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To find this friend so difficult??

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butterfly220 · 30/08/2019 22:22

[name changed, sorry for the long post- trying not to drip feed. I feel like I have an endless amount I could say as this has been bothering me for so long!]

I have always thought I was quite a patient person but I am finding this friend really, really grating! I don't know if it's me, and I'm letting it get to me unreasonably or if this would get on the nerves of even the most patient person in the world!

We work together, and I can't really change that any time soon and in our context it would be very very difficult to distance myself.

Basically this friend will stick to me like glue for the entire work day- copying absolutely everything I do. I find this exhausting and very irritating, but when I try and call her out on it she always says she has low confidence and isn't sure what she's doing so I can kind of see why the copying is coming about (although I think she's perfectly competent and intelligent enough to do it on her own). But I do mean copying absolutely everything, like snatching things off me to see what I've written to write the exact same thing. I find I'm really doing her job as well as my own a lot of the time because when we are doing something different she'll bring things to me and ask me to do it- and then always takes any credit for herself I should add! I know I shouldn't let it get to me but when I've done something she's asked me to do, then someone comes and says to her that it was great etc. She'll just say "oh thanks!" even when I'm right there. I have tried to talk to her about this but she gets very emotional and always ends up with her making me feel bad or unsupportive. I feel like I spend 90% of my time trying to make her feel better, I often feel a lot like her counsellor and go home very emotionally drained. Everything is always very centred on her, for instance when she had a review at work (just general targets etc.) and it went well I thought it was a great opportunity to build her confidence and I went on about how brilliant it was, reiterating all the positive feedback etc. We talked about it for ages. Then when I had mine, I came back and as soon as I sat down she said please could I not tell her what they said because she didn't want to know what they'd said because she thought it would make her feel bad. I said okay and there was silence for a while as we worked and then she said can you just say yes or no to did it go well? I said it was fine and then she actually said "I don't want to sound like a bad friend but I think it'd make me feel a lot better about myself if yours hadn't gone well"Confused. It's always very focussed on her. If anyone says anything that's not 100% positive to her (even just a casual neutral comment) she's distraught and the entire day is spent trying to rationalise it with her. She is very negative which I find very draining. She normally greets me every day with "how are you?" Then when I say I'm fine and ask how she is she says "not great, I cried all night again." She always says this very matter of factly and kind of expectantly waits for my sympathy if that makes sense. She does keep saying she doesn't think the job is for her and I said I did think she should quit if it's making her feel so down but then straight away she's saying I'm saying that because I don't want to work with her/ I think she's crap at her job etc. So then I spend a lot of time reassuring her that that isn't true.

I think I could cope with this if it was just during work and I could escape from it at home but out of work she will message me all of the time asking me what I'm doing, who I'm with etc. If I don't immediately reply she will keep messaging me question marks, then I get "I'm getting really worried now, please respond." Then phone calls! Even if it's only been 10 minutes since her first text. If I reply and say, for instance, I'm out shopping. Then I'll get a barrage of questions about where, who with, what am I buying. She also always tries to invite herself to whatever plans I have. If I'm going to a friend's house- she'll ask if she can come. Despite never having met my friend. I have to politely explain that it's really just a catch up with an old friend and I didn't really feel like I could bring along someone who my other friend has never met. I was going to see a member of my family for their birthday- she wanted to come.

She is happily married and does have her own friends! I thought maybe she was just lonely and wanted to increase her social circle and thought maybe that would help, so I invited her to a meal out with a friend of mine a while ago and I regretted it so much so I'd really rather not do that again. She cried because they got her order wrong, and this made my friend very uncomfortable. She behaved quite oddly throughout, just was very intense. She also immediately added my friend on Facebook (along with other friends of mine that she's not met) and now messages her all of the time, similar to the way she messages me. At work she also keeps bringing my friend up as "her friend" when talking to other people (she's only met her this one time). I don't really care about this but it's just so odd. She also sought out other people in my life to "befriend" who again she's never met, like someone I used to work with really briefly who she messaged and asked for the phone number of?? My friends then ask me about it and I don't really know what to say or how to explain it. The thing is, she is a nice person and I know she does struggle with her mental health (she is on medication and having therapy) and I do want to be supportive and try and help her- it's just getting harder and harder. I don't think anything I'm doing is helping her because if anything she's getting worse!

