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to dislike Extinction Rebellion

317 replies

Azeema · 26/08/2019 16:07

I live in farming village. We are getting in harvest.
But today on village green extinction rebellion has decided to have a party with drums, loud music and a megaphone. Green is right opposite care home for elderly.
I asked them, who are you protesting? There are no corporations here. Everyone is aware of environment as we grow your food.
They have been very rude, refusing to turn down noise despite disabled residents with migraines suffering.
They made me very upset talking about how England could grow own food and have lower footprint if not so many people (I’m an immigrant) looking at me like I should leave country.

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onioncrumble · 27/08/2019 13:43

They are knobs and a good reason not to allow the human race to evolve

Ravenblack · 27/08/2019 13:46

YANBU @Azeema

Although I love the planet and all the life on it with a passion, I LOATHE Extinction Rebellion. Full of over-privileged middle classes, upper-middle classes, and upper classes, all pissing about, causing trouble, and trying to fill their time.

They wouldn't be able to do all the shit they do, if they had jobs! AND they only ever do these 'demonstrations' when it's sunny and warm!

Pillocks. Hmm

QualCheckBot · 27/08/2019 13:51

wigglybeezer Still think comparing China and Iceland isn't valid.

Lets consider the country which produced Chernobyl, the most devastating man-made environmental disaster with worldwide impact in recent years. The Soviet Union. That bastion of communism, where covering up poor performance in a state controlled economy was considered more favourable than averting polluting Northern Europe for decades to come.

HelenaDove · 27/08/2019 13:56

Dont be too sure that people wont demo during winter

The student protests of November 2010?

Ravenblack · 27/08/2019 14:01

@HelenaDove

Yeah, a November protest, on a lovely nice shiny dry day. Wink

Wouldn't have seen a soul if it had been pissing down or snowing.

Also, I am not on about students protesting about tuition fees, I am on about Extinction Rebellion!!

So you really are making a pointless comment!

GhostsToMonsoon · 27/08/2019 14:15

Ravenblack - the April demonstrations were planned months in advance, well before XR knew it was going to be sunny! It might well be terrible weather for the October 7 protests. And plenty of demonstrators do have jobs - they may take something known as "annual leave", or they may be students, SAHPs or retired. Even if they are unemployed, they are allowed to care about the future of the planet. They know they are causing an unwelcome disruption, but say that decades of petitions, letter-writing etc haven't worked and this is the only way to get the government take notice and take action to avoid much bigger disruption in the future caused by climate change.

DoomsdayCult · 27/08/2019 14:18

@HelenaDove
I was going to apologise for mis-quoting you after you pointed out
“I didnt say it didnt affect the OP So quit gaslighting. I said she didnt seem too bothered about racism until it affected her PERSONALLY. Which seems to be the case in the UK for lots of things Its an "im alright jack" stance. Thats what i was saying.”

But, then I re-read your posts, and

“HelenaDove Mon 26-Aug-19 18:58:55
OP You dont see any problem with people burning an effigy of Grenfell but THIS you have a problem with.

Because it affects you.”

And

“HelenaDove Mon 26-Aug-19 19:17:41
It is wrong to disturb people in the way described. Im not disputing it. And its no ones business how many children OP but the last line in her OP intimates that she thinks racism is behind their attitude towards her. Which she cant be sure of. Yet sees nothing with the blatant racism involved in that effigy burning I smell a big ol" rat”

And

“HelenaDove Tue 27-Aug-19 00:58:17
"'m really sad that some pp's cant see the very obvious racism that OP experienced today"

Im sad that she couldnt see it either. Except when it was her who was affected . “

Nope, not one use of the word “personally”. Just repetitive comments that the OP only thinks one event has racist overtones because it affects her. If, as you now say, both events do effect her then the entire argument you were making would make no sense.

So, I think you actually owe me an apology for accusing me of “gaslighting.”

Confusedbeetle · 27/08/2019 14:19

I dislike them. So many people in UK are working so hard to slow down climate change. How do they think they can Emotive shouting and disruption will achieve nothingspeed it up? I doubt if most of them have any in depth knowledge.

HelenaDove · 27/08/2019 14:24

What do you think "because it affects you" means. Just because i didnt actually type the word personally. Hair splitting much.

Anyway duly noted I will make sure i include the word personally in big bold letters in future.

I think something isnt right here but im patient I can wait.

DoomsdayCult · 27/08/2019 14:27

@GhostsToMonsoon
“but say that decades of petitions, letter-writing etc haven't worked and this is the only way to get the government take notice and take action ”

?! Haven’t worked? Right. So our government has done absolutely nothing for the environment until 31 Oct 2018 when Extinction Rebellion came into being as our Eco-Messiah? Really?
And here I was thinking we had you know, passed clean air & water laws, banned toxic waste, started recycling, using solar and wind energy, driving zero emissions cars, built mass transit, brought back pandas and other species from the brink of extinction, committed to reducing carbon emissions to zero, actually reduced carbon emissions nationwide, implement wildlife and natural habitat conservation, worked internationally to help other countries do the same and all before 31 October 2018.

