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For revoking an open invitation to stay?

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WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 23/08/2019 12:47

I write half hoping to cop a bashing so I am more motivated to do the right thing.

A dear and wonderful friend moved to another town for a work opportunity about 2 years ago. When she moved I gave her a key and told her she was welcome to use our spare bedroom whenever she wanted to come back.

Since then she’s been staying for 1-3 nights at a time about once a month. She’ll usually be back for one specific thing like a medical appointment or an engagement party but have no other plans. She keeps personal belongings in the spare room and stores larger items in our shed so our place serves as her hometown base.

She’s not loud or messy or ungrateful. But- she is underfoot. She is a homebody and mostly stays in, pottering about our living room/kitchen with cups of tea. She tends to come along if we go for brunch, to the park, walking with the children etc. Which is lovely but it eats into family time.

There is all the usual houseguest stuff- more laundry, more pressure to tidy up, an extra clean of the bathroom, the need to make polite chit chat first thing in the morning when I just want to stagger wordlessly towards the kettle. But for a few nights it’s no big problem.

She’s just texted to check that she can stay for 16-20 days straight while she does a professional course next week.

And I reeeeally don’t want to host her for that long.

My reasons (mostly selfish):

  • she’s recently stopped taking anxiety medication and the last time she stayed she spent each evening talking repetitively at length about very small problems that were obviously swirling around in her head. I spent a lot of time listening and being reassuring and supportive. But it was draining. It also took a lot of time away from the other things I normally get done in the evenings (life admin, laundry, catching up on work emails etc). I also find that stress in other people rubs off on me and I felt stressed for days after she left.
  • I’m 8 months pregnant and I. Am. Tired. I am sore. I don’t want more housework, more emotional labour, one more person to think about. When the children are asleep I want to plough through my To-Do list if I have any energy or switch off completely if I don’t.
  • We have easily excited toddlers and having an extra person in the house makes it that much harder to get them to focus and eat dinner, go to bed, stay in bed, all the usual toddler wrangling challenges.
  • DH and I are currently in marriage counselling and so valuing our privacy more than usual. Being alone once the children go to sleep gives us space to talk things through if we need to, but otherwise enjoy some downtime together. The next few weeks feel really important for this given we’re about to be back on the newborn/sleep deprivation train soon.
  • Our house has just the one living space which is open plan with the kitchen. A toddler sleeps in our bedroom. There’s nowhere to escape to.

My friend is a lovely kind person who would be there for me if I ever needed her. She hasn’t done anything wrong. When she moved I told her she would be welcome so suddenly saying no feels unfair. She knows we have the empty bedroom, so there’s no reason not to have her apart from simply not wanting to.

But I am running on empty and it feels (irrationally) like this one quiet houseguest will break me.

AIBU to say no this time? If not, how can I do it in a way that doesn’t hurt her feelings?

If I am BU, then please give me tips on managing houseguests with minimal effort. Sad

OP posts:
lola006 · 23/08/2019 14:11

OP, unless your friend knows about the marriage counselling already, please don’t tell her unless your DH is warned in advance. It’s none of her business and could create a problem between your DH and you.

I’d simply text “I’m so sorry but with the baby coming soon I’m just not up to having any guests. I’ve enjoyed your visits and will again in the future but for now I need to put the brakes on house guests for awhile. I hope we can do lunch/tea/whatever when you’re here, let me know when you’re free?”

HeyMonkey · 23/08/2019 14:17

16-20 days in an absolute piss take and completely INSANE.

I think you need to be straight up with her and tell her that you are heavily pregnant, having marriage counselling, exhausted, and just can't do it going forward,. You had the best intentions and were very kind in the past, but 1-3 days a month even is a hell of a lot to expect. I sounds like she has become accustomed to the situation and is taking it for granted, probably not even intentionally.

ReTooth · 23/08/2019 14:19

lola06 s simple suggested text is good but if it were me I’d give her a call and speak to her.

PuppyMonkey · 23/08/2019 14:20

I love all these texts. Can I do one?

“Dear friend, sorry we can’t help out this time and will have to rethink this arrangement with new baby imminent. Hope the course goes ok xx”

dustarr73 · 23/08/2019 14:24

She booked the course beforerunning it by you @WishingILivedOnAnIsland thats not being kind.Thats someone who has their feet well and truly under the table.

I wouldnt tell her about you and your DH troubles,its nothing to do with her.I would say you cant have visitors.Baby is due and trying to get toddler sorted.She cant get offended to that,because its the truth.And if she does,well you have dodged a bullet.

Destinesia · 23/08/2019 14:25

will she just be staying for the weeknights or will she stay weekends as well?

ReTooth · 23/08/2019 14:27

She booked the course beforerunning it by you @WishingILivedOnAnIsland thats not being kind.Thats someone who has their feet well and truly under the table

That’s a bit of an assumption. For all anyone knows the friend might be perfectly happy to book an Air B&B or find a room for herself and was only asking the OP if she could stay on the off chance the OP didn’t mind. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Beautiful3 · 23/08/2019 14:28

You need to put your husband first in this situation and work through your issues. Tell your friend the truth, that she cannot stay as you and your husband are working through some problems.

WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 23/08/2019 14:31

@Destinesia The text isn't clear but I'm assuming she'd be staying weekends as well. She doesn't like the town she moved to and hasn't had the opportunity to make a lot of friends there due to the nature of her work. I'd be surprised if she went to the trouble of driving three hours back there for the weekend when she'd always rather be here.

