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BoZo off today to ask Queen to suspend parliament

334 replies

longwayoff · 28/08/2019 10:22

Do we fancy a full on civil war? Have we all gone completely mad? This is democracy? AIBU to say this is several steps too far?

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Jesaminecollins · 28/08/2019 16:41

@Iggly

What exactly do you mean? I am not a bot I am someone who never wanted us to leave the EU and if we do leave I will take my small company and move to France.

Laniakea · 28/08/2019 16:42

My autocorrect makes corbyn = Corbin ... been driving me mad all afternoon

Jesaminecollins · 28/08/2019 16:42

I spell Corbyn, Corbin because his ideas need to be thrown in the bin!

BoneyBackJefferson · 28/08/2019 16:42

Milicentbystander72

Really, they should never have agreed to trigger Article 50. The argument should have been then.

This^

Mrsjayy · 28/08/2019 16:44

Why did satan Reece mogg go to Scotland is he our PM now ?

Iggly · 28/08/2019 16:47

Corbin because his ideas need to be thrown in the bin

Which ones?

Hasenstein · 28/08/2019 16:48

Jesaminecollins

I spell Corbyn, Corbin because his ideas need to be thrown in the bin!

The wittiness of your quip obviously passed me by.

theduchessstill · 28/08/2019 16:50

He's in the privy council. The whole shit show is showing up our democracy for the mess it is. Out dated and not fit for purpose. I wish we had a head of state who could actually do something.

GrouchoMrx · 28/08/2019 16:56

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BiBiBirdie · 28/08/2019 16:57

Yep, as I thought @Jesaminecollins, lacking in braincells.
Oh, where are my manners, your joke was soooo funny Hmm

Biologyquestion · 28/08/2019 16:58

Yes - how awful. We are upstanding in appearance only, and not even in appearance now.

Maybe we actually deserve everything that is coming to us Sad. If we go by the “we get the politicians we deserve” notion.

Biologyquestion · 28/08/2019 16:58

(That was in response to Groucho).

Mrsjayy · 28/08/2019 17:07

He's in the privy council. The whole shit show is showing up our democracy for the mess it is. Out dated and not fit for purpose. I wish we had a head of state who could actually do something.

I agree with you having a monarch who has no powers is as much use as a chocolate teapot !

whyamidoingthis · 28/08/2019 17:19

The other thing I don't understand about all this is why were already going ahead with party conferences in the middle of all of this. I know they happen at that time every year, but surely they should be postponed in the circumstances?

I know the prorogation means that's irrelevant now but I had been thinking that going ahead with the conferences, rather than trying to sort out this mess, just shows where priorities lie for all of them. Party before country every time.

ContinuityError · 28/08/2019 17:29

The PM was elected in line with procedure

Nope. Johnson was only elected as leader of the Tory party by a tiny minority of the UK electorate.

He is appointed to the role of PM.

theduchessstill · 28/08/2019 17:35

Agree with the pp that the conferences shouldn't be going ahead this year. Also ridiculous that they broke up for the summer recess. "Don't waste this time," said the EU after the extension was given... how embarrassing. We look like a failed state to the rest of the world, except to Trump, who's tweeted his approval. Tells you all you need to know.

Tonnerre · 28/08/2019 17:41

a democratic referendum was held , the majority voted to leave

Nope. No democratic referendum was held. The one we did hold was rendered wholly undemocratic by reason of major fraud on the Leave side.

Tonnerre · 28/08/2019 17:43

I wonder if the opposition parties plus the many disaffected Conservatives could decide not to hold party conferences (or, in the case of the Conservatives, boycott theirs) and convene their own Parliament instead?

time4chocolate · 28/08/2019 17:50

Nope. Johnson was only elected as leader of the Tory party by a tiny minority of the UK electorate

But that's how it's always worked and it's in line with procedure. No-one votes directly for a PM, you vote for your MP and the MPs/party members vote for leader/PM (and BJ won with a large majority). Same process was followed for Teresa May and Gordon Brown.

If you feel strongly about who you think should/should not be leader of a party then you pay for membership. There are people that did just that as they didn't want Boris Johnson as PM, that is how it works and how you get your say.

Milicentbystander72 · 28/08/2019 17:54

Just leaving this here again. Unelected PM's is historically completely normal.

BoZo off today to ask Queen to suspend parliament
Bahlindah · 28/08/2019 17:55

I agree with you having a monarch who has no powers is as much use as a chocolate teapot !
As much as Johnson's actions are grotesque, the only thing worse for our democracy would be the queen exercising her powers in any way other than us a rubber stamp.

You either care about democracy or don't. Johnson doesn't but that doesn't mean we should then want a Monarch to step in.

scaryteacher · 28/08/2019 17:57

Iirc this parliamentary session has lasted 340 days, so much longer than the previous record of 250. I think Boris will cobble something together with the EU on the backstop, tweak the WA, and try to get it through again. However, he needs a new session of parliament to do this, as it couldn't be reintroduced in the current session.

If that is his plan, the Tories are dead in the water and rightly so.

Grimbles · 28/08/2019 18:03

Ruth Davidson, leader of the Scottish Tories, is set to quit.

As an aside, if enough Tory MPs cross the floor or become independent to lose the majority, would that force an election?

SoupDragon · 28/08/2019 18:08

Same process was followed for Teresa May and Gordon Brown.

Yeah, and BoZo was SO supportive of it when Gordon Brown took over. 🙄 Hypocritical twat.

Bahlindah · 28/08/2019 18:09

Just leaving this here again. Unelected PM's is historically completely normal.
It absolutely is but that does not make an unelected PM proroguing parliament purely to frustrate our elected MP's ability to act as our representatives any less of an affront.