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To find this friend so difficult??

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butterfly220 · 30/08/2019 22:22

[name changed, sorry for the long post- trying not to drip feed. I feel like I have an endless amount I could say as this has been bothering me for so long!]

I have always thought I was quite a patient person but I am finding this friend really, really grating! I don't know if it's me, and I'm letting it get to me unreasonably or if this would get on the nerves of even the most patient person in the world!

We work together, and I can't really change that any time soon and in our context it would be very very difficult to distance myself.

Basically this friend will stick to me like glue for the entire work day- copying absolutely everything I do. I find this exhausting and very irritating, but when I try and call her out on it she always says she has low confidence and isn't sure what she's doing so I can kind of see why the copying is coming about (although I think she's perfectly competent and intelligent enough to do it on her own). But I do mean copying absolutely everything, like snatching things off me to see what I've written to write the exact same thing. I find I'm really doing her job as well as my own a lot of the time because when we are doing something different she'll bring things to me and ask me to do it- and then always takes any credit for herself I should add! I know I shouldn't let it get to me but when I've done something she's asked me to do, then someone comes and says to her that it was great etc. She'll just say "oh thanks!" even when I'm right there. I have tried to talk to her about this but she gets very emotional and always ends up with her making me feel bad or unsupportive. I feel like I spend 90% of my time trying to make her feel better, I often feel a lot like her counsellor and go home very emotionally drained. Everything is always very centred on her, for instance when she had a review at work (just general targets etc.) and it went well I thought it was a great opportunity to build her confidence and I went on about how brilliant it was, reiterating all the positive feedback etc. We talked about it for ages. Then when I had mine, I came back and as soon as I sat down she said please could I not tell her what they said because she didn't want to know what they'd said because she thought it would make her feel bad. I said okay and there was silence for a while as we worked and then she said can you just say yes or no to did it go well? I said it was fine and then she actually said "I don't want to sound like a bad friend but I think it'd make me feel a lot better about myself if yours hadn't gone well"Confused. It's always very focussed on her. If anyone says anything that's not 100% positive to her (even just a casual neutral comment) she's distraught and the entire day is spent trying to rationalise it with her. She is very negative which I find very draining. She normally greets me every day with "how are you?" Then when I say I'm fine and ask how she is she says "not great, I cried all night again." She always says this very matter of factly and kind of expectantly waits for my sympathy if that makes sense. She does keep saying she doesn't think the job is for her and I said I did think she should quit if it's making her feel so down but then straight away she's saying I'm saying that because I don't want to work with her/ I think she's crap at her job etc. So then I spend a lot of time reassuring her that that isn't true.

I think I could cope with this if it was just during work and I could escape from it at home but out of work she will message me all of the time asking me what I'm doing, who I'm with etc. If I don't immediately reply she will keep messaging me question marks, then I get "I'm getting really worried now, please respond." Then phone calls! Even if it's only been 10 minutes since her first text. If I reply and say, for instance, I'm out shopping. Then I'll get a barrage of questions about where, who with, what am I buying. She also always tries to invite herself to whatever plans I have. If I'm going to a friend's house- she'll ask if she can come. Despite never having met my friend. I have to politely explain that it's really just a catch up with an old friend and I didn't really feel like I could bring along someone who my other friend has never met. I was going to see a member of my family for their birthday- she wanted to come.

She is happily married and does have her own friends! I thought maybe she was just lonely and wanted to increase her social circle and thought maybe that would help, so I invited her to a meal out with a friend of mine a while ago and I regretted it so much so I'd really rather not do that again. She cried because they got her order wrong, and this made my friend very uncomfortable. She behaved quite oddly throughout, just was very intense. She also immediately added my friend on Facebook (along with other friends of mine that she's not met) and now messages her all of the time, similar to the way she messages me. At work she also keeps bringing my friend up as "her friend" when talking to other people (she's only met her this one time). I don't really care about this but it's just so odd. She also sought out other people in my life to "befriend" who again she's never met, like someone I used to work with really briefly who she messaged and asked for the phone number of?? My friends then ask me about it and I don't really know what to say or how to explain it. The thing is, she is a nice person and I know she does struggle with her mental health (she is on medication and having therapy) and I do want to be supportive and try and help her- it's just getting harder and harder. I don't think anything I'm doing is helping her because if anything she's getting worse!

She's quite a bit older than me (I'm mid twenties) but I often feel like I'm back at school because there's constantly some "drama" she needs consoling about. I basically want to know if I'm BU or overreacting (as she seems to believe, when I've brought anything up with her) or if anyone has experienced anything like this before and has any advice for coping with it? I'd like to be a good friend to her but also can't cope with the stress and drama this brings if it continues unabated!

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Nottrueatall · 10/09/2019 18:26

She sounds like a master manipulator and stalker to boot.

I'd be worried if I were you. You need to keep a log of her behaviour and flag it with HR.

Explain to them about her stalking your FB pages and harassing your friends, etc. This is not normal behaviour.

Good luck.

Nottrueatall · 10/09/2019 18:32

@butterfly220, also meant to add, make sure you screenshot messages etc., and log everything so they can see how often she texts/calls you outside of work, constantly wanting to know what you're up to, etc, and that she is harassing you, and you're friends, which is causing you stress.

Keep as many records as you can and try to grey rock her so that HR can see it's one sided.

Totalwasteofpaper · 10/09/2019 19:03

Agree with the others this is the tipping point and she’s unhinged.

On balance, predict she’ll stay on sick leave then and try and claim constructive dismissal.
Buuuuut you should still be documenting everything- build a timeline with examples and tell management EVERYTHING and then put it in writing.

Please remember: You have every right to expect to work in a non-hostile environment.

insanepizza · 10/09/2019 19:38

Well done OP. I would never have suggested you find another job if you love it. It's her at fault.

