What does Brexit mean to you?

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Posting here rather than on the brexit topic to hopefully get a wider range of answers.

How do you see the future of the UK once it leaves the EU?

What will change? What will stay the same? What will be the biggest change for the country? Your community? Your family? Your friends? Your job? Or anything else that will be affected.

I'm not looking into a leave v remain debate, just perceived changes. Good or bad.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/12/business-leaders-react-with-dismay-to-brexit-circus

Sounds peachy

Each summer we have lost more than a few kids from my high school as their parents are either returning home to the EU due to feeling uneasy (hate crimes have risen in my area) and job losses. I've also have a number leave as their British born parents have been relocated to Europe as their company has left the country. Either way it has been a huge loss. This year we had even more go. Oh, I've also got a former student who lost their PhD funding as it was joint with an EU uni and a British one.

Brexit for me means science, education and community is fucked.

exactly... Individual business growing in the UK is good for us all, as it helps sustain and grow the economy and the country.

Yet you cite James Dyson? Who has moved his headquarters from Wiltshire to Singapore? Surely if he thinks Brexit would help his business he would have kept it in the UK?

What I meant by Brexit will work for them, is that they will get richer as a result.

It means a big recession to me. I think there will be job lossess and prices rises.

I thought this - also might mean my DC might end up emigrating - extended family have in previous slumps.

On short term I was worried about medical shortages - have family members on long term medication and insulin but according to new night last night flu vaccine which was late being produced could well be caught up in the chaos with bad flu season expected - based on Australia experiences this year - which is worrying as lot of family in high risk groups including DS and I. DS and I tend to be at the bottom of the high risk groups and are often last to get vaccine on NHS anyway.

I also think the UK is less and less likely to stay together - Scotland may well want out.

Brexit for me means science, education and community is fucked

It's already affect DH work - people have left funding pots have dried up though they don't have many EU students so I supposed that's something.

Devastated economy (with the worst effects possibly not immediately but insidiously over several years). The loss of promising futures for millions of our young people. A slow, steady decline in the development of home grown technology and scientific research as funding sources dry up. Greater security risks as we leave long standing European intelligence sharing protocols. Crashing house prices and an end to affordable house building (the housing sector stock took a massive hit on the announcement of prorogation alone). Poorer health and increased premature deaths as our health service declines, its resources are stretched and it struggles to recruit from a significantly reduced staff pool. Loss of employment and welfare rights as the extreme right takes over our institutions. Declining standard of living for all, destitution for some. More children in poverty and diminished lifespans as the improved prosperity and better health of the last half century is reversed. A massive rise in racism and hate crime: when times get tough, we always look for and blame the “other”

But hey, we’ve taken back control, Parliament is sovereign like Bozo promised. Oh, wait ......

User I, at least spotted your cunning 'If it all goes to shit, it will be the fault of Remainers who didn't belieeeeeve enough' 'nuance'.

No. It'll be the fault of everyone who voted Leave.

I think it won't be dramatic as some think but it will be a long slump into being worse off in all sectors - universities will rely even more heavily on overseas students fees and will produce less and lower quality research, public services will be cut even more, the NHS will suffer greatly and the UK will no longer be respected on the world stage. I also think there is a fair chance the union will break up in the next 10 years.

A shit show.
It means our country is divided and I don't see a way back.
It means some harmonious relationships are being challenged.
It means we are giving our children a legacy that almost 50% didn't want and just over 50% did. That's not realistically a majority either way that allows the country to run without bad feeling.
It means that we have uncertainty in a way we didn't have before.
It means that the status quo has been challenged and with that comes great uncertainty.
It means that Scotland will reignite their independence and will probably get it.
It means uncertainty for Northern Ireland and a hard border will tempt a challenge to the peace process.
It means I feel very sad.

I voted remain but I definitely do not agree with most of the more extreme comments above. People should not start worrying too much.

Raised prices. Recession and job losses. Many many nurses etc leaving, either by choice or by necessity.

Collapsed pound.

It will be so shit that even ardent leavers will come to realise it was a terrible idea.

Moo - you can find articles on either side of the debate by googling and then link readers to these. I understand you wanting to defend the opposite side of the Economic argument. However, just reading those couple of links will not change my opinion or make you right. The truth is, there is evidence of economic benefits on either side of the debate. I know enough about economics to know that we'd be fine economically if we stayed in, but also FINE when we leave! The economic and business forecast is simply not as bleak (when you look beyond google search) as is made out to be, and could be positive for the UK. Plus leave is more appealing because that is what was voted for, so carrying through with it means we do not dismiss democracy and remain a strong, democratic country in the eyes of the world, which again puts us as a more credible trade partner on the world stage.

I am also constantly surprised that leave voters are dismissed constantly as ignorant and lacking intelligence and whatever other comments are levied at us. You cannot grow a country by judging, looking down on, and dismissing half of them and ignoring a vote that enabled hose often dismissed to have a say.

*those not hose!

It's not about Leave vs Remain now. It's about No Deal vs Orderly Brexit (and anything else that isn't No Deal).
If you are still trotting out tired old bollocks about "you don't understand Leave " you are missing the point.
I will accept an orderly Brexit. I will not accept No Deal. But as you are super brainy, you can understand that already.

So link then

WaterSheep - thanks for clarifying, although I did know what you meant!!!! (Gosh! A brexiteer who can understand things!!! I know that may come as a surprise to you and your fellow remainers!!) That is how business works - people and companies want to make a profit and 'get rich' in your words. If companies and big business leaders think they can get rich in the aftermath of Brexit, this is good for us all, as it is the growth of business (and businessmen getting rich) that grows our economy and ultimately benefits us all

Moo - I'm sure you are intelligent enough to do that yourself!! ...

Have don’t cant find anything positive.

Youkeep saying business leaders are positive. Prove it.

Dh was very much leave for years before the referendum

Then it was offered and as someone who works in finance he decided to vote remain

Still in finance everyone he deals with...colleagues, other finance companies, businesses etc...thinks that the economy will be fucked for a number of years at least and are making contingency plans

Now it may all be fine from day one and there is no recession (there will be a recession, brexit related or not...America is expecting one and it usually trickles out to us) and its lovely and thats great! But anyone here who talks about making contingency plans has the piss taken out of them

My contingency plans are crossing my fingers 😀

So no Armageddon...which noone has said....just valid concerns

Which everyone is very much looking forward to being proved wrong on

Oh come on! You can do better than that!! It really doesnt take much looking!

Thats a crosspost

Took me ages and i got distracted by the telly

Its not meant as a comment on moos last post

Oooh moo

That pub bloke, weatherspoons

He has always been confident about brexit

He is the only one i can think of mind

So do it then.

Yes thought as much, you can’t.

So stop coming out with flannel.

Sorry

I agree with bellini

My comments are more for no deal...although i do think that any sort of disorderly brexit will cause damage as well

Rufus

You’re forgetting that charming Mr. Dyson, pillar of integrity.