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Wedding invite - no children

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FunkySnidge · 01/09/2019 22:42

Aibu?
Wedding invite but children are not invited unless they have a role in the wedding or are babies. This means that our kids are the only kids from our side of the family who will not be invited. In fact as it's not a big family they are the only relatives not invited.
We now don't really want to go. Our kids really value family events and they can't be fobbed off, they prefer this kind of family thing to a substitute treat.
If we go we will have the faff of organising house pet child sitter, and then the expense of travel and accommodation... During a school holiday. Tbh I would prefer to just go on hol with my kids and let someone else who is closer to the wedding couple enjoy the day.
It's not my family it's dh so I'm giving him space to say what he wants and haven't said my view yet. He has indicated he thinks it's unfair to go without our kids as they will literally be the only family members from our side excluded and he doesn't agree.
Should we get over it and go or do we have a point and should just decline graciously and send a lovely pressie.

OP posts:
DecomposingComposers · 03/09/2019 19:28

So when the family next get together after the wedding, and the children start talking about how much they enjoyed themselves at B&G wedding, or what the bride looked like or how funny it was when Auntie Mavis got drunk and fell over, and OPs children twig that they were the only ones not there will B&G explain to them why they chose not to invite them? You know, being as it's all so justifiable and ok to do this?

Or is it down to OP to think of some excuse? It can't be no children were invited, or only older children or only babies can it, because none of that is true. So how do you explain to these 2 that they were the only ones in their family not invited?

Dollymixture22 · 03/09/2019 19:30

But the only other children are the nieces of the bride? Surely they get to be at the wedding over cousins one removed?

Th other cousins once removed are either adults, who should know better, or babies who can’t talk??

DeeM7 · 03/09/2019 19:31

YANBU personally id politely decline. I wouldnt want to leave my kids for that long

ScrimshawTheSecond · 03/09/2019 19:31

I would expect the couple should understand that if they make it kid-free some people won't be able to come.

MrsRantyPants · 03/09/2019 19:32

Jesus wept, not this again. Its literally your choice, as it is the B&Gs choice to have THEIR wedding how THEY want. Don't like it? Don't go. Fancy a day of just adult company? Then go!

Can't understand why there's so many threads on this subject. Its really not difficult.

And the "they clearly don't care about you or your family OP" posts are goady and untrue. It's nothing to do with not caring about you, its simply about them enjoying their own damn wedding the way they want.

I really wish I'd listened to my own advice there ^
I spent my wedding planning/wedding day stressing about how to please and satisfy every fucker else except myself and DH. I regret it.

Dollymixture22 · 03/09/2019 19:33

My aunt had no kids at her wedding , apart from my sister who wa her flower girl. I was about four. Thirty something years later and 5is is the first time I have given it a second thought!!

I was clearly clearly not as sensitive as the children of today😂😂

ALoadOfTwaddle · 03/09/2019 19:33

Just don't go. And say you aren't going because your kids aren't invited. No point pussy-footing around the issue.

Scotland32 · 03/09/2019 19:36

YABU. Why should your children be invited? It’s up to the bride and groom who they invite. You are at liberty to decline the invitation if you have issue with it. Or go and enjoy yourself.

ALoadOfTwaddle · 03/09/2019 19:36

Edit:

Just don't go. And, if asked for a reason, say you aren't going because your kids aren't invited. No point pussy-footing around the issue.

bmbonanza · 03/09/2019 19:38

Just say no thanks. Go somewhere you feel more welcome.

ICouldntHelpButWonder · 03/09/2019 19:47

It's the prerogative of the B&G who they invite. I don't understand this expectation that children should be at weddings, for so many reasons. And I say this as someone with 2 kids, who doesn't have family who can babysit.

It's a long, formal, boring day for kids. Depending on age they can be very disruptive and some parents are crap at removing them. It's very unfair to demand it of a couple with no kids of their own, plus if the couple's guests have lots of children the numbers (and costs) will escalate quickly.
As a bride I certainly wouldn't bend my own preferences on my one wedding day for a couple who are only prepared to bother if their child comes too.

Then again, I apply the above to weddings assuming they're quite local, and a babysitter could reasonably be organised.

In your case: the wedding is far away and organizing 2 nights childcare while other kids ARE invited seems quite a big ask. So I think fair enough if you politely decline.

TellMeWhoTheVilliansAre · 03/09/2019 19:49

*TellMeWhoTheVilliansAre

But you didn't invite all of the cousins from one side of the family, bar 1 did you?*

Actually, I fibbed a little. There are 3 families of cousins on my dad's side. I invited all cousins from 2 families (9 cousins) and no cousins from the other family (2 cousins). So yes, I did exclude cousins from the same 'side' as others who were invited.

