to think MN is being infiltrated by Huns?

[BendyLikeBeckham]

So much love, babe, hun and xxxx on here lately.

I'm getting viper withdrawal.

Am I imagining it?

Thanks in advance x

So at the risk of sounding terribly condescending

Risk assessment: 100%.

I'm not sure why you're showing me a post of yours from Saturday, green.
I just passed comment on your post today where you claimed that you'd been subconsciously signing off with a 'x' because of archaic Christian traditions but just didn't realise it until you googled its significance.

Arch wit, my arse. Posting one sentence responses that always paraphrase to "you're fucking pathetic" is apparently wit these days.

Quite.

Or one word and an emoticon...

This reminds me of all those threads a few years back about 'chavs'. Class war and snobbery still alive and well on MN!

What has class to do with hunnery, @obligations?

This thread isn't about chavs and I find that word and your comparison offensive.

I didn't say it was about 'chavs', I didn't endorse that word, I said it reminds me of threads when people on MN used that word (and the adjective 'chavvy') freely. It reminds me of that in terms of posters asserting their supposed superiority over another group described and invented by the media in terms of the policing of language and the enforcement of boundaries of who does or doesn't belong on Mumsnet, with this talk of infiltration, mindset etcetera.

@obligations 🙌

(And yes, I’m bloody well using emoji’s that are not not on MN, skin me alive!).

Leftielefterson thanks hun XXX 😘😛🙌🏾

@obligations I am struggling to see what point you are trying to make with that odd description.

And can you answer my first question about class war?

Good point well made, obligations

To be fair to obligations they aren’t the first person who mentioned class on this thread. I forget the poster but it was a long, faux-intellectual post using the term ‘proletariat’ (which if I remember correctly is an outdated term that means ‘working class’)

I just wrote a post and lost it

Anyway, gist was that several PP supposedly supporting hunnery have mentioned class and snobs but I don't see how that is linked, and nobody has explained it to me when I've asked.

In fact, those references indicate snobbery on their part to me!

The posts went something like "stop bashing the . They are tolerable/pleasant/poor/uneducated but not their fault and I don't mind them because I'm tolerant and like diversity."

I bloody adore Love Island btw! Not even joking.

Bendy
I agree with you.

I was the one who made the Love Island comparison by the way but please take it as tongue in cheek. Besides, I can’t talk as I love Made in Chelsea

@ethelfleda

Besides, I can’t talk as I love Made in Chelsea

But not TOWIE?!

Snob!

Real Housewives of series are brilliant.

Bit sad that JK has been cancelled! And I love Take a Break Not being ironic.

I digress the thread...

BendyLikeBeckham ok - seeing as you asked - in my experience/reading, 'huns' is a stereotype of lower middle class or working class women who express themselves in particular ways deemed overly sentimental/emotional/coy/stupid by others, the others being people who espouse values typically associated with the middle class/upper middle class including restraint/straight-talking/plainness in expression.

The idea that 'lower' classes are somehow excessively expressive in manner/speech/clothing has a long history in Britain (and elsewhere). It's often rooted in supposedly Protestant values and this idea of lack of restraint/overly-decorative expression (in speech/clothes/interiors/whatever has for a long time associated 'lower' classes/'others' (eg, Irish, 'foreigners', 'non-u') and denotes a lack of continence/inability to rule themselves/not to be trusted/undesirable etc. It's a phenomenon that has been analysed for decades by various cultural historians/anthropologists/sociologists (eg Bourdieu in Distinction: A Social Critique of the Judgement of Taste, 1979)

That's what I mean by class war being alive - a snobbishness with long historical roots that seeks to assert superiority through championing certain taste in use of language (or whatever).

Oh - and the little square of brown is that when choosing an emoji, it's possible to change the skin tone from a default of pinkish-white to various shades of brown, sometimes used to reflect that the person using the emoji wants to express their skin tone. Mumsnet settings, however, doesn't support this so instead the default pink-white is used, with the chosen shade of brown appearing beside it as a small rectangle. HTH.

Oh - and the little square of brown is that when choosing an emoji, it's possible to change the skin tone from a default of pinkish-white to various shades of brown, sometimes used to reflect that the person using the emoji wants to expresstheirskin tone. Mumsnet settings, however, doesn't support this so instead the default pink-white is used, with the chosen shade of brown appearing beside it as a small rectangle. HTH.

Thank you!

And you really have helped.
Google wasn't particularly explanatory. They seemed to crop up randomly (with posters, when I asked, saying things like "Oh, they just happen").

I probably got a bit too obsessed with working it out, but I'm sure you've done wonders for my blood pressure everytime I see one of the things since I won't be stressing about what they mean.

LaMarschallin ha - no problem, stress no more! 🙌🏾

It works!
I looked at your post, thought smugly: " I know about those now!" and remained chilled

Mumsnet settings, however, doesn't support this so instead the default pink-white is used, with the chosen shade of brown appearing beside it as a small rectangle

not sure it's a MN thing, because I see it as it's suppose to be. I was wondering what people were saying about little rectangles.

This is what I see

@obligations Oh I couldn't disagree or laugh more! Though I admit I lost the will to read more live after your first paragraph. Straight talking is middle/upper class? And overly sentimental is lower working class? How are restraint and plain talking compatible? And lower classes being expressive in speech, yet your supposed upper classes calling out cunts is not expressive?

Tell the Queen that overly decorative interiors are not for her homes and she must be puritanical and bin the gold leaf. Tell Mrs Hinch she needs to glam up the spartan minimalism with some pops of colour because she should be more gauche and gaudy.

I am most definitely working class, and I deride the hunny wankery. And I refer you to my 'just call a cunt a cunt' comment early upthread. Vulgarity, coarseness, and expressive expletives are straight talking and only middle or upper class? wtf! Have you seen Geordie Shore?

Jeez, have you cut and pasted from a combo of different wikis? Total contradictory load of bollocks, hun. Is that straight talking/hunny/upper middle lower class enough?

@obligations but thank you for the helpful (and somewhat more succinct) explanation of the slice of toast!

sorry for the long rant, everyone else. Can we put the class argument on the shelf now, or are the worms crawling out of the tin?