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To find this friend so difficult??

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butterfly220 · 30/08/2019 22:22

[name changed, sorry for the long post- trying not to drip feed. I feel like I have an endless amount I could say as this has been bothering me for so long!]

I have always thought I was quite a patient person but I am finding this friend really, really grating! I don't know if it's me, and I'm letting it get to me unreasonably or if this would get on the nerves of even the most patient person in the world!

We work together, and I can't really change that any time soon and in our context it would be very very difficult to distance myself.

Basically this friend will stick to me like glue for the entire work day- copying absolutely everything I do. I find this exhausting and very irritating, but when I try and call her out on it she always says she has low confidence and isn't sure what she's doing so I can kind of see why the copying is coming about (although I think she's perfectly competent and intelligent enough to do it on her own). But I do mean copying absolutely everything, like snatching things off me to see what I've written to write the exact same thing. I find I'm really doing her job as well as my own a lot of the time because when we are doing something different she'll bring things to me and ask me to do it- and then always takes any credit for herself I should add! I know I shouldn't let it get to me but when I've done something she's asked me to do, then someone comes and says to her that it was great etc. She'll just say "oh thanks!" even when I'm right there. I have tried to talk to her about this but she gets very emotional and always ends up with her making me feel bad or unsupportive. I feel like I spend 90% of my time trying to make her feel better, I often feel a lot like her counsellor and go home very emotionally drained. Everything is always very centred on her, for instance when she had a review at work (just general targets etc.) and it went well I thought it was a great opportunity to build her confidence and I went on about how brilliant it was, reiterating all the positive feedback etc. We talked about it for ages. Then when I had mine, I came back and as soon as I sat down she said please could I not tell her what they said because she didn't want to know what they'd said because she thought it would make her feel bad. I said okay and there was silence for a while as we worked and then she said can you just say yes or no to did it go well? I said it was fine and then she actually said "I don't want to sound like a bad friend but I think it'd make me feel a lot better about myself if yours hadn't gone well"Confused. It's always very focussed on her. If anyone says anything that's not 100% positive to her (even just a casual neutral comment) she's distraught and the entire day is spent trying to rationalise it with her. She is very negative which I find very draining. She normally greets me every day with "how are you?" Then when I say I'm fine and ask how she is she says "not great, I cried all night again." She always says this very matter of factly and kind of expectantly waits for my sympathy if that makes sense. She does keep saying she doesn't think the job is for her and I said I did think she should quit if it's making her feel so down but then straight away she's saying I'm saying that because I don't want to work with her/ I think she's crap at her job etc. So then I spend a lot of time reassuring her that that isn't true.

I think I could cope with this if it was just during work and I could escape from it at home but out of work she will message me all of the time asking me what I'm doing, who I'm with etc. If I don't immediately reply she will keep messaging me question marks, then I get "I'm getting really worried now, please respond." Then phone calls! Even if it's only been 10 minutes since her first text. If I reply and say, for instance, I'm out shopping. Then I'll get a barrage of questions about where, who with, what am I buying. She also always tries to invite herself to whatever plans I have. If I'm going to a friend's house- she'll ask if she can come. Despite never having met my friend. I have to politely explain that it's really just a catch up with an old friend and I didn't really feel like I could bring along someone who my other friend has never met. I was going to see a member of my family for their birthday- she wanted to come.

She is happily married and does have her own friends! I thought maybe she was just lonely and wanted to increase her social circle and thought maybe that would help, so I invited her to a meal out with a friend of mine a while ago and I regretted it so much so I'd really rather not do that again. She cried because they got her order wrong, and this made my friend very uncomfortable. She behaved quite oddly throughout, just was very intense. She also immediately added my friend on Facebook (along with other friends of mine that she's not met) and now messages her all of the time, similar to the way she messages me. At work she also keeps bringing my friend up as "her friend" when talking to other people (she's only met her this one time). I don't really care about this but it's just so odd. She also sought out other people in my life to "befriend" who again she's never met, like someone I used to work with really briefly who she messaged and asked for the phone number of?? My friends then ask me about it and I don't really know what to say or how to explain it. The thing is, she is a nice person and I know she does struggle with her mental health (she is on medication and having therapy) and I do want to be supportive and try and help her- it's just getting harder and harder. I don't think anything I'm doing is helping her because if anything she's getting worse!

She's quite a bit older than me (I'm mid twenties) but I often feel like I'm back at school because there's constantly some "drama" she needs consoling about. I basically want to know if I'm BU or overreacting (as she seems to believe, when I've brought anything up with her) or if anyone has experienced anything like this before and has any advice for coping with it? I'd like to be a good friend to her but also can't cope with the stress and drama this brings if it continues unabated!

OP posts:
Dotty1969 · 22/09/2019 13:31

Hope it's all going well?
Has she messaged you at home?
Just one more week?!

Motoko · 22/09/2019 14:48

It doesn't look like OP's coming back.

butterfly220 · 22/09/2019 16:42

I am still around reading everyone's helpful advice Smile

Colleague returns to work on Tuesday. I was really, really hoping she wouldn't Sad I have had multiple meetings with management during her absence and they are fully appraised of the situation now. They had a very long meeting with her on Friday. I got the impression they wanted to discuss the job not really being for her, but sounds like she was very resistant to this and they can't really sack her for many reasons. At the very least they said they were going to ask her to cut back her hours, they said maybe to only 2 days a week which would have felt brilliant for me- to know I had 3 whole days of liberation every week! However, outcome of the meeting was the most she would agree to is one afternoon off a week, so that won't make that much difference to me really.

