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What does Brexit mean to you?

303 replies

DtPeabodysLoosePants · 29/08/2019 17:50

Posting here rather than on the brexit topic to hopefully get a wider range of answers.

How do you see the future of the UK once it leaves the EU?

What will change? What will stay the same? What will be the biggest change for the country? Your community? Your family? Your friends? Your job? Or anything else that will be affected.

I'm not looking into a leave v remain debate, just perceived changes. Good or bad.

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Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 30/08/2019 10:28

Oh yes

I am

The one who took everything abroad ...does he have anything here anymore or has all manufacturing been moved abroad

Moo5ele55 · 30/08/2019 10:29

Overpriced hoovers nd crappy pubs.

Yeah that will keep us all afloat in a time of austerity.😂

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 30/08/2019 10:30

moo

We are all gonna need 2 for £10 on jugs of watered down cocktails!!!!

😀

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 30/08/2019 10:30

Don’t actually believe that we’ve come up with two and user hasn’t come up with any

Ohflippineck · 30/08/2019 10:31

Don’t see what your problem is Moo. He can still get his pint while the missus keeps the house clean ........ ah, Brexit Britain, circa 1952.

WaterSheep · 30/08/2019 10:31

If companies and big business leaders think they can get rich in the aftermath of Brexit, this is good for us all, as it is the growth of business (and businessmen getting rich) that grows our economy and ultimately benefits us all

How does James Dyson, moving business away from the UK help to grow our economy? Confused

Moo5ele55 · 30/08/2019 10:32

😂😂😂

Off to stockpile.

Looking forward to all the cheery links that will allay everybody’s fears on my return.

MaudBaileysGreenTurban · 30/08/2019 10:53

Same old, same old from the Brexiteers.

'You can find loads of positive stuff online about the economic benefits of Brexit from real, proper, impartial experts who totally know what they're talking about'

'Show us then, just one link, go on'

'Nooooo, that's up to you, I'm not linking to anything, not me, never, won't do it'

Same old disingenuous shite, peddled over and over and over and over.

Not ONCE, in more than three fucking years, has any Brexiteer been able to give a good reason as to why we should be doing this. Not once.

We see you.

SciFiRules · 30/08/2019 10:54

User What you are missing is that the "bussiness" leaders keen on brexit are keen because they can profit on currency speculation in the first instance. This does not employ anybody in the uk or help with trade balances given the funds are us or eurozone. Secondly they think they can profit by taking those offshore funds and buying up the bankrupt national infrastructure following the inevitable collapse (Health care, social care, security, power, waste, transport, etc etc). Thirdly they belive they will be able to force tax incentives and revocation of employment protections from a government of a bankruptcy state heavily infiltrated by the same "bussiness leaders".
On the other hand anyone running a bussiness involving import, export or internal consumption is warning of dire impacts.

MaudBaileysGreenTurban · 30/08/2019 10:55

Oh, and Xenia, with respect, it's a lot easier not to worry when you have a significant financial cushion to fall back on.

I know you sold the private island and all, but I don't expect a rise in food prices will bother you too much, will it?

Many others aren't so lucky.

MarySibleysFamiliar · 30/08/2019 11:04

My husband may lose his job.

It's an international manufacturing company which is already closing factories round the world so if Brexit means labour issues and higher export charges etc then they'll just close DH's rather than the French or Belgian factories for example.
It's a very high paid job for what it is and DH would never be able to get a job paying as much or with as good hours without having to get a degree or working 6 days a week instead of the 7 shifts a fortnight he does now.

Brexit has me worried. There is no other work around here except a local meat processing factory that pays shit wages or shop work.

FrauFlamingo · 30/08/2019 11:10

You cannot grow a country by judging, looking down on, and dismissing half of them

... so why have successive Conservative governments been doing this to Remainers since the referendum??

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 30/08/2019 11:18

How does James Dyson, moving business away from the UK help to grow our economy

I think its because while he is moving all his business away he is being very positive and talking the country up...or something

Must remember when i need a new vacuum cleaner NOT to buy a dyson one

FrauFlamingo · 30/08/2019 11:35

As someone who stands to be genuinely disenfranchised by Brexit (i.e. no right to vote anywhere, in any election, even though I am a working taxpayer) it also bugs me massively when people suggest that the referendum was the first time the "disenfranchised" electorate who voted Leave were given "a real say". They've always had a say, but how many of them couldn't be bothered to get off their arses and vote in general, local and EU elections before?