Well done for speaking up and I hope the next few weeks give you light relief.

Are you totally ignoring her or are you going to one message ' Please don't message me while you are off with stress, you need to focus on getting yourself better and not be thinking about work'. This implies you would only be willing to discuss work things.

simplekindoflife · 10/09/2019 19:52

My goodness OP! I've just RTFT!! Shocking behaviour from your colleague.

Are you going to reply to her?

Motoko · 10/09/2019 20:02

There is no HR! Only management, who OP has said, can't do much about it.

WindsorDuchess · 10/09/2019 20:15

Well done OP in addressing the issue, I felt claustrophobic just reading it

Drum2018 · 10/09/2019 20:48

Please be careful what you say to the other supportive colleagues. Any one of them could be straight back to her letting her know what you're saying abut her. She could then be twisting this information to build a case of bullying. It's between you, her and management now so keep it there.

Alpacamabags · 10/09/2019 20:58

Second the being careful what you say! I've unfortunately worked with many people who I would class as close friends and learned the hard way that doesn't mean they won't pass on information

SandAndSea · 10/09/2019 21:12

Glad you're OK, OP.

TimeForNewStart · 10/09/2019 21:37

So did she not come in for her talk with management?

ReanimatedSGB · 10/09/2019 21:41

Bit late to the threasd but wanted to send you good wishes, OP. I once worked with a horrendously manipulative and dishonest woman, as well, and one thing I remember was the relief when I found out that other colleagues disliked and mistrusted her, and I wasn't a bitch for wanting to keep my distance.

billy1966 · 10/09/2019 21:45

Great update OP.

However, I too would be very careful not what you say.

I also think that because there is no HR there, it would be very helpful and forward thinking to make up a detailed file of all the shit you have been putting up with.

Specifically, her not doing her work, demanding you do it etc.

Constantly texting you outside work.

Contacting your friends.

The clearer the file you have with proof, copies of texts etc. the easier it will be for management to see your point of view.

Be prepared for the worst, hope for the best, every time👍

Crazyladee · 10/09/2019 22:41

Well done OP. I echo the other posters saying be very careful what you say to your other colleagues. You need to be one step ahead of your "colleague" until the issues are all resolved.

Babysharkisanearworm · 10/09/2019 22:50

Well done. The start has been made. The thing is, doing her work as well as yours, negates her being there.
The management wiĺl probably have heard it all before last time and to have two people with the same issue and one thing on common will be too much for management to ignore.
Enjoy the peace and no not contact her in any way until she returns. She realises she is on a sticky wicket which is why her timing is perfect. It is down to your manager to sort now. Give them updates on any form if contact.
There will be tears and guilt shifting but so what?
She is no good as a team mate if you are doing it all.

Snowpatrolling · 10/09/2019 23:02

Enjoy the next couple of weeks!
I agree with other posters, keep everything to yourself and don’t tell other colleagues. I unfortunately have learned the hard way with that one.

Lougle · 11/09/2019 08:25

Enjoy your breathing space.

RandomFactor · 11/09/2019 08:44

OP, you're behaving like a doormat, sorry. She's not your friend. If she asks for help at work say "Sorry, I'm busy with my own tasks right now" or "I'm rushed off my feet meeting a deadline, sorry!" If she asks how your appraisal went say "Brilliant, I think I'm in with a chance of promotion!" if she messages you, ignore. If she calls you ignore. If she asks why "I find you drain my energy, and I can't cope with such an intense relationship, please give me some space for a bit" - Block her on your phone and social media, and warn any of your friends she knows to do the same. Good luck.

MulticolourMophead · 11/09/2019 09:32

OP, you've got some breathing space now, and as others have said, use it wisely to document everything. Screenshots of messages, especially those to your friends, logs of all the times she's demanded your help, etc, etc.

I think the evidence that she's been trying to contact friends and people you know, without any work related reason, might just help your management to realise that she's not in a good place and definitely the one causing the issues here.

And documenting everything will help if she does decide to go for constructive dismissal. She won't get far when it can be shown she's been harrassing you and stalking your friends.

MaybeDoctor · 11/09/2019 13:32

I am an ex teacher and schools seem to be breeding-grounds for odd behaviour of this kind. I don't know if it is the pressure, the hierarchy, the emotional demands of working with children or the lack of direct supervision, but some personalities seem to grow and manifest in the worst possible light in the school environment.

At one point I had a TA who was writing down everything I said to my class, so that she could pass these notes to a relative who was a trainee teacher. There's observation and there's just plain spying!

I had a teacher colleague who covered my class one day per week, but who wanted to rearrange the furniture to her liking - not just tables and chairs, but cupboards and bookshelves. She was also extremely quick to go crying to the HT when anything happened that she didn't like.

Both of those situations caused me a huge amount of trouble and I wish that I had put my foot down sooner.

3luckystars · 11/09/2019 17:10

I hope your workplace look after you now and that this gets resolved soon. Well done, you are doing great.

bellainthemiddle · 11/09/2019 17:14

@MaybeDoctor with you on the teacher thing! My DP used to be a teacher and some of the things that went on between staff were seriously crazy!

Sweetdreamer93 · 11/09/2019 17:16

Was she spoilt growing up by any chance?

ktp100 · 11/09/2019 22:16

Hope you're enjoying your break from the grief, OP. This is a great chance to set up clear boundaries moving forward & to start recording all inappropriate interactions (asking you to do work/excessive messaging outside work etc) in case she comes back with a bee in her bonnet. Self protection in these situations is absolutely key. Well done for sticking up for yourself!

GossipGirlxoxoxo · 13/09/2019 01:33

Hope your enjoying some peace op! X

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