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For revoking an open invitation to stay?

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WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 23/08/2019 12:47

I write half hoping to cop a bashing so I am more motivated to do the right thing.

A dear and wonderful friend moved to another town for a work opportunity about 2 years ago. When she moved I gave her a key and told her she was welcome to use our spare bedroom whenever she wanted to come back.

Since then she’s been staying for 1-3 nights at a time about once a month. She’ll usually be back for one specific thing like a medical appointment or an engagement party but have no other plans. She keeps personal belongings in the spare room and stores larger items in our shed so our place serves as her hometown base.

She’s not loud or messy or ungrateful. But- she is underfoot. She is a homebody and mostly stays in, pottering about our living room/kitchen with cups of tea. She tends to come along if we go for brunch, to the park, walking with the children etc. Which is lovely but it eats into family time.

There is all the usual houseguest stuff- more laundry, more pressure to tidy up, an extra clean of the bathroom, the need to make polite chit chat first thing in the morning when I just want to stagger wordlessly towards the kettle. But for a few nights it’s no big problem.

She’s just texted to check that she can stay for 16-20 days straight while she does a professional course next week.

And I reeeeally don’t want to host her for that long.

My reasons (mostly selfish):

  • she’s recently stopped taking anxiety medication and the last time she stayed she spent each evening talking repetitively at length about very small problems that were obviously swirling around in her head. I spent a lot of time listening and being reassuring and supportive. But it was draining. It also took a lot of time away from the other things I normally get done in the evenings (life admin, laundry, catching up on work emails etc). I also find that stress in other people rubs off on me and I felt stressed for days after she left.
  • I’m 8 months pregnant and I. Am. Tired. I am sore. I don’t want more housework, more emotional labour, one more person to think about. When the children are asleep I want to plough through my To-Do list if I have any energy or switch off completely if I don’t.
  • We have easily excited toddlers and having an extra person in the house makes it that much harder to get them to focus and eat dinner, go to bed, stay in bed, all the usual toddler wrangling challenges.
  • DH and I are currently in marriage counselling and so valuing our privacy more than usual. Being alone once the children go to sleep gives us space to talk things through if we need to, but otherwise enjoy some downtime together. The next few weeks feel really important for this given we’re about to be back on the newborn/sleep deprivation train soon.
  • Our house has just the one living space which is open plan with the kitchen. A toddler sleeps in our bedroom. There’s nowhere to escape to.

My friend is a lovely kind person who would be there for me if I ever needed her. She hasn’t done anything wrong. When she moved I told her she would be welcome so suddenly saying no feels unfair. She knows we have the empty bedroom, so there’s no reason not to have her apart from simply not wanting to.

But I am running on empty and it feels (irrationally) like this one quiet houseguest will break me.

AIBU to say no this time? If not, how can I do it in a way that doesn’t hurt her feelings?

If I am BU, then please give me tips on managing houseguests with minimal effort. Sad

OP posts:
Mummyoflittledragon · 23/08/2019 15:32

That is bonkers. You could go into labour while she’s there and end up with an emergency c section. It is absolutely a too big ask.

BackOnceAgainWithABurnerEmail · 23/08/2019 15:32

She’s not in a pinch of your making. She’s saved loads of money staying with you over the years.

Just say no.

‘Dear friend, thanks for checking. I was actually going to contact you about staying with us. As you know, I’m 8 months pregnant and life will be very different for us once baby is here. That means we won’t be able to host you as often as we currently do and we also need use of our spare room and she’s so are going to need you to take your stuff to your house. We’ll have you to stay again of course but not as frequently. With how pregnant I am we won’t be able to help you out with your course accommodation.’

BackOnceAgainWithABurnerEmail · 23/08/2019 15:32

Shed not she’s

BackOnceAgainWithABurnerEmail · 23/08/2019 15:34

And if she hasn’t been paying her way, taking you for dinners etc when she’s been staying actually she’s a CF who’s expecting you to treat her like another child and you should feel no guilt at ending the gravy train.

Vanhi · 23/08/2019 15:39

Thanks all. I feel bad because it sounds like she's already enrolled in the course and I don't know where else she could stay. I'd be leaving her in the lurch.

You're not leaving her in the lurch. This is all on her. She is an adult. She can't assume that after 2 years you would be OK with her spending about a month staying with you. She can stay BnB or a hotel like anyone else. Do not offer her the first 5 days. And learn to put your needs ahead of others' sometimes.

Dutch1e · 23/08/2019 15:46

Life was different two years ago when I made the offer. I meant it at the time and for sometime after. It's just too much now.

If I was OPs friend this is all I would need to hear, it says it all without fluff or negativity.

Boysey45 · 23/08/2019 15:46

Just say its not convenient you are due any day now and are too busy.Direct her to look for air b and bs or a Travelodge.

Honeyroar · 23/08/2019 15:47

Id not be impressed to have my husband's friend staying that often for so many months, and I'd be livid if they invited themselves for half a month. You've been stupidly generous already, too kind. It sounds like your friend needs to move back! Use the excuse that your pregnancy is wearing you out and you need to think about moving a child into that spare room soon anyway, so needed an opportunity to discuss scaling back a bit on visits. Tell her you still love her to bits, but you need more family time.

