to think MN is being infiltrated by Huns?

[BendyLikeBeckham]

So much love, babe, hun and xxxx on here lately.

I'm getting viper withdrawal.

Am I imagining it?

Thanks in advance x

@Sagradafamiliar u ok hun?

No I'm devastated 😭

@GinDaddy you make an interesting point and very eloquently. But I'd suggest that rather than a non-inclusive classist clique, a better analogy would be that of a club. Say MN is a book club. People join from all walks of life, with all sorts of opinions, and they discuss a huge range of different books (topics). The convention is that they should follow the rules of the club as members, both those rules are set out in a written constitution (the talk guidelines) and those that are unwritten and customary which form the culture and history of the book club. These are a condition of membership. Now, as the membership changes over time, the customary rules and culture will change, which is perhaps what is happening now.

I merely lament the changes because I'm more familiar and comfortable with the existing culture, having been a member for some years, and it forming part of the reason why I enjoy the club so much, because it appeals to my sense of humour, respect for kind honesty, and interest in varied topics.

Change is ultimately inevitable, and maybe I should embrace it in this instance, but it means that the book club is no longer the same one I joined, and it feels less like I belong here. I don't believe that is cliquey in the way you present it, unless the whole of MN is the clique, but there shouldn't be loaded words like mean girls, nastiness etc. I am absolutely not supporting any spite. I just think that new members of any club should aim to fit in and follow the rules of the club.

Perhaps that is unrealistic. But surely those who want to sprinkle sparkle dust on everything should know that MN is not the place for that?

But surely those who want to sprinkle sparkle dust on everything should know that MN is not the place for that?

Says who? It's an open forum and anyone can post what they want.

I have been on MN about 6 years now and the 'Mumsnet is changing and is dumbing down' threads have been happening all the way through.

But @NoSauce, it’s allowed to change and evolve. No one “owns” Mumsnet (except for the actual site owners, who are in it to make money as it’s a business) and no one has the right to tel other members how to post.

I don’t agree with what you are saying, so I’m having a discussion/debate/argument/whatever you’d like to call it with you. I’m not trying to silence you. I will defend your right to state your opinion and my right to disagree (within board guidelines). Certain people on here want to silence everyone who doesn’t fit in in their opinion.

Ultimately “Mumsnet the Business” are the only ones who can tell anyone who can or can’t post on here. They don’t care how many sparkly unicorns or huns are on MN because their money is just as good as yours or mine. It’s like expecting Boden or Waitrose to not let chavs shop there.

For PPs who keep mentioning class, chavs, education, advantage, snobbery etc. at no point have I said or do I think that using the words hun, or sparkly shit, text speak or xoxoxox are in any way related to class or education, or any other subject of prejudice. It is merely a writing style and attitude that isn't what I know 'MN' to be (though it is spreading). I think putting users of that writing style into a single socioeconomic group is more revealing about the snobbery and assumptions of the PPs mentioning it.

A hun is a pejorative term for a Rangers supporter/Protestant in Glasgow/West of Scotland (although I've heard Rangers supporters using the word to describe themselves ).

Keeping to the NM theme, one of their other nicknames is apparently the "Teddy Bears"

The equivalent pejorative term for Celtic supporters/Catholics is Tims.

To Glasgow's shame, there are still sectarian divisions in the city . Only a tiny (and hopefully reducing) proportion of people, but there nevertheless

Fuck me I didn't realise Netmums was living wit da angles in haven - no wonder.

And - amongst stiff competition - the OP wins 'most disingenuous post of the thread' award!

Of course forums change and evolve. But not being a fan of one huge sentence or the same old boring topics day after day with text speak thrown doesn’t make me wrong either.

What's up with Nethuns then?

You have a choice to make then nosauce. You either ignore the threads with the text speak and the same old boring topics and click on others or start your own thread of intellectual conversation.

It's just an Internet forum. If it doesn't meet your needs then don't use it. Find a subreddit or go to Gransnet or somewhere else.

Yes I guess you’re right NerrSnerr. That’s what’ll happen, posters will migrate elsewhere and it will a totally different site altogether.

I think lots of people will drift off to reddit etc. I couldn't give a monkey's about text speak etc but MN has always been a forum that centres women and children. It is political in that way. I have noticed lots of terrible advice lately basically encouraging women to run after the man who are treating them badly. Netmums the forum has a very weird culture around children's rights in my view.

As you can tell I am in no position to police grammar . The man who are treating them badly.

I give up. The men who are treating them badly.

I have noticed lots of terrible advice lately basically encouraging women to run after the man who are treating them badly.

That matters, and needs to be robustly countered.

The substance of MN, of it being a place where parents and particularly mothers, can get sensible advice is worth defending.

Wrong thread!!

@multivac please explain your last comment

I've seen a couple of recent posts that refer to the OP as "my love" or "darling" and it really bloody annoys me.

They are not your love. They are an anonymous poster on a forum. Stop it. Please.

You can express your sympathy/empathy for posters without resorting to this.

Lucafritz, you have just accidentally declared war on netmums.

I read this thread the other day - I’d noticed I’d been ending my posts with a ‘x’ - not because I’d been sending kisses - I remembered inadvertently doing this to my solicitor during my divorce and also my x

I’m going through all sorts at the moment - I believe there is a meaning to everything

I’ve just googled to see if any significance and I come across this

“Origins. The common custom of placing "X" on envelopes, notes and at the bottom of letters to mean kisses dates back to the Middle Ages, when a Christian cross was drawn on documents or letters to mean sincerity, faith, and honesty. A kiss was then placed upon the cross, by the signer as a display of their sworn oath.”

This is why I do it and have been doing it without knowing it’s true meaning - it seems on here that words are sometimes not enough - even though people are speaking “from the heart” it seems that others will judge, criticise, and go as far as to hound them off the site.

I speak for myself as to why I end with a x

The idea that a Christian symbol nowadays denotes 'sincerity, faith, and honesty' is controversial... best avoided on threads about school admissions or mandatory assemblies etc.

birdsdestiny.....Yes..."accidentally"