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For revoking an open invitation to stay?

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WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 23/08/2019 12:47

I write half hoping to cop a bashing so I am more motivated to do the right thing.

A dear and wonderful friend moved to another town for a work opportunity about 2 years ago. When she moved I gave her a key and told her she was welcome to use our spare bedroom whenever she wanted to come back.

Since then she’s been staying for 1-3 nights at a time about once a month. She’ll usually be back for one specific thing like a medical appointment or an engagement party but have no other plans. She keeps personal belongings in the spare room and stores larger items in our shed so our place serves as her hometown base.

She’s not loud or messy or ungrateful. But- she is underfoot. She is a homebody and mostly stays in, pottering about our living room/kitchen with cups of tea. She tends to come along if we go for brunch, to the park, walking with the children etc. Which is lovely but it eats into family time.

There is all the usual houseguest stuff- more laundry, more pressure to tidy up, an extra clean of the bathroom, the need to make polite chit chat first thing in the morning when I just want to stagger wordlessly towards the kettle. But for a few nights it’s no big problem.

She’s just texted to check that she can stay for 16-20 days straight while she does a professional course next week.

And I reeeeally don’t want to host her for that long.

My reasons (mostly selfish):

  • she’s recently stopped taking anxiety medication and the last time she stayed she spent each evening talking repetitively at length about very small problems that were obviously swirling around in her head. I spent a lot of time listening and being reassuring and supportive. But it was draining. It also took a lot of time away from the other things I normally get done in the evenings (life admin, laundry, catching up on work emails etc). I also find that stress in other people rubs off on me and I felt stressed for days after she left.
  • I’m 8 months pregnant and I. Am. Tired. I am sore. I don’t want more housework, more emotional labour, one more person to think about. When the children are asleep I want to plough through my To-Do list if I have any energy or switch off completely if I don’t.
  • We have easily excited toddlers and having an extra person in the house makes it that much harder to get them to focus and eat dinner, go to bed, stay in bed, all the usual toddler wrangling challenges.
  • DH and I are currently in marriage counselling and so valuing our privacy more than usual. Being alone once the children go to sleep gives us space to talk things through if we need to, but otherwise enjoy some downtime together. The next few weeks feel really important for this given we’re about to be back on the newborn/sleep deprivation train soon.
  • Our house has just the one living space which is open plan with the kitchen. A toddler sleeps in our bedroom. There’s nowhere to escape to.

My friend is a lovely kind person who would be there for me if I ever needed her. She hasn’t done anything wrong. When she moved I told her she would be welcome so suddenly saying no feels unfair. She knows we have the empty bedroom, so there’s no reason not to have her apart from simply not wanting to.

But I am running on empty and it feels (irrationally) like this one quiet houseguest will break me.

AIBU to say no this time? If not, how can I do it in a way that doesn’t hurt her feelings?

If I am BU, then please give me tips on managing houseguests with minimal effort. Sad

OP posts:
MyCatHatesEverybody · 23/08/2019 13:23

She's given you barely any notice - that's not on. Many people are lovely and kind when they're getting their own way. A lovely and kind person would have checked with you before before booking their course. As to what she'll do if you can't put her up - well she'd do what anyone else would do who didn't have a friend with a spare room in the area and book into a b&b.

What has she actually done (not offered) for you?

Please put your marriage first for the sake of yourself and your family, not some woman who's moved away. If she's a genuine friend she'll still be there for you if you say no.

dollydaydream114 · 23/08/2019 13:23

Of course YANBU. The unreasonable thing you did was give your friend a key and an open offer to stay whenever she liked in the first place!

"Hi Friend, I'm really sorry but we're going to need our spare room for our toddler now that that our new baby is about to arrive, and what with the new arrival coming any day and now and DH and I going through marriage counselling, we also really need a lot of space to ourselves right now. It's been lovely having you to stay and I hope we'll still meet up a lot of course, but we're not going to be able to host you overnight any more - and we also need back the storage space you're using."

Is she self-employed? If not, her work should clearly be paying for accommodation if she's doing a training course they've organised. Where I work, if you have to work away you can either stay at specific hotels which my employer pays for along with an evening meal, or you can stay with family and get a small allowance per day - so if that's the case for her she'll actually be making a profit from staying with you while you feed her and do her bloody laundry!

Chamomileteaplease · 23/08/2019 13:23

Remind yourself that your friend's accommodation issues are not for you to sort out. She has asked you, you are (hopefully) going to say no. It is now for her, a fully grown adult, to find an alternative.

You have enough going on in your own life.

Tell her Smile

Rachelover40 · 23/08/2019 13:24

It's a difficult situation to navigate and I feel for you, you've been lovely. She is probably a nice person too and values your friendship and generosity.

I think what kitK said at the beginning of the page is spot on.

A lesson to us all not to issue open invitations (I've been there, so has my son).

CakeNinja · 23/08/2019 13:24

I think @Thehop penned a great response.
I’m not sure dp or I would ever give a friend a key to come and stay at our house whenever they wanted though.
We have no problem with overnight guests etc but it’s just a bit of a Liberty coming and going as she pleases no matter how lovely she is.

AryaStarkWolf · 23/08/2019 13:26

What on Earth possessed you to give her a key!!?? She's really taking the piss

ittakes2 · 23/08/2019 13:26

Just tell her you and hubby are going through a rough patch and you are really sorry but the timing is not great. She is your friend and she should understand - if she doesn't after everything you have done for her than I think maybe she would not be such a good friend afterall!

dollydaydream114 · 23/08/2019 13:29

Also ... if it genuinely hasn't occurred to her that someone who has a toddler and is only four weeks away from giving birth might want a break from hosting house guests, she isn't quite as a lovely as you think.

sackrifice · 23/08/2019 13:29

'thanks for asking, I've been meaning to let you know that the toddler is moving into the spare room this weekend actually, before the baby gets here. So we'll have to knock the visits on the head now. All good things come to an end lol'.

viques · 23/08/2019 13:29

You are a kind friend, and have been remarkably generous with your time and hospitality. Unfortunately I think your friend has gradually come to take this for granted, sees your home as a little place she can get away to for a few days when she fancies a change, and as a handy place to store stuff she doesn't need or want but can't be bothered to sort out.