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Greyponcho · 23/08/2019 14:34

I don’t know what on earth would possess someone to give such little notice to stay for so long at the house of someone who is so heavily pregnant! And at the very least to not pull her weight when she does stay, never mind offering to sit DC while you and DP go out for the evening.
YANBU to be miffed but if it’s a training course through her work then they should be paying for her accommodations too.

Cassilis · 23/08/2019 14:34

But what are you going to do OP?

katewhinesalot · 23/08/2019 14:38

i think you need to explain the reasons you've given and ask her if there is any way she can stay elsewhere. If she can't then suggest she goes home on the Friday after the course and goes straight there on the Monday. Then give her notice that things will need to change in future.

TeaForTara · 23/08/2019 14:38

If you're close enough to tell her about the marriage counselling then I would do. Say that ordinarily you would love her to stay but currently you are going through a tricky patch, and need time to yourselves.

If you'd rather not mention that then the pregnancy is enough by itself. Tell her that you are exhausted due to the pregnancy, you are trying to get things ready for the new baby, including the spare room, and there's a possibility of going into labour while she would be there, which wouldn't work at all (maybe a grandparent has to come to stay to look after existing DC?)

Basically, YANBU to say no, for all of the reasons you've mentioned, but I'd emphasise the pregnancy / birth as the main reason and not say anything about her anxiety etc.

babba2014 · 23/08/2019 14:39

Find a way to get your keys back.
Say: I'm really struggling in this pregnancy and sleep. DH and I take turns to sleep in the spare room as toddler keeps waking up.
Also my mum (or name someone else) us coking to stay to help me in the last trimester.
I'm so sorry I could not extend the invitation this time but as it's over two weeks it just clashes with the end of pregnancy. Hopefully once the baby is here we can go back to our arrangement (but don't. Use the excuse of you and DH sleeping in spare room). Please could I have the key for my mum?

SalemShadow · 23/08/2019 14:47

Why can't she pay for a B&B seriously? That's really taking advantage. I had my friend stop with me for a week recently and that was more than enough and I was ready for her to go home and I am not pregnant. Its extra work hosting. You can walk round braless or slob round when hosting, extra cleaning and cooking. Just tell her there isnt the room now. TBH I'm thinking she is a CF. You need to put your marriage before your friend. You need your privacy like you say.

summersherewishiwasnt · 23/08/2019 14:48

Tell her the reasons you have here, your newborn will need a bed room. End this exceptionally generous offer before it ruins your friendship.

makingmammaries · 23/08/2019 14:49

16-20 days is absurd. She could get an Airbnb.

Make a polite excuse on this occasion and also say that your toddler is going to be using that bedroom from now on in view of the baby's impending arrival.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 23/08/2019 14:52

I feel bad because it sounds like she's already enrolled in the course

That suggests that her asking "is it ok?" is just going through the motions, not a genuine query.

If I had offered an open invitation like this (I wouldn't, because I'm not as nice as you) I would have done so because I was expecting my friend to be dropping in once or twice a year for a couple of nights at most - not because I envisaged becoming a second home for someone.

Tell her that you need the room for your toddler and were just about to e-mail/ text/ ring her to let her know that you would need to ask for your key back because you would no longer have the room available (this is true, after all).

Her visiting you so frequently is bordering on cheeky-fuckery.

dustarr73 · 23/08/2019 14:52

@ReTooth not really,she told op after she booked her course.She didnt ask beforehand.Cause she kew the op wouldnt mind.Which of course she does.

Drum2018 · 23/08/2019 14:52

Hopefully once the baby is here we can go back to our arrangement

Best not to add this to any text. Don't even hint that she can continue to stay again after the baby is born. If she doesn't have the wit to realise that asking to stay so late in your pregnancy is inappropriate, then she won't have the wit to stay away after the birth. You just need to tell her straight that the arrangement cannot continue anymore. Pack whatever bits she has in your house and tell her she can collect them next time she's in town.

WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 23/08/2019 14:54

@Cassilis I'm realising I can't take on the three weeks. I'm just not up to it.

I'm thinking about offering for her to stay for the first 5 days given she's in a pinch of my making, but will talk to DH. I'm not sure what her plan B would be for accommodation. I doubt her work would pay for it, in the past she's asked to do training or work remotely from our hometown and they've only approved it on the basis that she sorts her own accommodation. They'd rather her be in the office, it's her who is looking for reasons to come home.

Life was different two years ago when I made the offer. I meant it at the time and for sometime after. It's just too much now.

OP posts:
greenwaterbottle · 23/08/2019 14:55

I think it's easier to say no rather than letting her come with puppy dog sad eyes and a sob story

Perch · 23/08/2019 14:55

YANBU! We had friend stay when she was in our area for work, just a night at a time. After the third visit I found out she had a nightly allowance from her company for sleeping out, and the nights she stayed with us she just pocketed it, about £150. That was the last visit.

Disfordarkchocolate · 23/08/2019 14:57

She sounds like a good friend but I agree this is the time to change this arrangement. She is also asking to stay for too long.

Now you have another baby it's time to take back that spare room, you've been more than a good friend but she must have known this arrangement would have to stop as your family expanded.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 23/08/2019 14:58

Plus - what if your baby arrives early?

How do you think you could cope then?

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