Aibu on flight

[perroy]

I was on an plane today. Family of four were travelling. One child with father in the seat in front of me and mother with another child in the seat behind me. Children were shouting, beeping a fictitious horn, making motor noises all through the flight. The parents were tickling them and making them squeal with laughter. It was a plane full of children and this family was noisy throughout the flight. All the other children had settled down in some time.

After the fifth time the child with the mother had got up on his seat and squealed in my ear I turned around and said SSSh quiet to the child.

The mother used profanities, showed me the finger and told me her child was only two.

Was I wrong to address the child when the parents were not taking any efforts to settle the children?

YWNBU, op. Parents need to remember that nobody else is enchanted by their child's outbursts. Your tried to signal to the parents that the children were becoming annoying, but they didn't respond. She was embarrassed so went into defence mode. It's her problem to dwell on, you should forget about it.

Ever heard of noise cancelling headphones? Or earplugs?

Ever heard of noise cancelling headphones? Or earplugs?

Ever heard of teaching your kids to do as they are bloody well told and to shut the fuck up and stop annoying other people? Nobody's got any manners or consideration for others these days.

Your all deluded.

You pay for a flight, you take the risk of there being children in the flight.

Suck it up and deal with it. There are ways to deal with it yourself.

We had this issue few weeks back, we were on a flight with our just turned 12month old, two long haul flights in a row to be exact.

Our baby decided at times, he didn't want to be there, totally understandable. Other people were not best pleased with his vocal objections.
They could sod off, we were sat in the designated baby section (bassinets on wall). They should have booked a seat further back.
Suck it up, use headphones, go to sleep, accept it. I don't care. It's only a short amount of time in a person's life.

"Your all deluded.

You pay for a flight, you take the risk of there being children in the flight.

Suck it up and deal with it. There are ways to deal with it yourself."

you are also deluded,

you pay for a flight, you take the risk of there being people who disapprove of your parenting techniques, who dislike their noise.

Suck it up yourself - having a baby is not like playing a trump card.

I find it so sad that the only way nowadays to avoid being disturbed by kids lacking manners is to avoid any places that might have such children, which are many.

Kids are kids. They are noisy and annoying. That's fine. What isn't are pare ts of the new generation who think this is acceptable and everyone should suffer the pain of their annoyance because these precious children should be free of being told to act differently.

What is wrong with a very gentle 'darling, this is a plane full of people and they don't want to hear all these loud noises, let's try to keep it down. Here, why don't we look at this picture book'. No it's much easier not to try to distract the kids with appropriate entertainment, much easier to pretend it's not happening whilst chatting with person next to them and the abusing the people who dare telling their kid to shhh.

Loud hyper kids really get in my nerves, ut they don't annoy me half as much as their sprefns who think their behaviour is acceptable or are too lazy to be bothered to do something about it.

The mother was encouraging the child to make a noise (tickling) and did not seem to be bothered about the tooting and shouting at another person's head. Also why was to toddler standing up? Sounds like a I can't be bothered to try to teach my child how to behave parent. YWNBU in being annoyed but you should have spoken with parent first albeit her unreasonable response then approached the crew for a resolution.

Suck it up, accept it. I don't care

There you have it - couldn't give a shit parenting!

Remember not to complain when somebody else's kid plays music too loud when you are trying to sleep, kicks a ball through your window, damages your car in the street, kicks the back of your seat in the cinema, runs endlessly round your table in a restaurant when you are out for a meal or disturbs your kids learning when they are at school.

All outcomes of 'my darling can do no wrong parenting' ''it's only a short amount of time in a persons life".

Most of us on mumsnet have kids, but recognise it's our obligation to go armed with solutions to the problems they may cause. We will not always successful and babies are particularly difficult to manage on flights, but expecting other people to suck it up is insufferably obnoxious!

Haha! I love how your attacking what I wrote, yet ignoring the facts:

1. Child is 12months old (you all forgotten how well that age flies?)
2. Sat in baby designated seats
3. Talking about a flight. So no silly non flight comparisons thanks.

She was not rude at all, I would have said a lot more. Obviously you are one of the special brigade who’s children can do what they like. It would have driven me mental and I would have definitely told him to shut up.

They could sod off, we were sat in the designated baby section (bassinets on wall). They should have booked a seat further back.
Suck it up, use headphones, go to sleep, accept it. I don't care. It's only a short amount of time in a person's life.

I can't book a seat further back because I can't walk that far.

Your 12 month old having a cry on the plane is completely different to having a 2yo standing on the seat behind and repeatedly screeching in your ear. I won't suck that up. My kids never did that and they were toddlers 20 years ago before we had tablets with endless episodes of kids tv for them to watch on planes.

1. Child is 12months old (you all forgotten how well that age flies?)
The child was 2, at an age that they should fully understand the concept of saying no, if not always responding accordingly.

I flew once on my own with my kids who were 3 and 14mnts old. The 14months old was a nightmare and in a mood to be a pain on the flight. Still I did everything in my power to try to minimise the disturbance. The worse part was when sitting on my lap and he made it a game to kick the seat in front. I kept trying to stop him doing so and certainly told him it was not nice to do as annoying to the man in front. I got up to apologise to the man, who was lovely and said he understood as he too had a small child at home, but I could tell he was being kind because I apologised before he had to ring it up and he could tell I was doing e erhthing to minimise the disturbance.

As others have said, it's the attitude of 'sucking it up because I can't be bothered to deal with it' that is infuriating.

To the poster who asked if I achieved success.

Yes it was very peaceful. The child didnt climb on the seat again.

They could sod off, we were sat in the designated baby section (bassinets on wall). They should have booked a seat further back.

Unfortunately the "designated baby section" is also the "designated extra legroom section" as I discovered to my cost.

Love how people are mixing together posts to make replies.

This is why I don't generally use forums. General population find it difficult to read

It’s a natural reaction if someone shouts in your ear to shush it. Why do some parents think it’s fine to let toddlers be screechy and annoying around other people. You’d think it would annoy them too.

Love how people are mixing together posts to make replies.

No they're not - they're trying to point out that the behaviour displayed by your 12 month old is irrelevant to the discussion.

The OP said what she said to an annoying 2YO.

Who - surprise, surprise - shut up after being shhhh'd.

You can't just tell a special needs to child to shut up, I'm glad you've never had the experience of dealing with a meltdown.

You can generally tell the parents of a special needs child - they are already telling the child to shush, and are glancing around apologetically to their neighbouring passengers. Parents of special needs children are not sitting there, ignoring the behaviour, and then flipping the bird to anybody else who goes near.

We often tell our autistic son to shush; and I wouldn't have an issue with anybody else trying to tell him to shush. He'll ignore them the same as he ignores us

Someone shushed MY child they would need their jaw resetting! If you do not like kids book a different flight/holiday. Stop being precious about a budget flight.

Yeah right mizz you're the bitch from hell.

Someone shushed MY child they would need their jaw resetting!

Yeah reckon

She wasn’t on a budget flight.

The mother gave you the middle finger?! WTAF?

Stop being precious about a budget flight.

So, standards of behaviour now depend on how much it costs?

So it's okay then to let your child drop litter if it's a council estate or be rude on a bus but they need to be polite and well behaved when going round a national trust castle? - oh fuck off!

Just take responsibility for teaching your child how to behave and not be a nuisance to the rest of society.