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For revoking an open invitation to stay?

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WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 23/08/2019 12:47

I write half hoping to cop a bashing so I am more motivated to do the right thing.

A dear and wonderful friend moved to another town for a work opportunity about 2 years ago. When she moved I gave her a key and told her she was welcome to use our spare bedroom whenever she wanted to come back.

Since then she’s been staying for 1-3 nights at a time about once a month. She’ll usually be back for one specific thing like a medical appointment or an engagement party but have no other plans. She keeps personal belongings in the spare room and stores larger items in our shed so our place serves as her hometown base.

She’s not loud or messy or ungrateful. But- she is underfoot. She is a homebody and mostly stays in, pottering about our living room/kitchen with cups of tea. She tends to come along if we go for brunch, to the park, walking with the children etc. Which is lovely but it eats into family time.

There is all the usual houseguest stuff- more laundry, more pressure to tidy up, an extra clean of the bathroom, the need to make polite chit chat first thing in the morning when I just want to stagger wordlessly towards the kettle. But for a few nights it’s no big problem.

She’s just texted to check that she can stay for 16-20 days straight while she does a professional course next week.

And I reeeeally don’t want to host her for that long.

My reasons (mostly selfish):

  • she’s recently stopped taking anxiety medication and the last time she stayed she spent each evening talking repetitively at length about very small problems that were obviously swirling around in her head. I spent a lot of time listening and being reassuring and supportive. But it was draining. It also took a lot of time away from the other things I normally get done in the evenings (life admin, laundry, catching up on work emails etc). I also find that stress in other people rubs off on me and I felt stressed for days after she left.
  • I’m 8 months pregnant and I. Am. Tired. I am sore. I don’t want more housework, more emotional labour, one more person to think about. When the children are asleep I want to plough through my To-Do list if I have any energy or switch off completely if I don’t.
  • We have easily excited toddlers and having an extra person in the house makes it that much harder to get them to focus and eat dinner, go to bed, stay in bed, all the usual toddler wrangling challenges.
  • DH and I are currently in marriage counselling and so valuing our privacy more than usual. Being alone once the children go to sleep gives us space to talk things through if we need to, but otherwise enjoy some downtime together. The next few weeks feel really important for this given we’re about to be back on the newborn/sleep deprivation train soon.
  • Our house has just the one living space which is open plan with the kitchen. A toddler sleeps in our bedroom. There’s nowhere to escape to.

My friend is a lovely kind person who would be there for me if I ever needed her. She hasn’t done anything wrong. When she moved I told her she would be welcome so suddenly saying no feels unfair. She knows we have the empty bedroom, so there’s no reason not to have her apart from simply not wanting to.

But I am running on empty and it feels (irrationally) like this one quiet houseguest will break me.

AIBU to say no this time? If not, how can I do it in a way that doesn’t hurt her feelings?

If I am BU, then please give me tips on managing houseguests with minimal effort. Sad

OP posts:
IHateUncleJamie · 23/08/2019 14:58

You made the offer TWO YEARS AGO?? Good grief. I thought this had only been going on a couple of months.

Big girl pants on, @WishingILivedOnAnIsland - you need to message her today. Don’t offer the first five days, she should have organised accommodation at the same time as booking the course. Your circs have changed massively since making the offer and you are no longer able to accommodate her.

WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 23/08/2019 14:58

@Perch Shock that is cheeky!

OP posts:
kateandme · 23/08/2019 15:01

oh hun ive not felt quite so much for a mn and her situation in quite some time.you sound strung out and more so with worry of this situation on top of that!
this is something you dont need.for all the reasons,for even one of the reason you put down you dont need thi on top.
you have to put yourself and you family first
you shouldnt be this stressed right before the birth either.it needs to bea calming time.you getting read to meet the new born.to get that right enviromtnet to come home to.
if she is a good freind she will understand.
nice people ar always nice when we get our own way.hat shows a great and good friend is someone that deals with our shit too.that deals with when things dont go right for them and they gt what they want.this is when they show who they are.
you have lots to contend with right now.so just be as honst as you are here with us.if i read this from a friend i would want to give them a big hug and sort my own self out.asking if i can come visit and help cook or take the toddler out for you and the dh.
please please let her know.you sound lovely and this wont take away from that.

lmusic87 · 23/08/2019 15:03

You've been very kind but she needs to find her own solution's now.

