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To find this friend so difficult??

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butterfly220 · 30/08/2019 22:22

[name changed, sorry for the long post- trying not to drip feed. I feel like I have an endless amount I could say as this has been bothering me for so long!]

I have always thought I was quite a patient person but I am finding this friend really, really grating! I don't know if it's me, and I'm letting it get to me unreasonably or if this would get on the nerves of even the most patient person in the world!

We work together, and I can't really change that any time soon and in our context it would be very very difficult to distance myself.

Basically this friend will stick to me like glue for the entire work day- copying absolutely everything I do. I find this exhausting and very irritating, but when I try and call her out on it she always says she has low confidence and isn't sure what she's doing so I can kind of see why the copying is coming about (although I think she's perfectly competent and intelligent enough to do it on her own). But I do mean copying absolutely everything, like snatching things off me to see what I've written to write the exact same thing. I find I'm really doing her job as well as my own a lot of the time because when we are doing something different she'll bring things to me and ask me to do it- and then always takes any credit for herself I should add! I know I shouldn't let it get to me but when I've done something she's asked me to do, then someone comes and says to her that it was great etc. She'll just say "oh thanks!" even when I'm right there. I have tried to talk to her about this but she gets very emotional and always ends up with her making me feel bad or unsupportive. I feel like I spend 90% of my time trying to make her feel better, I often feel a lot like her counsellor and go home very emotionally drained. Everything is always very centred on her, for instance when she had a review at work (just general targets etc.) and it went well I thought it was a great opportunity to build her confidence and I went on about how brilliant it was, reiterating all the positive feedback etc. We talked about it for ages. Then when I had mine, I came back and as soon as I sat down she said please could I not tell her what they said because she didn't want to know what they'd said because she thought it would make her feel bad. I said okay and there was silence for a while as we worked and then she said can you just say yes or no to did it go well? I said it was fine and then she actually said "I don't want to sound like a bad friend but I think it'd make me feel a lot better about myself if yours hadn't gone well"Confused. It's always very focussed on her. If anyone says anything that's not 100% positive to her (even just a casual neutral comment) she's distraught and the entire day is spent trying to rationalise it with her. She is very negative which I find very draining. She normally greets me every day with "how are you?" Then when I say I'm fine and ask how she is she says "not great, I cried all night again." She always says this very matter of factly and kind of expectantly waits for my sympathy if that makes sense. She does keep saying she doesn't think the job is for her and I said I did think she should quit if it's making her feel so down but then straight away she's saying I'm saying that because I don't want to work with her/ I think she's crap at her job etc. So then I spend a lot of time reassuring her that that isn't true.

I think I could cope with this if it was just during work and I could escape from it at home but out of work she will message me all of the time asking me what I'm doing, who I'm with etc. If I don't immediately reply she will keep messaging me question marks, then I get "I'm getting really worried now, please respond." Then phone calls! Even if it's only been 10 minutes since her first text. If I reply and say, for instance, I'm out shopping. Then I'll get a barrage of questions about where, who with, what am I buying. She also always tries to invite herself to whatever plans I have. If I'm going to a friend's house- she'll ask if she can come. Despite never having met my friend. I have to politely explain that it's really just a catch up with an old friend and I didn't really feel like I could bring along someone who my other friend has never met. I was going to see a member of my family for their birthday- she wanted to come.

She is happily married and does have her own friends! I thought maybe she was just lonely and wanted to increase her social circle and thought maybe that would help, so I invited her to a meal out with a friend of mine a while ago and I regretted it so much so I'd really rather not do that again. She cried because they got her order wrong, and this made my friend very uncomfortable. She behaved quite oddly throughout, just was very intense. She also immediately added my friend on Facebook (along with other friends of mine that she's not met) and now messages her all of the time, similar to the way she messages me. At work she also keeps bringing my friend up as "her friend" when talking to other people (she's only met her this one time). I don't really care about this but it's just so odd. She also sought out other people in my life to "befriend" who again she's never met, like someone I used to work with really briefly who she messaged and asked for the phone number of?? My friends then ask me about it and I don't really know what to say or how to explain it. The thing is, she is a nice person and I know she does struggle with her mental health (she is on medication and having therapy) and I do want to be supportive and try and help her- it's just getting harder and harder. I don't think anything I'm doing is helping her because if anything she's getting worse!

She's quite a bit older than me (I'm mid twenties) but I often feel like I'm back at school because there's constantly some "drama" she needs consoling about. I basically want to know if I'm BU or overreacting (as she seems to believe, when I've brought anything up with her) or if anyone has experienced anything like this before and has any advice for coping with it? I'd like to be a good friend to her but also can't cope with the stress and drama this brings if it continues unabated!

OP posts:
Motoko · 25/09/2019 08:32

Don't feel bad OP, her tears are designed to gain sympathy, so she can get back to having you do her work, and to get support from others (who she will be telling how totally unsupportive and horrible you're being to her, and she doesn't understand what she's done to deserve it). It's all an act.

You still haven't said if she's still contacting you outside work.

Freddiemercuarysmoustache · 25/09/2019 08:52

she will message me all of the time asking me what I'm doing, who I'm with etc. If I don't immediately reply she will keep messaging me question marks, then I get "I'm getting really worried now, please respond." Then phone calls! Even if it's only been 10 minutes since her first text. If I reply and say, for instance, I'm out shopping. Then I'll get a barrage of questions about where, who with, what am I buying.