It wasn't about sides, or keeping everything even, or all or nothing etc. We invited people we most wanted there.

Some came, some had to decline.

Harls1969 · 03/09/2019 19:49

Up to them who they invite. Up to you whether you go or not. Maybe DH can go by himself?

Goodlookingcreature · 03/09/2019 19:50

My wedding is totally child free, not even babies are wanted at it. I don’t really care if people decide not to come to our event that we’re paying for, and putting years of effort into because their kids aren’t welcome at it. Cest la vie.

Naillig222 · 03/09/2019 19:59

I think YABU. I'm in ROI though and not the UK. I think weddings here are different and the majority wouldn't have kids at them bar immediate family.

WombatChocolate · 03/09/2019 20:12

I'd have thought people would be able to accept that whilst they'd like their children to be invited, people choose not to invite them for whatever reason - that might be numbers and cost which mean children are limited,mor it might be because they just prefer an adult only or predominantly adult only event.

I think we'd agree the day is about the bride and groom so their choice. I can totally see why for practical reasons people with kids might choose not to go, due to difficulty of arranging child care, cost etc. I think those getting married understand that.

What I struggle to understand is when people refuse to go because they are offended that their kids haven't been invited and take it as some kind of sleight on themselves or on their overall family, when practicalities mean they could go. Even if some children are invited (because the bride and groom feel closer to them) and yours aren't, it isn't a great offense to you and your family. And as lomg as practical reasons don't prevent it, it's perfectly possible to have an adult day out.

I actually think that often when people turn the invitation down for non-practical reasons, they WANT to make a bit of a scene and show they are offended. They want to make it about them and their invitation not the bride and grooms weddi g.

People turn down wedding invitations for all kinds of reasons. There are often practical reasons or occasionally because they don't like the people. Even when the bride and groom have invited people to come a long or to do something inconvenient such as soending a lot or leaving their children, most people manage to decline without feeling a need to go into things about the invitation that they object to or offend them, but just decline politely. Some people are determined to make a battle or fight out of it and worsen the relationship and make it about themselves. They reall Y want the bride and groom to realise they have caused offence or upset.

In this scenario Op, fine don't go if you do t want to have an adult day out. Fine if it's not practical or you aren't interested in these people....but try to move beyond feeling cross that some children were invited and yours haven't been. And definitely resist the urge to say this is why you a rent coming even if you put it in faintly veiled terms. Rise above that.

And definitely don't talk to your kids about the mean relatives leaving them out. That really isn't going to help anyone. Instead use it as an opportunity to simply explain that often people can't invite everyone to parties and it's not an offence to them.....they will have many times in life where they're not invited to things and it's good to get to grips with this sooner rather than later and not take offence. But unfortunately parents who easily take offence usually teach their children to do the same too.

Thehappygardener · 03/09/2019 20:18

Dear FunkySnidge

You are not being unreasonable. I think that a lot of people here have not properly read your post. You are upset because your children are the only family children not to have a role in the wedding, so aren’t invited. You are not saying that children should always be invited, you are saying that on this occasion your children are being specifically excluded. It would, I suspect, be quite simple for the bride and groom to ease things over and have a couple of extra flower girls or whatever, and so include your children. Family weddings are just that, for the bridal couple AND families in many cultures.

Last week, I went to my cousins wedding and I was the only relative not to be invited to the actual ceremony, although I was invited to the (very expensive) meal. I had thought that we got on well but clearly I was mistaken, as only ‘special’ friends and relations were invited to the ceremony. Quite a few people went to the ceremony, which was said to be lovely and which people raved about during the meal (!), and far fewer people including me, mainly work colleagues, just went to the meal after the ceremony.

It was hurtful to be excluded from the family oriented ceremony, bearing in mind the numbers involved, and on reflection I wouldn’t have gone to any part of the wedding had I thought it all through.

Yes, weddings are for the bride and groom, but as I said earlier, in many cultures, it’s accepted that families are also involved 🌺

LightDrizzle · 03/09/2019 20:21

“People forget that hosting, good hosting, is all about the needs of your guests - it’s a giving thing ( like the pleasure that comes from giving a gift).”

