply about. It would also cause a house price crash and probably, as a result, a recession. That is without a doubt the most communist sounding policy proposal that has ever been put forward in my life time.

@Paintedmaypole, I really don't make that assumption. My own grandparents (both dead now, sadly, but would have been in their eighties were they still alive) would never have voted Leave because of their own life experiences. They lived through WW2 and were proud of the welfare state, had deep connections to Ireland and loathed any kind of Little Englander nonsense. They came from a poor background but were thinking people who loved history etc and never read tabloid newspapers.

bigsexycrimeunit I just get fed up of people making assumptions sometimes

thecatneuterer the first I heard about that was John McDonnell speaking on Sunday. I don't know how it is intended to work but if it involves compulsory purchase at a loss I agree it isn't on. I am not clear that is what it is. I do have concern about families having little security of tenure but I think the answer is more social housing. I will read more about it

Boris Johnson needs help I swear he’s not thinking straight about anything at all ... even his brother has resigned .... and he still carry’s on regardless 🙄

I'm a Labour voter but the right to buy thing is fucking insane. I'm so angry about it. I don't agree with the right to buy council houses, let alone private rentals. We need more social housing and secure tenancies and to prosecute rogue landlords so housing is up to scratch. We don't need to take people's hard earned nest eggs off them.

For those who say the 2016 referendum had to happen, no it didn't. What's the worse thing that could have happened if we hadn't held it?

More and more voters for a party that wasn't represented in parliament. How is that not a bad thing. I understand that some posters believe that these people shouldn't have a vote. But unfortunately for them, they do

The only time I've ever got annoyed with a Brexiteer is when one of them told me, quite seriously that she 'didnt care' about the situation in Northern Ireland and that it 'wasnt our problem' if hostilities broke out there because of Brexit.

In the whole time since the referendum I've only come across one Leave voter (both irl or ol) who gave a single shit about the peace in NI. The person you met was just reflecting the general veiw, Irl it just gets a disinterested shrug.

They have a vote though. I live in a Tory constituency where my vote counts for nothing technically. Sometimes these things are just hard cheese.

Ok, so the worse that could happen, if we hadn't had the referendum is more votes for UKIP. Now, what do you think are the worse consequences of no deal?

I’m actually not bothered if we leave or stay (It’s such a complex, multifaceted issue and I can see all sides of the debate) but it’s been bad for my mental health listening to people moaning and arguing about Brexit, people have become very narrow minded and I find that quite disturbing.

Your vote doesn't count because of our voting system big. Which is annoying - I'm in the same position . But it's different from asking all voters a question and saying you'll act on the answer then passing legislation to enable this, then standing in a GE saying you'll act of it.
And then saying it's too difficult.
As I said before, the ineptitude of our MPs is staggering. Topped by them spending 90 minutes of business flattering John Bercow this afternoon. They really have no idea.
Can I ask you a question kenn? How do you not realising the danger to a country of thousands of disenfranchised voters? It goes beyond the problems of No Deal.

It’s not Brexit per se which has damaged the nations mental health.

It is people’s attitudes. The fact that it is perfectly acceptable to violently criticise and bully people for exercising their democratic right to voice an opinion (on both sides).

Constant doom mongering (whether you consider it justified or not, there is nearly always a positive side to everything) claiming moral and intellectual superiority (actually very few people have taken the time to fully understand the situation, instead relying on sound bites - again on both sides -also reflective of the modern day phenomenon of lack of critical thinking).

In all honestly I think the divisions and problems which were already there have just been highlighted by Brexit, the lack of tolerance for people with different perspectives and indeed inability to comprehend that there is more than one way to look at things. People these days are so intent on being “right” they forget to be kind and respectful of other people.

But what is painfully obvious is society is becoming increasingly fractured and it is that which is damaging people’s mental health, well outside Brexit.

brexit is damaging peoples mental health- people are telling you this- and you are telling them what? they are lying.

what a horrible- unkind- attitude.

to people who will lose funding/jobs because of brexit- its not brexits fault its the fact that you cant see a different point of view.

ffs.

The constant Brexit whinge threads have definitely damaged my mental health!

Tory 'austerity', which was never about saving money and entirely ideological in nature, is what damaged the nation's mental health. Brexit was just the cherry on top. Nothing good ever comes from increasing the gap between rich and poor and decreasing social mobility.

lifeover posts an interesting, thought out response. And along comes the next poster hysterically over reacting and throwing allegations around. Perfectly demonstrating the situation we're in.

The constant Brexit whinge threads have definitely damaged my mental health!

Gosh if only there was a way one could see what the content of a thread was before opening.

Gosh if only there was a way one could see what the content of a thread was before opening.

With the Brexit threads you already know before you even click on them.

With the Brexit threads you already know before you even click on them

And yet here you are....more fool you.