To let you know that panic buying starts next week.

[GladAllOver]

The government is starting an advertising campaign next week telling us all to "Get Ready!".

What else can it mean?

By the way, it's costing £100m.

The government has already messed up by signing a contract with a ferry company with no ferries.

There would have been ships, if they'd conducted the negotiations normally. The company that was to back the deal - Arklow Shipping - said at the time that they pulled out because the British negotiators wouldn't allow them (Arklow) time to do due diligence.

Venger I agree completely

I work for Tesco and we have just emptied our warehouse for the Xmas food deliveries to start . I'm not joking when I say the space is massive and it will soon be full . I don't think people need to panic buy too much

So we'll be able to get all the mince pies, Quality Street and biscuits for cheese that we could dream of, so who gives a fuck if the bread and milk runs out? Bring it on

What could be less bad than no deal then?

What could be less bad than no deal then?
A shit deal, obviously. One that doesn't leave us with absolutely nothing in place on 1st Noovember.

I started my Brexit stash again. I think it's sensible. I've only got stuff we'd eat normally.

What could be less bad than no deal then?

A very bad deal that commits us to far more than it commits the EU alongside shitty trade deals with the US where Trump gets his comically tiny hands on the NHS, we get a significant drop in the standard of traded goods and, again, commits us to far more than it commits the US.

That's scenario one.

Scenario two is a sudden U-turn where Article 50 is revoked because, thanks to the Remainers fucking it up by not being positive enough, it's not going to work at this current time in this current format. It's all the Remainers fault. Rest assured friends, we will still leave as soon as possible but in the meantime, friends, look at this utter mess created by the Remainers. They've ruined our country, made us a laughing stock, and trampled all of the Will Of The People™️, fuck them, am I right? Well luckily, friends, here is an opportunity to show those Remainers what's what by having a super duper General Election. Remember friends, I - Boris - wanted to leave but the Remainers didn't, the Remainers wanted to come round your house and stamp on your dreams. Vote Boris.

Scenario Three is that we crash out with no deal, it is even shitter than they're laying the groundwork for and we have to go cap in hand to the EU to apply for readmission.

Either way, it's all going to be shit and it really does feel like they're subtly (and not so subtly) laying the groundwork for something.

Has anyone else noticed how much Johnson uses the word friends?

Has anyone else noticed how much Johnson uses the word friends Yes. It's ultra annoying. And always sounds sarcastic to me.

There are a few comments about how things will blow over and soon get back to normal after a few weeks, months etc. - just as a snowstorm or petrol strike causes a week or so of disruption before things get back to normal.

There is no acknowledgement that in the event of a No Deal Brexit, restrictions on trade and reduced capacity become the new 'Normal' until something else is put in place. That something else is 'A Deal'. Even if Johnson flounces off on 31st. October, when he wakes up next morning, the UK still needs a deal - otherwise the 'bumps in the road' become major blockages. While it is sensible for everyone, from companies to individuals, to have some sort of stockpile, what happens when the stockpile has been used and supplies are still not getting through? 16 weeks of insulin is a good contingency, but then what? A month's worth of pasta in your cupboard seems sensible, but when that's been eaten and there are still shortages, what happens next?

A month's worth of pasta in your cupboard seems sensible, but when that's been eaten and there are still shortages, what happens next?

And that there is the scariest question of all.

I’m half Irish half Italian. We will not run short of carbohydrate chezRussell.

Have largely been ignoring this but had a sudden panic last night about my supplies of Diet Pepsi being interrupted, even for a day... how many can I store in the attic, before it collapses?

I am stockpiling my medication. I have to get it from Germany and none of the pharmacies there were shipping to the UK in the last two weeks of March.

@Venger this is my biggest fear. I’m going to just stock as much as I can. And just hope we have enough. My husband is an amazing cook and can make something out of nothing. I keep looking at my pile and wondering if it’s enough. But I can only get so much without my other thinking i have gone crazy

Barcode I hope you are able to get enough. What you said about March could be quite telling.

I keep eyeing my stash and wondering too. I have come to the conclusion that if a few weeks' worth isn't enough, then we have a much bigger problem on our hands.

I think some of the people stockpiling are genuinely worried and some are just really enjoying the drama and having something to panic about.

Clavinova thank you for doing some fact checking.
Of course many posters don't want to be bothered with fact checking or anything that calms down their hysteria 😂.