I literally could have written that i had a friend that did this with me everyday all day. Worse was she would end up chapping my door loudly till i answered and my neighbour once told me that a day i wasnt in and said friend was at the door chapping and shouting up my letterbox r u ok? I am really worried? Answer me? My neighbour ended up going out telling her i wasnt in. After 5 years i lost it and blocked her on everything it was so bad she still now and again chaps my door but i never answer.

butterfly220 · 25/09/2019 21:46

Sorry I didn't mean to evade the question, I hadn't realised I hadn't answered it.

She does still contact me a bit but I ignore it, she doesn't do it on the scale of before because I think experience has now shown I am not going to answer so it's pointless. I did block her for a while but I unblocked because I thought actually having the unreplied to messages stacking up in a long stream was quite good evidence of her behaviour in case I needed it further down the line.

She wasn't in today, as expected. I know she has another meeting with management tomorrow though.

OP posts:
SpaceDinosaur · 25/09/2019 22:48

You're doing so so well Butterfly. I can only imagine the mental load this has given you. The whole thing sounds utterly exhausting

PuzzledObserver · 25/09/2019 22:53

It sounds like things are moving in the right direction, OP. Stay the course!

CoraPirbright · 26/09/2019 08:52

You are doing so well OP. Stay strong!

butterfly220 · 26/09/2019 18:06

Thank you so much for your support!

I had a meeting with management this morning and they asked me what I thought should happen going forwards. I said I didn't think it was the right job for her (they agreed) but I knew there wasn't that much they could do about that! I suggested a few measures and this evening following colleague's meeting I have found they have set up every single measure I suggested. This made me feel so supported and like they really cared about my experience and trying to improve things!

Colleague will not be in for the rest of this week but will return next week but under the new measures put in place. Colleague was not at all happy about this, but they didn't let on that any of this was my idea. Next week will be so much better with the measures I wanted in place! I can't really describe what the measures are without outing what I do, but they will make dealing with colleague so much easier for me and put some much needed distance between us.

They very clearly understand now that she cannot cope in the job, so they have kind of demoted her. They have sort of stripped her of her responsibilities due to the fact she wasn't coping/actually fulfilling any of them. I felt bad for her because I know that's not what she wanted, but I do think it's the right thing considering the poor state of her mental health and her struggle to cope. Perhaps this will be a positive thing for her and she'll get a little better.

I guess we will see what happens! I am kind of in anticipation now to see what colleague will do next because it's very definitely not going the way she planned right now and she always seemed to have a bit of an agenda.

OP posts:
madmumofteens · 26/09/2019 18:11

What a positive update Butterfly I am so glad to hear you have managements support with this wishing you al the very best you deserve it 💐

Motoko · 26/09/2019 18:59

It's heartening to hear management are really listening to you, and giving you support. I hope the new measures work out.

1CantPickAName · 26/09/2019 20:45

Great to hear all is going well x

3luckystars · 26/09/2019 22:46

That is great news! Well done, you must feel so relieved.
Well done x

Binglebong · 27/09/2019 00:23

Really good to hear such positive news. Will you still be working with her directly?

Wallywobbles · 27/09/2019 04:32

An inspiring outcome really. Thank you for keeping us updated.

CoraPirbright · 27/09/2019 08:25

Really pleased for you OP and so glad that management are taking this all so seriously.

Dont let your guard down, though, and do keep all your evidence for a while yet because, as you say, she always seems to have a bit of an agenda.

Drum2018 · 27/09/2019 20:51

Good to hear. But please don't feel bad. I appreciate she has MH issues but the incessant messaging and slacking off at work, stealing your work, is simply unacceptable. Hopefully when she returns you won't have much to do with her at work and keep ignoring the messages so as not to get drawn into any more drama.

BadTigerKitty · 27/09/2019 21:49

I'm so pleased to read your updates. You've handled yourself so well in a difficult situation and, thankfully, it's paid off. I hope management continue to support you through the coming weeks and months.

Your relief is palpable!

JesusHRooseveltChristAgain · 30/09/2019 22:39

I'm delighted to read your latest update, it really sounds like management have been excellent and so supportive in dealing with this.
I hope all went well today with your colleague's return to work!!

user1471582494 · 31/10/2019 01:06

It's been a month now OP. How are things going now? Is she still there? Has she been signed off again? Have her days reduced?

Shooturlocalmethdealer · 31/10/2019 03:14

Learn how to say NO. Block her on Facebook. Delete her number block it as well. Stop helping her at work. Speak to management. Distance yourself even if you have to do this in baby steps. Her problems are her own they arent yours to solve. You have went above and beyond what a friend would do. This is exhausting and I wouldnt have lasted a second with her. Be strong and best wishes.

Shooturlocalmethdealer · 31/10/2019 03:14

Just read update. That's great.

DeeCeeCherry · 31/10/2019 04:29

Aiming to be a good friend to someone like that? What a waste of life and time. Perhaps explore honestly why you want her as a friend, because it's not a healthy dynamic thats for sure.

You can withdraw from this friendship - If you want to.

Mummyoflittledragon · 31/10/2019 04:53

I’ve just see in this thread is trending again. I hope all is well.

SomeoneInTheLaaaaaounge · 31/10/2019 05:11

Just wow - hope you are ok OP
Your employer sound very reasonable.

Jayaywhynot · 31/10/2019 06:03

Watching

Goldenchildsmum · 31/10/2019 06:25

This is an horrific thread. I hope all works out well for you @butterfly

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