So I guess I'll be taking each day at a time, grey rocking and being very careful to watch my back. Management is very aware (they were very shocked!) and is going to keep checking in and monitoring too. I won't be doing any work for her at all and I will be reporting back to management any and all incidents if they resume like before.

OP posts:
longtimelurkerhelen · 22/09/2019 17:43

@butterfly220 I'm so glad your employers are taking with the seriousness it deserves.

I think seeing as you won't be doing her work for her anymore, her inability to do her job will become apparent very soon.

Is she still sending you loads of messages?

I hope you are feeling a bit better after your respite.

rosedream · 22/09/2019 17:46

What a relief your employers are taking this seriously. You've handled this brilliantly , I don't know if I could have. Good luck for next week.

Motoko · 22/09/2019 17:54

Has she stopped messaging you?

Surely, it's not up to her, if the management only want her to work 2 days a week? I don't understand that.

AufderAutobahn · 22/09/2019 18:00

I'm glad management are supportive. Well done for everything you've done to resolve this. Some people are very good at testing the system and it can be very hard to dismiss someone if there are mental health issues involved but it sounds like you have done all the right things. As you say, don't do her work at all, it will allow management to get a better picture of the real situation and of her and your capabilities and you'll get the credit you deserve for having worked so hard.

Smelborp · 22/09/2019 18:15

Motoko, I think it depends on the contract.

mankyfourthtoe · 22/09/2019 19:18

Such a relief that management are taking you seriously. Good luck for Tuesday

madmumofteens · 22/09/2019 22:10

Glad you have support from management good luck for Tuesday x

JollyHolly30 · 23/09/2019 04:31

Shamelessly placemarking.

I'm so impressed with how you've handled this situation!

CoraPirbright · 23/09/2019 12:13

I am surprised that your management are so shocked - surely that other colleague who eventually had to sign off with stress tried to appraise them of this? Perhaps they just put it down to a clash of personalities but the same thing happening with someone else for a second time puts quite a different complexion on things.

Best of luck on Tuesday - I was really hoping she would jump ship altogether but I hope that you will feel able to really block her and just do your own thing. Will be thinking of you.

AhoyDelBoy · 23/09/2019 12:38

I have only read the OP and all I can say is FUCK. THAT. You must be a saint. I just could not tolerate a person like this at all, she sounds desperately unwell IMO. Right, now I will go and read the 450+ responses.

FrancisCrawford · 23/09/2019 12:44

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3luckystars · 24/09/2019 16:32

Well I doubt she will last very long if you had been doing the majority of her work before now.
It's great that your managers are on board, the tide has turned now so well done.

Look after yourself, dont drop your guard. Best of luck x

PlinkPlink · 24/09/2019 16:57

Hope it's gone well for you today OP?

Drum2018 · 24/09/2019 17:14

Glad management have taken you seriously. Maintain a dignified distance. You don't have to speak to her about anything non work related and if it's work related I'd only speak to her about something that is directly related to your job spec, not hers.

CoraPirbright · 24/09/2019 17:54

How did it go today OP?

butterfly220 · 24/09/2019 21:12

Colleague came in today as planned, but stayed less than 20 minutes and then went home. She said she felt overwhelmed and couldn't do it. She said she just wanted to go home. I felt really bad for her actually but there was not a lot I could do without going back to times of old and doing things for her which I've made clear I'm not going to do. I just think if she can't do it, then this isn't really the right job for her because it can't just carry on indefinitely me doing her job as well as mine. I think she has a plan but I'm not quite sure what it is. She was very tearful when she did come in, it did make me feel for her, but I had to keep reminding myself that the tears were probably mostly because she wanted to go home and knew that would be the quickest way of achieving that. I'm not sure what's going to happen from here really. Spoke to management again quite a few times because they kept asking to speak to me. Don't think colleague will now be in for the rest of the week.

OP posts:
RhymesWithOrange · 24/09/2019 21:38

You are kind OP. But as you say, if she's not up to the job then it's probably for the best that she finds something that suits her more.

Onwards and upwards x

Drum2018 · 24/09/2019 21:38

She's probably trying to guilt you into doing her shit, trying to draw you in to her drama, trying to gain sympathy from you so she can start texting you again. If she's not up to the job right now then that is not your issue to solve. Don't get drawn back into any drama. Don't feel bad for her. You cannot help her - she needs professional help to overcome whatever is going on with her. Do your work and do your best to leave work at the door when you leave each evening.

madmumofteens · 24/09/2019 21:38

Oh butterfly I really feel for you! You have to know that none of this is your fault and that you went above and beyond just please don't feel sorry for her x

katkit · 24/09/2019 22:02

This is scary! How horrific. She is a mess.

WelshMoth · 24/09/2019 22:06

OP well done for protecting yourself. Has this lady attempted to contact you're friend at all?

PuzzledObserver · 24/09/2019 23:09

Severe anxiety is a real medical condition and deeply unpleasant to experience. It can be bad enough to render someone unable to cope with working. It looks as if until now she has been coping by basically pressuring you to do her job for her, which is not sustainable.

Either she gets treatment, gets better, goes back to work and does her job. Or your employer will eventually go through their capability proceedings and dismiss her because she is never going to be well enough to do it. Or she might resign.

Is she still contacting you outside work, OP?

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