To want to know exactly what LGBT teaching in schools will entail?

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There has been lots of attention around the push to teach LGBT issues in schools - Birmingham being the flash point with many parents protesting. AIBU to have doubts about what is going to be taught and to want to know which orgs will be providing the material and exactly what this material teaches?

Most schools will announce visiting organisations.

What exactly is it that worries you?

Ask the school. Presumably it will mirror hetero sex education in being age appropriate, discussion of relationships etc. Just, not ignoring that some people have 2 mums, 2 dads, girls can like girls and boys can like boys type stuff.

Done properly, it's not specific LGBT teaching: just including all types of families in examples given. Previously, primary teaching about families has been very much just about mum & dad & 2 kids. Including blended families, single parents, grandparents as carers, foster & adoptive families, and same-sex couples, is part of being more inclusive. Add in mixed-race and mixed-faith families too.

See the McCain oven chips adverts for examples

I’m concerned that several LGBT charities are using the teaching about gay relationships and families as a cover to teach queer theory and gender ideology to kids. I know some of these charities are already misleading schools on the Equality Act 2010 by replacing protected characteristic SEX with gender identity - why are they doing this? I don’t want my kids taught gender identity and queer theory as fact.

What is queer theory?

Sounds like a bizarre book...

The best thing to do is ask your school. They should tell you exactly what they'll be teaching. Our school invite parents to view the material and resources they use. We've had no problems, it's all age appropriate.

Whats queer theory? I havent heard of that before.

I shouldn't worry. The likes of Sedgwick, Butler and Foucault are a bit advanced for pre-16 education.

Um I think that the goal is twofold. One to let kids know that there is nothing wrong with them if they are experiencing these feelings/questioning their own sexual or gender identity. And second to promote inclusiveness so that people don't bully or cast out those that are different from themselves in these respects.

I have to wonder why anyone would feel worried or threatened by those things? The idea is to make the world a kinder place. How can that be wrong?

What worries you? Why would these things being taught "as fact" harm you or your children? Reality is that these things ARE facts for many people. Why would denying people their identity be ok?

I mean it's the gender identity stuff that is worrying and it's being done under cover of gay rights.

True collapse happens at every level of society at once, from the state all the way down to the psyche.

If you want to bring a
society to the point where it will not resist, everything must be thrown into question (validly or otherwise, as long as there is confusion) all the way from the most abstract, grand and dearly held principles of political and moral philosophy that underpin the society's value systems, through the deconstruction of bourgeois relationships etc that constitute the "fabric of society", down to every single point of identity that might constitute "moral fibre" in a person.

Deconstructing the actual gender identity of an innocent child is end stage stuff. We are way, way past teaching kids mum and dad are idiots and the state owns them, God doesn't exist, patriotism is stupid, their own ancestors and elderly family are scum and so on. This is one of the very last possible points of certainty in a human being that might offer the possibility of mental health.

I would despair but what's the point.

I'd want to know too.
One person's fact is another person's opinion...

Families are all different. Boys can wear pink and be dancers, girls can wear blue and be doctors.

That, roughly, summarises the lgbt sex ed in primary.

YANBU.
This is a long read, but raises the concerns around queer theory.
The LBG stuff is fine IMHO, but the trans/non binary etc is confusing for young children.

www.transgendertrend.com/no-outsiders-queering-primary-classroom/

It is ridiculous that people like Alex Drummond, who is on the Stonewall board, goes into schools and explains that that are a trans lesbian. Alex has a full beard and only started identifying as a woman after a uni coarse in Gender Studies.
Not confusing for kids at all. 🙄

For those asking what queer theory is about, just watch the above short video. That's it in a nutshell.

What @TheMobileSiteMadeMeSignup and @HaileySherman have said.

But clearly the best thing to do, if this concerns you for some reason, is to ask your own dcs' school if you can look at the curriculum and the resources that are going to be used.

To add to my earlier post...
Neither of my teens are straight. Both of them have talked to me about how their primary school's SRE did not include how they knew they felt. Primary SRE has previously been entirely Straight & Cis and this alienates LGBT children.

They do know that they're different at this age. No child is made gay or trans by something said in school, but they are made to feel more different and isolated if they are excluded, accidentally or deliberately.

I already distrust likes of Stonewall and other charities on their stance on gender identity being prioritized over sex - so yes I’m wary with the information/teachings on what young kids should be taught as fact regarding gender identity/ideology

Have you actually spoken to the school?

I'd ask to have a look at their teaching materials and check that they're not using stuff like the gender unicorn and genderbread person which seem designed to confuse children into thinking that they should have a 'gender identity'.

This was entertaining the kids at Pride the other day - someone asked what Queer Theory was. I don’t want this being taught to my kids in school as fact

Safe Schools Alliance are worth contacting - they are absolutely on the ball with this. You are right to be concerned OP. Plenty of useful, inclusive stuff but also plenty of gender theory - anti-science, anti-biological fact, no evidence but presented as if it's accepted truth. Most pernicious is the sex-stereotyping that pushes 'tomboys' into believing they must be male, and boys who like pink teddybears that they must be female. Homophobic twaddle.

Have you actually spoken to the school?

don't be silly folks, this isn't about the school