Blondebakingmumma · 23/08/2019 15:51

If she is looking for reasons to come home, it’s time she looked for her own place. Use your pregnancy and upcoming newborn phase to stop the arrangement. Break it to her gently. You cannot keep having her because you are too far along, need to renovate the spare room etc

Honeyroar · 23/08/2019 15:54

True Dutch1e.

Belfield · 23/08/2019 15:55

your friend can stay in an Air BnB. I would just say that you are too advanced with pregnancy and are going to prepare the room for the impending birth/move of toddler etc. It is up to you if you want to discuss DH and counselling etc. I personally think it is overkill as you do not owe it to her to go into great lengths as to why she cant stay. I'm 8 months pregnant so sorry should be enough.

Pheasantplucker2 · 23/08/2019 15:59

Honestly, just say no. Text back and say "We can't put you up this time - the baby is due imminently and we're rearranging the house for the new arrival. Hope you find somewhere to rent - I think 16-20 days is a big ask for anyone!" No sorry, no offering to find her other accommodation. It's her problem not yours!

Witchinaditch · 23/08/2019 15:59

I’d explain the above reasons and I’m sure she would understand. It’s not ideal to host someone especially when you are in the 8th month of pregnancy. You are not being unreasonable by putting your health and heath of marriage/home life before her needs.

Josephinebettany · 23/08/2019 16:04

The fact you are 8 months pregnant is your very understandable excuse

MyCatHatesEverybody · 23/08/2019 16:09

No to the 5 days. Your DH already finds 1-3 days a bit much and he deserves some consideration too. Do you have form for putting others (excluding your DC) before him?

seven201 · 23/08/2019 16:10

Just say no. Tell her your reasons if you want to. A good friend would understand. She'll find somewhere else to stay for the course or she'll have to cancel it.

nearlynermal · 23/08/2019 16:18

Oh yeah. OP, this is a total no-brainer. You just can't do it. And, luckily, over and above the personal irritations, you have some absolutely justifiable reasons to say no without causing offense. If she's a nice lady she should totally understand!

(Plus, maybe new baby etc. will give you a chance to start weaning her off your hospitality for the future?)

SleepingSoul · 23/08/2019 16:19

It's not you who's put her in this situation OP. E ven someone who interpreted the offer to stay as "come every wkend and store loads of stuff here" rather than visiting a few times a year knows this length of time is a massive ask even if you weren't heavily pregnant.

Dear friend, I'm sorry but with baby due imminently I'm getting things sorted which means spare room is now in use and I'm exhausted so it won't be possible. Next time you're back it would be good to have a proper chat as I'm afraid the current arrangement isn't going to work once the baby arrives.

allteanoshade · 23/08/2019 16:30

Definitely don't agree to this OP! I wouldn't even agree to the 5 days. You're 8 months pregnant and having marriage counselling with a husband who finds her visits grating... this could be the final straw for your relationship with DH, not to mention your own health comes before her course. She should have checked this with you before enrolling.

If I were you I'd text back saying "Sorry but the spare room is going to be used as a nursery/playroom for the newborn. DH is in the process of getting things prepared in there across the next month so unfortunately we don't have room anymore." and hopefully that stops her asking to stay in future too.

CardinalCat · 23/08/2019 16:41

I completely agree with Backonceagain

She is NOT in a pinch of YOUR making at all, come on woman!!

You need to seize this opportunity to address the whole issue, and say 'I'm so glad you raised this, I've been meaning to speak to you about our arrangement.'...
And explain that you are going to need the room back as your toddler is at an age now where they need that room, and you'll also need it for the not-on-nightduty parent to sleep in when the newborn is here and being settled by the on-nightduty parent. That is basic bloody common sense.
Whoever on EARTH would think that it would be appropriate to lodge with a family with a newborn is absolutely batshit. Same goes for imposing on a woman who could give birth AT ANY MINUTE. Your friend actually is being a bit of CF and, in her defence, you sound absolutely wonderful OP and therefore I suspect that you have made her feel so much part of the immediate family that she has started to believe it herself, which is why she is taking liberties. But she's not- and you and your husband need your space right now. You need to be very firm OP and you need to do it now.

Weezol · 23/08/2019 17:21

She's not in a pinch - she has many options available to her that don't involve you.

For revoking an open invitation to stay?
NoSquirrels · 23/08/2019 17:31

Tell her you and DH are alternating sleeping in the spare room at the moment because late pregnancy and toddler in your room, and that’s pretty much going to be the case from now on until toddler moves up there.

And that of course you feel bad about it but really if you said yes to her staying at the moment it would tip everyone over the edge! So you’re really sorry but no.

BackOnceAgainWithABurnerEmail · 23/08/2019 17:50

No, don’t lie. Tell her honestly. She cant stay!

GrandmaSteglitszch · 23/08/2019 17:52

Never mind giving her details of your sleeping arrangements or anything else.

It's now too much for you to have a frequent house guest, and certainly not at the moment or for several months after the birth of baby.

Tldr : "You can't stay with us - get over it".

GorkyMcPorky · 23/08/2019 17:59

I really think that monthly visits are taking the piss unless you actually said you'd be happy for her to stay so regularly and for so long. YANBU.

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