She's quite a bit older than me (I'm mid twenties) but I often feel like I'm back at school because there's constantly some "drama" she needs consoling about. I basically want to know if I'm BU or overreacting (as she seems to believe, when I've brought anything up with her) or if anyone has experienced anything like this before and has any advice for coping with it? I'd like to be a good friend to her but also can't cope with the stress and drama this brings if it continues unabated!

OP posts:
butterfly220 · 02/09/2019 22:59

I'm so sorry to hear from others who are going through the same thing Sad I've never experienced anything like it! I can't believe there's more people like that in the world. It makes me terrified of meeting another. I really hope you are all getting the support you need too Thanks I know how draining, terrifying, confusing and inescapable/never ending it feels Sad

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Beautiful3 · 02/09/2019 23:07

Well done OP. Setting boundaries and saying no firmly. Dont give in tomorrow. If she can't do the job, then quite honestly she shouldn't be doing it.

CuriousMama · 02/09/2019 23:23

butterfly she sounds exhausting. Keep up with saying no.

Tonnerre · 02/09/2019 23:56

This reminds me of someone a colleague used to deal with. She made a big thing of being ultra-friendly with people and asking all about their families etc, but didn't take at all kindly to receiving advice that wasn't what she wanted to hear. Then someone googled her out of curiosity and discovered that she had a history of making accusations of child abuse against people she had fallen out with. Fortunately my colleague had resisted her attempts to get personal information and continued to do so, much to her frustration. Ultimately she disappeared, probably to find another victim, but we were all very relieved.

Gruzinkerbell1 · 03/09/2019 04:41

Well done OP! Keep saying no. The more you do it the easier it will get.

shearwater · 03/09/2019 05:12

Well done, OP.

Fuckface7 · 03/09/2019 06:15

Well done. Stick to your guns. It will be worth it.

StealthPolarBear · 03/09/2019 06:40

Good for you op. Keep on standing up for yourself. If she asks why you didn't answer her calls remember (and maybe remind her) that you're not on call to her, you don't owe her an instant response!
Also the checking up on where you are, I agree with a pp that is stalking. If anything like that happens again id see it in those terms.

Groovee · 03/09/2019 06:46

Glad you have made a start. Her comment about well you'll need to says it all really. She wants her own way and she thinks she deserves it.

Keep going, you can get through this.

sonjadog · 03/09/2019 07:03

"well I would find it helpful so you'll need to."

This comment would make me see red. No you don't need to. She isn't your manager and doesn't decide what you need to do.

Keep up the saying no to her. She will undoubtedly ramp it all up when you start refusing, but stick with it! She really does sound unbearable.

TellMeWhoTheVilliansAre · 03/09/2019 07:03

Well done on standing you ground, but be careful. She will obviously sense that you are pulling away from her, and maybe like her previous partner she will now turn nasty on you. I think you need to compose an email to your boss anx have if sent before they come back. Because you can be sure if she senses that you are going to report her for any reason she will make sure to get her story in first.

Cover your back at all times. Play clever until you are in a position to speak to the relevant manager. Keep saying no to her, but keep it in text or email just how demanding and unreasonable she is. If she contacts you saying you HAVE to do something tell her you obviously are kept busy with your own work and haven't time to do hers. Ask her is their a specific problem she's having, or something specific she needs advice or direction on. Hopefully she will give you enough information to clearly demonstrate to your manager how demanding and unreasonable she is being. And how her inability to do her job is impacting on your own.

Good luck. You've made a great start.

MaryPopppins · 03/09/2019 07:15

I've come to this late but really pleased to read you stood up for yourself yesterday OP.

Here's hoping you keep the same strength today and that management is back soon to help you.

Definitely keep screenshots of the messages/calls you're getting out of work hours. They'll help convince them you're not the crazy one.

I'd even go as far as to have voice record function ready on my phone as I feel like she's likely to get worse with you at work now you're putting your foot down.

Reading your post reminded me SO much of this blog I read a couple of years back.

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NoDontLookAtMeImShy · 03/09/2019 07:50

Hang on, she sends you a list of things you need to do??
How has that come about? It sounds like your partnership is equal?

She's so manipulative. I always find it shocking that people of that magnitude exist!

Apolloanddaphne · 03/09/2019 07:55

Well done OP. You have made a great start in standing your ground.

3luckystars · 03/09/2019 08:02

It's amazing seeing everything with new eyes.

Do not be fooled here if she backs off slightly, do not get weak and feel sorry for her again. She has done this before, protect yourself and get her out of your life.

Be prepared for her behaviour changes, in line with your change of behaviour . Either she will get worse or back off, DO NOT BE FOOLED. This is what I call ' the sting of the dying wasp'

Stay strong. Note everything. Get help from work. Get her out of your life and don't look back.

