to dislike Extinction Rebellion

[Azeema]

I live in farming village. We are getting in harvest.
But today on village green extinction rebellion has decided to have a party with drums, loud music and a megaphone. Green is right opposite care home for elderly.
I asked them, who are you protesting? There are no corporations here. Everyone is aware of environment as we grow your food.
They have been very rude, refusing to turn down noise despite disabled residents with migraines suffering.
They made me very upset talking about how England could grow own food and have lower footprint if not so many people (I’m an immigrant) looking at me like I should leave country.

Horrid benefit scroungers sorry!

Some of the assumptions on this thread are really weird. How on earth do you know the employment status of protestors, or what holidays they take, or what bloody brand of nappies their parents used when they were kids (a particularly odd hypothetical stick to beat them with).

“Hypocrisy” seems to be the current way of putting your fingers in your ears and pretending that there’s no need to make changes. We don’t have time for perfect.

As an aside I’m not really sure I see the issue with walking on grass either. It's on the floor.

When groups like this spring up suddenly, perfectly organized and are covered non-stop by the media, I always wonder who is funding them and what their real purpose is 🤔🤔

Its shitty to point out that OP wasnt too bothered about racism a few days ago......... oh ok then.

Excellent point @malificent7

So it's OK to have a noisy protest by an elderly persons home, as long as you agree with the objectives of the protest?

I don't think so.

There is a guy near me who has covered his driveway in junk. It's all attached to a scaffolding tower. And covered his house front and car in clay.

He has a big XR flag planted on top.

He the picks arguments on Facebook with everyone.

He has done nothing to endear people to the organisation!

They helped reignite public interest in climate change (good) but they are idiots. In London they blocked the bridges to all vehicles including emergency ambulances going to St Thomas's the cunts. After every protest, London Councils have to clean up their plastic bottles and sandwich cartons. They even hate TfL buses and cabs, which is shared public transport!

Again, cunts.

I did have a snort when I saw a load of the protesters queuing up in pret during the London sit in on Oxford street. They were all getting coffees in.....disposable cups! The girl serving even asked for their re usables assuming (as I would) that they’d be a bit more on it as they were there lecturing everyone else. I think they are coming from the right place but a lot of the ‘protesters’ are there for a jolly.

@QualCheckBot. very much sounds to me, and probably anyone else reading your post, that you had no idea about the UN report. Which is why you thought the data was from XR. You can’t backtrack now. You’ve already given your lack of knowledge on the subject away.
And I’m not going to get into a contest with anyone, I know I am doing everything I can personally and on a much larger scale. It’s not about narcissism, comparison or competition. I don’t need validation. But it sounds as if you do.

Fudege thats appalling

Dislike them or not we need more people getting involved in direct action to tackle this issue!

Didn’t they protest outside the wrong company in London once? The company they were protesting against had moved and so they ended up blocking employees of a green/eco company getting into work.

I agree with their motives and their work and think they have done a lot to raise awareness.

If someone looks at a foreigner with words "We need less people here so we can grow our own" (I assume UK being self sufficient), it's really obvious what they mean... How can anyone argue against that is beyond me and I am usually the devil's advocate😮

@Zackly you and me both! I hate being told what to do and how to live, especially by people who are complete hypocrites Emma Thompson

They don’t aim their protests at individuals

Well what do you call it when you have been waiting to start your chemo and it is cancelled because staff and yourself can't get to the hospital?

There I am struggling to make ends meet. Struggling with a painful disability finding transport difficult and needing to earn money, but I can't.

Meanwhile virtually almost completely white, (I don't use white privilege often as I find it distasteful in the main, but that's what it was) university educated, largely well paid, physically fit and abled (Yoga poses pushed that point home) middle class people, who literally represent the most privileged section of people on earth are directly preventing me and others from earning our crust. Then once they've decided that they've had their fun, they return to their jobs as lawyers, teachers etc, whilst I and many others are noticably poorer for the week?

Oh all while making ordinary people working in Londons jobs harder by having to constantly try and find routes to get people home?

Feels directed at individuals to me! Why didn't they go and camp outside some MPs homes and leave already struggling people to go about their business?

@Aberhonddu i didnt search anything . it was my thread she posted it on. I also have an excellent memory. So tend to remember stuff posted anyway

Their methods are entirely undermining their arguments. I can’t stand them.

After every protest, London Councils have to clean up their plastic bottles and sandwich cartons.

I saw a load of the protesters queuing up in pret during the London sit in on Oxford street. They were all getting coffees in.....disposable cups!

Yeah, they sound like they really care about the environment 👍🙄

BrightRight As an aside I’m not really sure I see the issue with walking on grass either. It's on the floor.

Its a hay field. It would be food for animals. Not now. No second cut now. Its all trampled, and god knows whats been trodden into it.

CalmAndQuiet very much sounds to me, and probably anyone else reading your post, that you had no idea about the UN report. Which is why you thought the data was from XR. You can’t backtrack now. You’ve already given your lack of knowledge on the subject away.
And I’m not going to get into a contest with anyone, I know I am doing everything I can personally and on a much larger scale. It’s not about narcissism, comparison or competition. I don’t need validation. But it sounds as if you do.

You really do come across as rather angry, aggressive and preachy. I don't know if you find preachy people annoying, but I do. I think most people do actually. If you are obsessed with reading the UN Report and no other formal sources, well, that's very nice for you but it doesn't make you as clever as you think you are.

I'm afraid I view ER and a lot of their supporters's sudden interest in the environment as somewhat fake and based on currently being in vogue. And there is of course an element of them which really, really enjoys trying to control people, and which probably doesn't ever get that much opportunity to do so otherwise.

tbh it doesn't bother me, its just a bit irritating to be preached to by people who don't know what they're talking about, who get all insulting when you treat them with slightly amused disdain. I'm actually perfectly placed and would only gain if non-essential car journeys were banned - I'm a superfast cyclist, and I own 3 horses!

But that's not going to happen, is it? Because ER folk need to get to their events...

I also wouldn't (a) try to use my obsession as a justification for interfering with other people's lives and (b) preaching to rural dwellers about something I know nothing about.

FWIW I really am not interested in getting into a semantic argument with a random on a social media site. If you need to do that, then I feel sad for you. You don't sound like you have much of a life.

I had a friend, then she went all militant vegan and Extinction Rebellion and got all preachy and sanctimonious and tedious in the extreme. The last straw was when she chewed a couple of us out for not going to protests - and we are all working poor who cannot afford to travel to the nearest city (costs about £30 to get there and back) some months, much less swanning all over the UK staying in hotels. I had to cut her off.

*If someone looks at a foreigner with words "We need less people here so we can grow our own" (I assume UK being self sufficient), it's really obvious what they mean... How can anyone argue against that is beyond me and I am usually the devil's advocate

This is Mumsnet. There's an awful lot of posters on here who strenuously deny that racism exists, on the basis that they have never seen any themselves.

YABU. The message needs to get across to everyone and it has to start somewhere. If they don’t do it, who will?

There are more ecological alternatives to capitalism...like socialism for example

Bit genocidey and starvey for some of us, but you feel free.