Parliamentary democracy isn't fucking Strictly or Britain's Got Talent.

Oh, and I wasn't allowed to vote in the referendum either, even though I will be directly and negatively affected by the outcome. Even with an orderly Brexit.

FenellaMaxwell · 30/08/2019 11:39

@User344772734481882445 Yes. These businesses growing is a positive sign for the economy. The economy of Singapore, and of the Netherlands, and Germany, where all those businesses will now be based. Unfortunately our economy turns on numbers, not on rich men with offshore bank accounts saying everything’s going to be fine.

WaterSheep · 30/08/2019 12:06

Well said Fenella. Companies moving away from the Uk aren't going to be a benefit to the UK economy, and i'm not sure how User can argue otherwise. Confused

ContinuityError · 30/08/2019 12:52

If businesses know Brexit can work for them (and of course they all look after themselves and their own business interests) then thats a very positive sign for the economy.

Bamford won't care about trading on WTO terms - his products have zero tariffs anyway. He will look forward to rolling back workers rights to lower production costs though. Plus he gets to give 2 fingers to the EU in response to JCB being fined £22 million for being competition law.

Ratcliffe - moves his business offshore to save billions in tax?

Dyson - moved his electric car project to Singapore because that's where his supply chain (so he won't get hit by pesky tariffs and NTBs) plus he knows he'll benefit from the EU/Singapore free trade deal. And another one up to his eyeballs in complicated tax avoidance schemes.

Nothing to do with Brexit being positive for the UK economy, everything to do with Brexit being good for their own businesses.

pottedshrimps · 30/08/2019 13:47

I think an already shitty country will get shittier and public services will keep declining.

Prices will increase across the board so living standards will drop.

The dcs will probably emigrate to another country.

It'll end up like some kind of 70s craphole with us staggering from one power cut or service failure to another.

Everyone will be miserable and hateful towards one another - like it is now, but worse.

Wiltshirelass2019 · 30/08/2019 14:38

There’s an awful lot of very negative minded people on this post, i wonder if Brexit and the media have caused some sort of mental health condition? I don’t mean this flippantly, it’s a genuine concern. Everyone that I know: friends, family, colleagues don’t really talk about any of the issues raised on here. Either they don’t care about/believe the media hype or are internally crapping themselves.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 30/08/2019 14:50

Oh it gets better

Any concerns about what could POTENTIALLY happen after brexit and you should either emigrate or you have mental health issues

Awesome Grin

Hazardtired · 30/08/2019 14:59

What does brexit mean to me?

Let me see...

Lack of medicines starting from now.

I know the gov are going to release their "Get Ready" campaign soon but I didn't realise it was:

Get ready.... to suffer and die

Get ready... to mourn

Get ready... to rage at injustice

Get ready... to watch your loved ones suffer

Get ready... to not speak about the negative effects because for some bizarre reason we should be positive

Get ready... to be royally fucked over

Get ready... to watch your life go down the pan and be helpless to stop it

Get ready...Get ready... GET READY! Why? Because our far right government says to.

EssentialHummus · 30/08/2019 15:01

wiltshire everyone that I know - really, everyone - talks about these issues near-daily, and several have made the decision to emigrate. These are not tinfoil hat types - they are highly educated folk in jobs which require a fair amount of sound judgment, pragmatism etc and with strong ties here. Quite ordinary people harbour these worries.

Wiltshirelass2019 · 30/08/2019 15:39

EssentialHummus like I said, I’m genuinely concerned for peoples mental state, I’m not being horrible. All the people I work with just don’t seem concerned at all, certainly not in a way which is reflected in these sorts of threads. The people I work with aren’t thick idiots either, we’re all highly educated with doctorates etc. I wonder if people are keeping the panic to themselves?

TheBigBallOfOil · 30/08/2019 15:43

“I’m genuinely concerned for peoples mental state.”
Well yes. Developing concerns of my own right now.
WTF??

MissConductUS · 30/08/2019 15:50

Other than the impact on the financial markets and world economies, it doesn't mean much to me here in New York. I am of course concerned about how you all will get on when it happens.

I was listening to a podcast from The Economist this morning and learned that with the time required for the EU to ratify any agreement the shut down of Parliament makes getting a deal done before the end of October pretty much impossible. They also pointed out that the EU can't sweeten the deal for BoJo without encouraging others to leave the club at the same time, so I really don't see a deal happening.

DS will be at uni when you crash out. If it gets really ugly I may offer his room until things stabilize to one of the lovely friends I've made here. Smile

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