  • Perhaps this bride and groom think that the majority their guests, the friends, parents and siblings they are closest to, would enjoy the wedding more if they can hear the vows and the speeches, dance on the whole dance floor, chat to each other without interruption.
At one friend’s wedding, the vicar had to stop the service and remind parents it was a church and a religious sacrament was taking place. The children were literally racing around the church squealing. Two different weddings had screaming small children during the speeches and instead of taking them out, the mum in one case, dad in another, did that annoying thing of standing near the door jiggling them but didn’t actually leave the room. Another the groom’s nephew was running around the circular tables screaming (happily) during the groom’s speech with dad looking on proudly at his little character. The groom actually stopped and paused and referenced little Daniel making himself known to everyone. The pause was long enough for everyone to get the hint, everyone except the groom’s brother who just laughed and did fuck all. Maybe all these people remembering the lovely child friendly weddings of their youth, aren’t factoring in modern parents whose own FOMO and obliviousness means that their children dominate proceedings, and of course nobody else dares to try to intervene because that would be WW3. Many parents (I include myself) find the reality of taking their children to weddings less lovely than the idea, I’m sure my friend would have preferred to have a ball with the rest of us at her sister’s amazing reception, rather than tag teaming with her fiancé in walking their overwrought and beside herself two year old around the streets outside. Her sister, also my friend, would probably have preferred to have her sister, and Matron of Honour, more present that day. It up to the bride and groom as to what they do. They can’t possibly please everyone. However 8 hours at a wedding is too much for most children, it’s so boring for them. I reckon it’s often not about their needs or happiness, it’s about the parents wanting to show them off to the wider family and guests in cute outfits and making sure they are on the photos.
LaurieMarlow · 03/09/2019 20:32

People forget that hosting, good hosting, is all about the needs of your guests - it’s a giving thing ( like the pleasure that comes from giving a gift)

But why should that be all about the needs of guests who are parents?

What about the guests who don’t have kids/aren't taking their kids and who’d like to hear the service, not be interrupted by kids running around, have more of their circle of school/uni/work friends invited instead?

HeadintheiClouds · 03/09/2019 20:34

People forget that hosting, good hosting, is all about the needs of your guests
If one if those “needs” is the requirement to enlarge the guest list that the b & g have every bloody right to draft themselves, then it should be completely disregarded.

Why should anyone’s wants and needs be pandered to at all? If it doesn’t suit you as it is, politely decline, don’t think you just have to supply a list of demands and the whole thing will be rejigged to suit you.

celticprincess · 03/09/2019 20:38

We went to a wedding of a cousin once and left out 9 month old behind. It was a no child rule. We were really put out when we got there to find other babies there - apparently their need to breastfeed over my need to bottle feed was why they got invited, oh and they had to travel further. We all travelled and stayed overnight so I’m not sure distanced really mattered that much as flying 2 hours and driving 3 hours is neither here nor there. Oh and the other baby in attendance was a friend and not family like us.

I’ve nothing against the adult only rule but do get annoyed that there are too many exceptions. For this I’d decline in future. We had a no children rule for the daytime with one exception only and that was a toddler nephew who was out late boy. We invited wider family in the evening and the adults who came to the day part then did bring their children to the evening do. The day part was very long. 10am wedding, photos at the wedding venue and then on to reception venue for more photos and the meal and speeches and not the environment for kids really added with the cost of feeding kids. There was also a few hours break before the evening due to timings. His family had masses of child/teenage cousins. They mostly lived locally and all enjoyed the evening do when they came back with their kids. One friend travelled a distance and was happy to come without their children.

If I was to remarry now (we divorced many years ago) I’d struggle with the child only thing as I have lots of friends and family with children. Back when I got married first time most of my friends didn’t have children.

TellMeWhoTheVilliansAre · 03/09/2019 20:42

You are upset because your children are the only family children not to have a role in the wedding, so aren’t invited.

Her children aren't immediate family though. The groom is her husband's cousin. Her husband might well be the grooms one and only cousin but she has no idea how many cousins with children the bride has. And if the couple make exceptions for one cousin, other cousins will have their noses out of joint!

No matter what you do you can't please everyone. So they should simply please themselves.

LaurieMarlow · 03/09/2019 20:43

apparently their need to breastfeed over my need to bottle feed was why they got invited, oh and they had to travel further. We all travelled and stayed overnight so I’m not sure distanced really mattered that much as flying 2 hours and driving 3 hours is neither here nor there

Perhaps it’s just me, but I totally get why their baby was prioritised over yours.

celticprincess · 03/09/2019 20:50

@LaurieMarlow I don’t think any baby should have had priority. Babes in arms, shouldn’t matter how they are fed.

LaurieMarlow · 03/09/2019 20:53

i don’t think any baby should have had priority. Babes in arms, shouldn’t matter how they are fed.

Well if possible, of course I agree.

But if you had to prioritise, yes it does matter how the baby is fed. Surely you see this?

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