WhoKnewBeefStew · 03/09/2019 08:18

To cover your back, does she email you these requests or text them to you? It might be very useful to show your manager/hr the amount of reliance and pestering she does to you. Plus if she does get nasty it’s a good thing to keep

CuriousMama · 03/09/2019 08:19

Hope today goes ok?

TellMeWhoTheVilliansAre · 03/09/2019 08:20

Would it be worth mentioning it to the short term boss? Especially if they are someone who wasn't involved in her previous "dispute". Your manager might have done bias in her favour if they dealt with her (and saw how upset she was) over her previous incident.

A fresh pair of eyes with no history might be what's needed. In all cases keep your side of things professional.

regmover · 03/09/2019 08:27

I think you need to mention this to short-term boss, because if you're starting to take action now you need to be prepared if your "friend" starts to put pressure on from that direction.
I'd probably ask to have a chat, rather than send an email. Put it in terms of that, bearing in mind what you were told about her interaction with her previous partner, you want them to be aware that you are taking steps to discourage her from being involved in your private life and you are also encouraging her to be a bit less reliant on you at work.

MaryPopppins · 03/09/2019 08:35

Yes I think PP are right about having a chat with the short term boss.

Being new to the environment may actually really help. And having a non-biased view could well mean they're in your corner and for all you know they might have met a person like this before.

Be warned that "friend" will be VERY interested/worried as to why you and new box are having a chat. And most likely then find a reason to have a chat herself and lay on some sob story.

dollybooo · 03/09/2019 08:57

Op she sounds very manipulative & she knows what she's doing.

If I was you I would just bluntly say that you have family stress ( don't go into any detail ) and that you won't be responding to her out of work as you have a lot on your plate. Yes it's a little white lie, but it's gently letting her know that this has to stop - out of work at least. In work - I would just distance myself, let her say what she wants, get upset etc, and don't react and engage in a minimal way. You have shown kindness to her, she will soon get the message. She sounds exhausting & it's very manipulative the way she is going about this.

I once had a friend ( that I worked with ) that I felt hounded me out of work, she used to just drop by & come in & sit for hours on end, I ghosted her in the end & luckily I got another job in another department & that was the end of that.

This woman is not your responsibility, she is sucking the life out of you.

For your own sanity you seriously need to 'cool off' the work friends vibe & let her throw whatever wobblers/tantrums she likes as she is NOT your responsibility.

Just keep chat to work related & don't engage & anything other than that & she will soon get the message.

Mental illness or no mental illness... she's being extremely manipulative here.

dollybooo · 03/09/2019 08:58

I would just block her on everything so she just can't contact you out of work.

And don't feel guilty, she's too much!

BrittleJoys · 03/09/2019 09:07

I think you need to mention this to short-term boss, because if you're starting to take action now you need to be prepared if your "friend" starts to put pressure on from that direction. I'd probably ask to have a chat, rather than send an email. Put it in terms of that, bearing in mind what you were told about her interaction with her previous partner, you want them to be aware that you are taking steps to discourage her from being involved in your private life and you are also encouraging her to be a bit less reliant on you at work.

This. She's already sensing you putting up boundaries in and out of work, and her next step may well be to go to your short-term boss and make a complaint against you, or say that you are preventing her from doing her job. A brief, factual conversation with your temporary boss, pointing to the example of this woman's last work 'partner' and saying that you are taking steps to encourage a normal independence in and out of work, will help head that off before she gets there with her complaint that you're being unprofessional.

BrittleJoys · 03/09/2019 09:09

Oh, and one thing you should also start doing is to work on yourself -- people can probably suggest things to read about boundaries and self-esteem, but you sound like you could really use an assertiveness course, where you would practice saying 'No' in RL situations via role play.

dollybooo · 03/09/2019 09:10

Also I suffer with mental health issues OP.

I wouldn't dream of putting the 'I cried all night' on my colleagues.... I just go to work & do the best I can do in my role whilst managing my condition. Even on the days where I'm having a bad day ( with my mental health) my nearest & dearest ( friends/colleagues) can tell & they literally have to squeeze the admittance out of me ( of having a bad day health rise ) and they just give me a hug & let me know that they are there for me & it gets left at that, I hate to cause any drama / fuss around it.

But I'm truly lucky to have a few people whom I am close to that know about my condition & that simple gesture is truly lovely.

Work is work. We all need a little kindness at work & you have done that, she's taking the piss.

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