But things in your house are about to change radically. A new baby and a toddler means that your living space needs to be re organised . You will also be doubling your childcare responsibilities, a demanding toddler in the day, a non sleeping baby at night. Obviously your marital difficulties will add to this stress, but I don't think you need to be sharing that with your friend.

You do need to tell her however, that much as you have enjoyed her company , and hope to do so again in the future, she needs to realise that the present arrangement will no longer work for you. You no longer have the room to accommodate her, and although you look forward to seeing her again after the baby is born and when you are more settled, it will not be possible for her to stay over as previously was the case. Nor unfortunately will you be able to put her up for the duration f her training course .

Personally I would hold fire at the moment about the stuff you are storing, if she is experiencing anxiety then a double whammy of no bedroom and no storage could be hard to take. If the stuff can stay in the shed for a while maybe you can broach that subject in a few more months.

sunshinesupermum · 23/08/2019 13:29

Dear OP, you, your DH and your child come first. If your friend doesn't understand that (and I appreciate she has anxiety problems) it is not your problem. Flowers

MrsExpo · 23/08/2019 13:30

I agree with everyone else. Tell her it's not convenient due to imminent arrival of your baby and your need to use "her" room for your toddler, a nursery or whatever. Soften the blow a bit if you must by looking for a nice Airbnb/guesthouse or whatever nearby. Is she planning to go home for the intervening weekends? If so, you'll be about to deliver a baby by the time she's finished her course. Just not convenient.

MinisterforCheekyFuckery · 23/08/2019 13:30

Honestly, in your DH's shoes I'd be really fed up of this. You both must have the patience of saints and it's possible that your friend know this and is taking liberties as a result. Quite apart from saving yourself the additional stress (which is reason enough!) I think that nipping this in the bud now would also send a message to your DH that you're prioritising your marriage and that's really important if you're in counseling. You know the frequency of these visits is "grating" on him but if this arrangement carries on indefinitely grating could turn into resentment. Once the baby comes you won't have as much time to devote to your relationship so this time is precious and if she's your friend she should get that.

MatildaTheCat · 23/08/2019 13:32

The hops message is bang on. I would also say that going forward you will be changing things around and although it’s been lovely having her to stay it will probably need to be reduced going forward as you’ve been having some problems and been advised by your counsellor to cut back on guests and any additional commitments beyond your immediate family.

Blaming a third party is always handy Smile!

converseandjeans · 23/08/2019 13:32

Things are different from when you made the offer. Toddler plus baby is imminent. You can't really have someone as a house guest when you're about the have a baby. I think you should just say to her the truth - that you're not able to host with the baby about to arrive. Honestly - I think you would have been best asking for a small token amount from her. It's a very generous offer to give her the key and let her come as she wants to. I think you should also start making the room how you want it going forward - give her some warning though. You say you have no space downstairs - you could use the spare room as chill out room - somewhere to go with the new baby.

dottiedodah · 23/08/2019 13:33

I think you have already gone above and beyond what a friend can offer TBH!.Even if you wernt pregnant and exhausted 3 to 4 weeks is a bit of a cheek really.Just explain you dont mind her coming over now and then but with the new baby it will probably be too much .If shes a good friend she will understand.Maybe say you could do with the key back as you cant find a spare !.Who turns up and assumes they are all going to Lunch?.Seems like you have been a bit too generous here.You and hubby need time together and when baby comes to be close and enjoy the first few weeks bonding (As a Couple/family !)

Aderyn19 · 23/08/2019 13:34

If this was me I'd tell her that DH and I were on the brink of divorce, undergoing counseling and therefore couldn't have anyone to stay for the foreseeable future. That way you get the house back but not in a way that makes her feel unwanted or that it is personal. Literally no one could take offence at being told no under those circumstances.

converseandjeans · 23/08/2019 13:34

Just blame DH. I also agree she is cheeky to book course then ask to stay. She must know it's a long stretch of time.

Ginger1982 · 23/08/2019 13:36

This is nuts. I can't believe she would think it ok to stay with you for the best part of a month whilst you are close to giving birth or might even have given birth! Sorry, you need to nip this in the bud now!

Girlwhowearsglasses · 23/08/2019 13:36

Don’t do it! Don’t feel bad!

Cassilis · 23/08/2019 13:37

OMG I felt suffocated reading that.

I would tell her that due to all the reasons above her stay can't work you. Also, ask for your key back because your mum needs it to help with new baby. And then never give her the back and tell her unfortunately her stopping over no longer works for you due to growing family.

Cassilis · 23/08/2019 13:37

*her staying doesn't work for you

MolyHolyGuacamole · 23/08/2019 13:38

Easy one! 'Due to us having another baby, we've now converted the spare into a bedroom for toddler, so won't be able to host guests anymore, I'm afraid'.

Or have a relative already booked for that time period.

RuffleCrow · 23/08/2019 13:38

Why did you tell her she can stay whenever she likes then get pissed off when she takes you up on it?

I wish people would make these grand empty gestures in the first place. If you're the kind of person who hates the inconvenience of regular house guests then don't encourage a friend to become a regular house guest!

RuffleCrow · 23/08/2019 13:39

*wouldn't

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