FamilyOfAliens · 23/08/2019 15:05

Don’t offer her 5 days, OP.

She must know you’re a kind person and that if she finds herself “unable” to sort out other accommodation, you will say she can stay the whole 20 days.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 23/08/2019 15:05

2 years? Bloody hell. I'm not surprised your poor DH is fed up with having his home invaded by her all the time.

Forget the 5 days. If she booked the course before asking you; thats up to her. Text her today. Then she may be able to cancel the course and get her money back.

Weird though, if it's not a work-related course (i.e. they won't fund it) but they're happy for her to take time off?

Anyway, that's not the issue here. She is. You do need to sort it.

Durgasarrow · 23/08/2019 15:07

She has done you a strange favor by pushing her grabbiness to the limits. By crossing the line16 daysshe surely must know she has overdone it. Of course she has a place to stay. It's called AirbnB.

MzHz · 23/08/2019 15:08

Send the text or get dh to write it and send it from your phone if you bottle it!

You have to nip this in the bud now!

WhatchaMaCalllit · 23/08/2019 15:08

You don't know that she's not doing something similar to @Perch's friend.
Time to nip this one in the bud (or probably at this time frame, fully fledged flower) and say that you're not able to accommodate her for this training session and you're glad she checked with you before she rocked up looking for a bed for the night (or 20). You've been meaning to have a word with her about her stays and this is perfect timing. Since you'll have a toddler and a baby in the house, you're rejigging the house around so the spare room will no longer be spare and you'd appreciate it if she could make time to collect her stuff as you'll need to be doing a bit of a clear out.

Whether she wants to move back to your town from the one she is in, she can't move in with you and your family. She needs to sort out a flat or something that she can stay in when she needs to be in your town that isn't your house.
She has contributed to the situation you find yourself in by not making any moves to say "Oh @WishingILivedOnAnIsland, you've been too generous and I think it's about time that I found a little place of my own for when I come to visit, you know, my own little space that I can really call mine. I hope you don't mind" but she hasn't. She is really taking liberties and needs to be shown that you can be a friend, a good friend and then you verge into the cheeky fucker territory and she is ever so just dipping her toe into that last category!

CalamityJune · 23/08/2019 15:08

YANBU. I wouldn't dream of using someone's hospitality that often- she's practically a lodger!

I can see why you feel awkward but tell her your reasons and she will have to get something else sorted. It's not your fault if she booked the course before speaking to you. She obviously knows you are due to have a baby very soon, so it seems really quite inconsiderate.

Durgasarrow · 23/08/2019 15:09

If she wants to get together and she's such a good friend, surely she'll be just as happy to catch up at a cafe as she would as your kitchen table.

FilledSoda · 23/08/2019 15:09

Her plan B is nothing to do with you.
It was a crazy offer in the first place , friend has taken total advantage of it and now you're hesitating to put a stop to it ?
She can never repay the hospitality you have shown her , the only decent response from friend now is ' thank you '.

SockMachine · 23/08/2019 15:10

"Hi Friend, The course sounds great. Do come for the first two days while you find your feet, but in truth now that I am 8 months pregnant and preparing things (including the guest room) for the move around when we have the baby, I can't host you beyond that. I could go into labour at any moment from next week on. "

She can get an AirBnB or something. If she tries to say 'oh, I'd move out as soon as you go into labour' just say 'no, I need my space from now'.