GhostsToMonsoon · 27/08/2019 14:30

DoomsdayCult - they don't say the government has done nothing, just that is has not done nearly enough, and is not being ambitious enough in its targets.

DoomsdayCult · 27/08/2019 14:30

@HelenaDove
“I think something isnt right here but im patient I can wait.”

I do in fact have ASD so I take things very literally. I read exactly what is written.

wigglybeezer · 27/08/2019 14:32

@QualCheckBot why does everyone think I'm pro communist FFS, I just think you can not form an argument based on comparing Iceland and China because they are too different, it would lose you marks in any High school Geography or Economics essay. I don't even vote green at the moment because the Scottish Green party is too far left for me, I'm more of a centrist. Stop trying to paint me as a naive ninny.

HelenaDove · 27/08/2019 14:33

Im sorry Doomsday I didnt mean to upset you . Something here just doesnt feel right.

DoomsdayCult · 27/08/2019 14:35

@HelenaDove
“Is clothing waste a concern of Extinction Rebellions. Why arent they demonstrating outside the schools that change their uniform every five minutes.”

This I completely agree with! Instead of protesting in a farming village, they would have been better off protesting outside our Academy Trust offices. They not only changed the uniform for second time in four years, but insist on synthetic fabrics. Which, as I am sure you know, degrade into micro-plastics.

DoomsdayCult · 27/08/2019 14:37

@HelenaDove
Hey, I’m not upset. I was just trying to explain why I do tend to split hairs. I was hoping that I had not upset you with my aspie-ness. It was unintentional.

HelenaDove · 27/08/2019 14:38

What pisses me off is people having a go at working class women for buying fast fashion when thats all they can afford. Someone on Universal Credit isnt going to be shopping at Karen Millen or People Tree,

Yet dont say a word about schools that keep changing their uniform or adding logos and other stupid details so items cant be passed on.

HelenaDove · 27/08/2019 14:39

Doomsday You havent honestly And i hope i havent upset you either Thanks

DoomsdayCult · 27/08/2019 14:40

@GhostsToMonsoon
Yes, that is true in the sense that governments have not viewed climate change as a crisis or emergency situation.

augustagain · 27/08/2019 14:41

How can one rebel against extinction anyway?! Confused

The dinosaurs were some bad-ass muthafukkaz and I am sure if they could have rebelled their way out of it, they would have!

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 27/08/2019 14:44

Lets consider the country which produced Chernobyl, the most devastating man-made environmental disaster with worldwide impact in recent years

Did it?

To humans yes, I get it. But you could argue its done wonders for the wildlife. Withput human disturbance, the forests around chernobyl are now teeming with rare species of wild fauna and flora, and with deer, boar and threatened species of birds. People now pay for the right to nature watch there.

timshelthechoice · 27/08/2019 14:48

What pisses me off is people having a go at working class women for buying fast fashion when thats all they can afford.

Oh, yeah. They're supposed to find all they need second hand. I have stuff I bought at Primark over 10 years ago.

wigglybeezer · 27/08/2019 14:48

You're all assuming XR supporters only turn out for the visible demos, from my experience it is highly unlikely to be the only thing they do, they are people who bother to turn up to local planning meetings, who write letters to school governor's about uniforms and councils about local transport. Who go on beach clean- ups and tree planting, who sit on allotment committees and support sustainable development charities every month. You just take them for granted and choose to ignore them until they cause inconvenience. And before anyone accuses me I do know people who do not like XR ( and I have some reservations) also contribute in the ways I have mentioned above.

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 27/08/2019 14:52

How can one rebel against extinction anyway?!

Grin Yes. One wonders.

QualCheckBot · 27/08/2019 14:59

CatheringOfAragon Did it? To humans yes, I get it. But you could argue its done wonders for the wildlife. Withput human disturbance, the forests around chernobyl are now teeming with rare species of wild fauna and flora, and with deer, boar and threatened species of birds. People now pay for the right to nature watch there.

People like you scare me.

Lets just ignore the acid rain, destroyed forests of northern Scandinavia, mutations in animals, congenital abnormalities that reproduce in later mammal generations, millions of poisoned fish, lichen-eating reindeer poisoning, abortions and mutations and it is estimated to have contributed to a rise of 1% in global temperatures

But you think that's all ok, because you've seen some images of weeds growing unchecked and you think its turned into a bloody wildlife park! Theres stupid, and then theres wilfully stupid.

"With tests revealing that the cesium-137 around Chernobyl is not decaying as quickly as predicted, scholars believe that the isotope will continue to harm the environment for at least 180 years—the time required for half the cesium to be eliminated from the affected areas by weathering and migration. Other radionuclides will perhaps remain in the region forever. The half-life of plutonium-239, traces of which were found as far away as Sweden, is 24,000 years."

But hey, if you like your wildlife with cataracts and albinism, with a high proportion of aborted, mutated foetuses, and a disturbing absence of gut bacteria meaning that protein changes will cause ongoing mutation throughout the generations, by all means head there to experience it for yourself.