I can't even see anyone reference or point out your posts ie relief....

Penny I think it's prudent to have some basics like pasta in, loo roll etc.

But yes some people do love the drama.

FFS, where's the drama in stocking up on pasta and tinned tomatoes? I don't want to spend a winter eating potatoes and cabbage, and I'm taking steps to avoid that. It has nothing to do with drama.

@Autumnintheair I've just read the diabetes uk link from C&P queen Clav. It's good to know that they are reassured, and hopefully things will be ok for insulin. So, what about all the other time sensitive meds? What about isotopes for cancer screening. Why are we inflicting this shitshow on ourselves? Has being fucking stupid suddenly been made compulsory?

But yes some people do love the drama

I do!! I love a bit of drama

Never felt very dramatic buying bogroll but you maybe do it in a more flamboyant way?

Oh Though I suppose if i ran in yelling ‘BOG ROLL! I NEED BOGROLL NOW!’ That would be a bit more dramatic

I’ll ask dd, she turns virtually every trip out of the house into a drama

Autumnintheair

Havanananana
An 80% reduction in freight traffic was the figure that both the road and rail hauliers and HMRC came up with.

I haven't checked who came up with the figure, but 80% (or 87% - they didn't quote the exact figure from their newspaper link) was the worst case scenario reported in January - the article in the BMJ was written recently and published 2 days ago - it is scaremongering to knowingly quote out of date, inflated stats.

Statistical modelling doesn't automatically turn into fact and no-deal contingency plans are being implemented at a much faster pace now, e.g;

21 AUG "More than 88,000 VAT registered companies across the UK will be allocated an Economic Operator Registration and Identification (EORI) number in the next two weeks in order to keep trading with customers and suppliers in the EU after the UK has left."

www.gov.uk/government/news/chancellor-accelerates-brexit-preparations-for-businesses

A 50% reduction in capacity across the Dover-France crossing means over 4,000 trucks a day would be looking for alternative routes.

Wouldn't that be 2,000 trucks in each direction though?

The head of the French channel ports said a few weeks ago;
“There are certain individuals in the UK who are whipping up this catastrophism for their own purposes,”

“This has provoked a lot of concern, but basically ‘c’est la bullsh** Nothing is going to happen the day after Brexit.”

“Britain will be a third country, that’s all, and there is no reason why this should lead to any problems."

Portsmouth City Council have already built infrastructure (new roads, 'triage points and lorry parks so drivers without the right documents can download and print what they need.') - to cope with a possible increase of up to 2,000 trucks a day - extra trucks avoiding Dover.

Portsmouth CC own and operate the port themselves - from the council website;

"we continue to make preparations with the Local Resilience Forum (LRF).This is to make sure we are ready if the UK exits the EU without a deal." "Plans are in place to ensure the smooth running of operations." "We are working hard to ensure lorries are processed and directed quickly so roads are kept clear of congestion."

www.portsmouth.gov.uk/ext/parking-travel-and-roads/travel/exiting-the-eu

The EU can see the problems looming and has said that it will continue to allow UK trucks and drivers into the EU on a temporary basis...But this temporary permission can be unilaterally ended

A reciprocal arrangement though so unlikely.

What about isotopes for cancer screening.
Revised plan - air freight and 'door-to-door' service with tracking;

www.pharmaceutical-journal.com/news-and-analysis/news/plans-for-importing-medical-isotopes-changed-after-government-review-of-no-deal-brexit-proposals/20206941.article?firstPass=false

Epilepsy drugs - click on the individual drugs;
www.epilepsysociety.org.uk/contingency-plans-epilepsy-medications-case-no-deal-brexit#.XWp_PNFK2Uk

Why are we inflicting this shit show on ourselves?

Not enough people like Theresa May's deal.

The reality of running out of bog roll in this house is a day to day reality as MrBC has "allergies" and can use a whole bog roll to blow his nose.

I once had to ration the few sheets left one evening because in his wisdom he bloody didn't check how many rolls we had left.

Having to shake my lady garden vigorously whilst sitting on the loo to get rid of any drips is no fun I can tell you.

I'm bloody well going to buy out Tesco next month of cheap bog roll and built a fort out of it to protect me from Brexit.

To summarise Clavinova's posts "It's fiiiiine".