What does Brexit mean to you?

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Posting here rather than on the brexit topic to hopefully get a wider range of answers.

How do you see the future of the UK once it leaves the EU?

What will change? What will stay the same? What will be the biggest change for the country? Your community? Your family? Your friends? Your job? Or anything else that will be affected.

I'm not looking into a leave v remain debate, just perceived changes. Good or bad.

"For all the disturbing echoes, we are not reliving the 1930s. Strongmen like Orbán or Jair Bolsonaro (and those like Trump who seem to want to emulate them) don’t need violence to achieve their goals. They have been elected into office, not necessarily by masses disillusioned with democracy—voters, in other words, who are waiting for someone to start giving them orders—but by those who believe that the democracy we’ve had is a sham: that politicians do not listen to the common people, and that elites control everything.

It’s only after they’ve been elected that men like Orbán begin to dismantle the very system that brought them to power—muzzling a free press, attacking independent courts, even seeking to overturn election results they don’t like (as we’ve seen recently with the Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdog˘an in Istanbul’s mayoral contest). The drive of Trump’s Republicans to impose onerous voter registration rules in the US, designed to depress turnout by African-Americans and others, also reveals an alarming contempt for basic democratic values. So too does the determination of Johnson and Dominic Cummings and their unelected, hard-right government to force through a disastrous no-deal Brexit without parliamentary approval and against the wishes of the majority of the population.

None of this seems to dent populist politicians’ popularity with their own base. In the UK, Johnson’s policy is single-mindedly directed towards winning back the voters who have defected from the Conservatives to the Brexit Party, after which, following a no-deal Brexit, he will go to the country and be elected as the man who took Britain out of the EU. A divided opposition with an unpopular and ineffective leader will, he calculates, be easy prey at the hustings.

The Weimar Republic was a failed democracy, but in the 21st century, democracies fail in different ways. We can’t expect a direct re-run. But there are certainly echoes, even if they are not yet audible to most voters. By the time we hear them, we may no longer be in a position to do anything about it."

That's from the article I linked to. Scary times.

Scottish Independence.

Disaster.

"Haven’t you read the comments mocking ‘thick Northerners’ on this and other forums?"
I'm an actual Northerner and, no, never seen it on here.

I am a Northerner too. I have seen lots of very unpleasant things said about working-class people, Northerners in particular, on the issue of Brexit.

If we want the NHS to continue we need to stop taking it for granted. People who fail to turn up for appointments cost the NHS £215million a year!

to hopefully get a wider range of answers.
hahahahahahahaha sure. From dire to Armageddon you mean.

Loads of work!!
(Lawyer)

Being from the Midlands ...does that make me a northerner or southerner...where is the line? (Tell me it's not London and below!!)
Regardless.... I'll vote when I'm called to and petition and protest when I feel it necessary.
There's too much what if this and what if that and scaremongering causing me stress at the moment. I'm sure I'm not gonna starve and if I have to eat wonky veg so be it.
I'm not gonna speculate. I'm gonna just crack on and see what happens.
I may be naive but at this point I cant change what's been done.

DD needs to carry an epi pen at all times due to severe food allergies. There are already shortages in relation to epi pens.

DS needs asthma inhalers. He has been hospitalised in the past it has got so severe.

The prospect of a no deal and medicine shortages terrify me.

I think it may cause the end of peace in Northern Ireland - I hope it won't but it won't be Westminister that stops that happening.

Ultimately it will cause the breakup of the Union and Johnson and Cameron will go down in history as the prime ministers that turned Great Britain into England and Wales.

Where I am many projects are EU funded, roads, flood defences, an airport, universities, start-ups. In fact my employer one said "if you live in this county and have a job it's probably EU funded somewhere down the line" and that's not vastly inaccurate. We'll go back to having very little infrastructure of any kind because the UK gov have never shown much interest in this part or the world, the EU kept us afloat.

No more money for schools , which as a governor really worries me.
Kids that can will emigrate. Just like the 70s. My brother did and I expect my kids will.

I suspect we'll see a gradual loss of employment rights towards a more American system (reduction of annual leave, statutory maternity and redundancy, worker time regulations, break allowances etc), same with NHS and food standards.

Lmao at ‘gradual loss of employment rights.’ Have you not heard about zero hours contracts? The last I heard the EU had some fuck all to stop them.

That the Democratic vote will have been upheld.

That those in privileged positions that have power and influence can't overturn democracy just because they didn't get what they want

That the people with no voice have spoken, and actually been heard

That it will all be fine.

I don’t know who is northern or southern but it is a little bit thick to think that people like Boris Johnson and Rees Mogg have the little people without a voice’s interests at heart🙄

@howwudufeel lots of people I know are on zero hours contracts and like them because of the flexibility they afford, they are not a solution to everyone but they're not as awful as they are made out.

I work for a global organisation, in the US, they start with 10 days paid leave per year, that includes sick pay, they then accrue 1 day a year on top of that to a maximum of 20 days.

My manager who has been with the company 14 years gets less paid leave than the statutory minimum in the UK.

That those in privileged positions that have power and influence can't overturn democracy just because they didn't get what they want

The only people doing that at the mo' are BJ&DC. See above quote.

Zero contract hours are a disaster for the working-classes. It may be OK for students and yummy mummies who want a bit of pocket money but for most people they are fucking terrible

It pushed me to emigrate.

I think it will be a disaster with an economic downturn that affects generations.

Has rightly made us a global laughing stock.

While I think there are good arguments for a second referendum, I also think there's a reasonable argument that Parliament should find a way to implement the Leave vote in the least disastrous way possible. Unfortunately, what we now have is a prorogued parliament in what was the biggest attack on our democracy in decades. Whilst that was not a necessary consequence of Brexit, I think it has caused fundamental damage to democracy in the UK.

Jacob Rees Mogg is just the man to trust about zero contract hours.

By the way - I do think there is mass histeria about the whole brexit thing. IT WILL BE FINE!! No need to stockpile cans of tomato soup or dig yourself a bunker in the garden, or emigrate to Australia!

CHILL OUT!! :)

That the people with no voice have spoken, and actually been heard

They may have spoken, but I don't think very many of them are getting what they asked for.