To think Boris would win a general election

[HoneyIgrewthekids]

Well that really, Im a big remainer but I cant help but feel that at an election Bojo would win and win big. Its depressing and I cant see how anyone could vote for him but I see him winning a majority at the polls especially since the remain vote is split.

Aibu

I think Corbyn is just too old .....past a certain age he gets put into the trump part of the venn diagram

All of that stuff bounces off him, because he cocoons himself with his cronies - people like you, bluntly, who tell him it’s the “MSM”, the evil tories - anything except his own inadequacy and crap decision making.
You can’t hide as PM. Every day you have really clever people, at the top of their game, giving you complex information and expecting you to make really hard decisions. You have to function not just domestically but globally. And the hostile press and all the other stuff he copes with very badly now.
He isn’t up to it. Not remotely. He’ll either realise it in which case they’ll be carting him out in a stretcher within a fortnight. Or he won’t, and will blunder on, which is worse.

And if you think your representation of Johnson is any kind of approximation of his life right now - I’m sorry but that level of ignorance is just incredible. Do you know anything at all about the complexity of government in this country in normal times, let alone these ones? How is this level of ignorance possible?

I'm nodding along to what you are saying oil

Johnson isn't fit to rule. He puts his foot in it every time he opens his mouth. He has no regard for whole swathes of the population of the UK (Liverpudlians and Scots to name two groups), He cannot answer straight questions, but resorts to bullying tactics to get his way (so far failing). He treats running a country like it's the junior debating society at Elon where a few hand gestures, slick phrases and a few gags for the gallery are enough to get you voted the winner.
He is a self centred, egotistical misogynist who is lying almost every time he opens his mouth. Can't wait til he is slapped down by Parliament and sent on his way to 'spend more time with his family'.

Up until a week or so ago, I'd have expected Boris to win a majority in any election. I thought he was the right choice of leader for the conservatives as, although driven by self-interest, he always seemed charismatic and would help win voters back from the Brexit Party.

However, he has been diabolical this last week. Worse than May ever was. He looks dead on his feet, bumbling, incompetent and repulsive.

I've spent 3 years wishing Corbyn would sod off (still do) but he's had the better of Boris in the commons, both in terms of strategy and speech.

The only thing that can save Boris are his allies in the press.

Everytime I wonder if Corbyn would really be as bad as people say, I see people accusing him of made up stuff, using half facts and twisted truths.

Hear hear Littletabby

And yes, I am sure BoJo would have made a great prime minister if not for Brexit.
Just as great as he was at being Foreign Secretary

Poor old Jezza can’t get that level of perspective. I don’t think he could handle even a day of the punishment may took or Johnson is taking. He’s able to cocoon himself as leader of the opposition but you can’t do that as PM. I think he’d collapse very quickly and it’s actually unkind to wish it on him.

Poor old Johnson is looking increasingly dishevelled, shambolic and disgruntled. Hopefully he will resign soon and shuffle off to spend more time with his numerous love children.

Boris wants an election now because the Tories are currently benefitting from a 'new leader' boost. The reason why the Opposition want to get their bill through and delay things is because they know this.

The latest opinion poll from Yougov (compared to vote in 2017):

CON 33% (-11)
LAB 22% (-18)
LDEM 21% ( +14)
BREX 12% (+12)
GRN 7% (+5)
Other (mostly SNP) 5% (+2)

The pundits' best guess (ie, see www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html is that the Tories might have a narrow majority. But it's very hard to predict. They will probably lose all their Scottish seats to the SNP. However, in the Midland and the North they will win seats from Labour due to the latter's declining support, and this will offset the Scottish losses. Also, the Brexit Party will probably bleed support to the Tories during the campaign. 45% is enough for a huge majority in Parliament.

BUT - if the Opposition can delay things, Tory support might slump. In June it was in the low 20s and in some polls as low as 17%. That was because everyone was fed up with Theresa May's deal, but they know the Tories could end up as low as that again.

Legislate to prevent a no-deal, keep Boris in office stewing in his own juices, and then have an election would be best for the Opposition.

The nightmare scenario for the Tories is that the Brexit Party eat into their vote and:

• the SNP take all their seats in Scotland (this will happen anyway)
• The Lib Dems wipe them out in London and the South East and other Remain areas
• Labour mop up elsewhere.

It would mean a hung parliament, but one with a strong Remain flavour.

To give an example of what can happen in situations like this in the Westminster system is Canada in 1993. This is what happened to the Conservatives there:

1988: 43% of vote, 169 seats (a majority - they formed the government)
1993: 16% of vote, 2 seats (the end of them as a viable party).

You can’t hide as PM. Every day you have really clever people, at the top of their game, giving you complex information and expecting you to make really hard decisions

Which presumably is why May, and now Johnson have found it so hard

I'm ignoring the fact that your description of being PM sounds like it was written by a 10 year old

May demonstrated conspicuous resilience as PM, happiness, so I think you’ve failed to make your point there,
Whatever Johnson’s failings, he is an intellectual giant next to Corbyn, as their educational records demonstrate.

And thanks for the compliment on the simplicity of my communication style. It’s necessary when you’re trying to make yourself clear to the slow of wit, isn’t it?

May demonstrated conspicuous resilience as PM, happiness, so I think you’ve failed to make your point there,
Whatever Johnson’s failings, he is an intellectual giant next to Corbyn, as their educational records demonstrate.

😂

May looked like death for most of her time and was clearly not coping, I'm pretty sure she resigned in the end didn't she? 🤷‍♀️

And if Boris's parent had been poor he'd definitely have been in the bottom sets at the local comp 😂

Boris's brother doesn't think he'll win, Philip Hammond doesn't think he'll win, Amber Rudd doesn't think he'll win. how empty do the benches have to get before some people on this thread wake the fuck up

@360eyes

Get your dad to read this.

www.insidehousing.co.uk/insight/the-rise-and-fall-of-council-housing-56139

@bombomboobah Why are you saying Corbyn is too old? Hes not 75 yet which is what the Tories eventually want the retirement age to be!!!!!!!!

Boris's brother doesn't think he'll win, Philip Hammond doesn't think he'll win, Amber Rudd doesn't think he'll win. how empty do the benches have to get before some people on this thread wake the fuck up
I think they all think he will win but don't want to be associated with it. Boris's Party isn't the Conservative party of years gone by.

He will win because its a race to the bottom.
British politics are a shambles

and the collective hard on the UK public has for posh people.

Hopefully not

www.tactical-vote.uk/?fbclid=IwAR1sRwdvgXb0R9De0gGjcd3Yq7wfyKfrA2HpwBd-igJZp1jL0c2tRYkrTxw

and the collective hard on the UK public has for posh people.

Either that or we just don't believe in far-left class war.

Examples please

Corbyn is not far left. He seems it because the overton window has moved so far to the right.

But far right depressing the poor and vulnerable is OK?