I think it was very cheeky, outrageous even, to ask to stay for such long time when you are 8 months pregnant.

Weezol · 23/08/2019 15:11

I'm thinking about offering for her to stay for the first 5 day

No! Just no!

This has been going on for two years?

You're housing and feeding an independent adult 30-40 days a year. No mention of offer of money/washing up/babysitting etc. Invites themselves along on outings.

Come on OP, you have to know this is no good for anyone but the 'friend'. Please stop being so passive and put a stop to it.

Lilaclady9 · 23/08/2019 15:11

You sound like such a lovely and generous friend, OP. Unfortunately people do take advantage of such generosity and hospitality especially when it's repeatedly one-sided, and that's what's happened here.

I would tell her all the reasons you listed in your post. The biggest one being that you're 8 months pregnant! You need to rest as much as you can before the baby comes. Being pregnant is exhausting! And to be honest, your friend is being incredibly cheeky to assume it will be okay to stay for 2-3 weeks just before your baby arrives (and the baby could come early!) Tell her firmly but politely no, you've done your fair share of hosting her and now you are expecting a major life change and it will no longer be possible to continue your arrangement. You shouldn't feel obliged to keep this up after the baby is born, even in six months time!

Agree with @flouncyfanny - change the locks / don't hand out spare keys in future!

Drum2018 · 23/08/2019 15:13

Don't offer 5 days, don't even offer 1 day. Just send a text now - you've had plenty of suggestions of what to say in order to stop this ridiculous arrangement. Rip the plaster off - you'll feel lighter when it's done.

BossAssBitch · 23/08/2019 15:14

I think your friend is a bit of a CF, she stays way too often and you have so much on, if not a CF, she is seriously lacking in self awareness. YANBU

Tonnerre · 23/08/2019 15:14

She’s just texted to check that she can stay for 16-20 days straight while she does a professional course next week.

As she's checking, she must be aware that the answer may be no. It's perfectly reasonable to say it's not going to be possible given your state of health and that, with the new baby, the arrangement will have to come to an end anyway, so could she send the key back. What she does about accommodation during the course really isn't your problem.

dustarr73 · 23/08/2019 15:16

Be easier to pull the whole thing than offer her 5 days.Because the sob stories will start.And you wont get her to leave after 5 days.

What if your baby arrives early.You really dont want extra people there.Send her a text now,rescinding all offers.

Ginger1982 · 23/08/2019 15:19

Don't give her 5 days. It'll end up being longer! Presumably you've been saving her the cost of accommodation all the other times she's stayed, assuming you house and possibly feed her for free? It's time she stood on her own two feet.

KUGA · 23/08/2019 15:25

YANBU.
Tell her you have a family member stopping for awhile.
But you can come on such and such a date.
That way she wont be upset and you will remain friends.

SunshineCake · 23/08/2019 15:25

You have been a lovely friend but it is time to get your house back. Toddler needs their own room and you and your husband need privacy. Plus you can't have a newborn and a toddler in your room..

GrandmaSteglitszch · 23/08/2019 15:28

Life was different two years ago when I made the offer. I meant it at the time and for sometime after. It's just too much now.

That's all you need to tell her.

Don't suggest 5 days, or visits after the birth.
It's too much for you now. End of story.

If she's a good, lovely friend she'll happily make other arrangements.

InvisibleWomenMustBeRead · 23/08/2019 15:31

Agree with everyone else Op - tell her circumstances have changed now and it'll no longer be possible for her to stay and therefore it's a no this time and in future and you'll need your key back. Her accommodation for the course is not your problem to sort.

I'm another who thinks that your problems with your DH might be reduced if this situation stops - you won't even have realised the pressure her stays will have put on you both. Time to get your home back.

Branleuse · 23/08/2019 15:31

Can you tell her that with being so heavily pregnant and that you're undergoing relationship counselling, that its really bad timing and while 1 or 2 nights is fine, you can't host her for the entire time

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