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For revoking an open invitation to stay?

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WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 23/08/2019 12:47

I write half hoping to cop a bashing so I am more motivated to do the right thing.

A dear and wonderful friend moved to another town for a work opportunity about 2 years ago. When she moved I gave her a key and told her she was welcome to use our spare bedroom whenever she wanted to come back.

Since then she’s been staying for 1-3 nights at a time about once a month. She’ll usually be back for one specific thing like a medical appointment or an engagement party but have no other plans. She keeps personal belongings in the spare room and stores larger items in our shed so our place serves as her hometown base.

She’s not loud or messy or ungrateful. But- she is underfoot. She is a homebody and mostly stays in, pottering about our living room/kitchen with cups of tea. She tends to come along if we go for brunch, to the park, walking with the children etc. Which is lovely but it eats into family time.

There is all the usual houseguest stuff- more laundry, more pressure to tidy up, an extra clean of the bathroom, the need to make polite chit chat first thing in the morning when I just want to stagger wordlessly towards the kettle. But for a few nights it’s no big problem.

She’s just texted to check that she can stay for 16-20 days straight while she does a professional course next week.

And I reeeeally don’t want to host her for that long.

My reasons (mostly selfish):

  • she’s recently stopped taking anxiety medication and the last time she stayed she spent each evening talking repetitively at length about very small problems that were obviously swirling around in her head. I spent a lot of time listening and being reassuring and supportive. But it was draining. It also took a lot of time away from the other things I normally get done in the evenings (life admin, laundry, catching up on work emails etc). I also find that stress in other people rubs off on me and I felt stressed for days after she left.
  • I’m 8 months pregnant and I. Am. Tired. I am sore. I don’t want more housework, more emotional labour, one more person to think about. When the children are asleep I want to plough through my To-Do list if I have any energy or switch off completely if I don’t.
  • We have easily excited toddlers and having an extra person in the house makes it that much harder to get them to focus and eat dinner, go to bed, stay in bed, all the usual toddler wrangling challenges.
  • DH and I are currently in marriage counselling and so valuing our privacy more than usual. Being alone once the children go to sleep gives us space to talk things through if we need to, but otherwise enjoy some downtime together. The next few weeks feel really important for this given we’re about to be back on the newborn/sleep deprivation train soon.
  • Our house has just the one living space which is open plan with the kitchen. A toddler sleeps in our bedroom. There’s nowhere to escape to.

My friend is a lovely kind person who would be there for me if I ever needed her. She hasn’t done anything wrong. When she moved I told her she would be welcome so suddenly saying no feels unfair. She knows we have the empty bedroom, so there’s no reason not to have her apart from simply not wanting to.

But I am running on empty and it feels (irrationally) like this one quiet houseguest will break me.

AIBU to say no this time? If not, how can I do it in a way that doesn’t hurt her feelings?

If I am BU, then please give me tips on managing houseguests with minimal effort. Sad

OP posts:
WhatchaMaCalllit · 30/08/2019 15:07

@Bookworm4 - Maybe she is the Mexican House Thief! Grin Grin Grin

EdtheBear · 30/08/2019 15:07

Wishing I'm really sorry that your kindness has been completely and utterly abused.
At one point I felt sorry for LF but now I see her as a completely selfish user. She put herself above you, above your DH, above your children.

You've been incredibly strong during this and being able to chat this morning has been good.

I imagine she will be dropped by the group completely. Good luck with the rest of your pregnancy and relax without her leeching your energy.

Cary2012 · 30/08/2019 15:11

Hope you are ok, and not too upset about this @Wishing. What galls me is that LF didn't tell you about the offer. I find this so rude and selfish. That, coupled with her then bleating on about feeling unwelcome at yours, shows how spoilt and childish she is. If the root of this is MH issues then of course she must get help, but I can't help thinking she's highly manipulative, has played you all like a fiddle and taken advantage of your kind and generous nature. Please learn from this OP, and start to put up boundaries. She KNEW you didn't want her there, it just suited HER to ignore that. Remember this when she starts kicking off. Take care, good luck with the baby.

Sorrysorrysosorry · 30/08/2019 15:13

she needed to stay in ‘her’ room to feel comfortable

Her room Shock

MinisterforCheekyFuckery · 30/08/2019 15:14

we must surely be one of the rare few countries in the world where you have an entire extra floor in your house and you can't temporarily house a friend you describe as "would always be there for me".

Oh come on Hmm Have you RTFT?
OP has been housing this friend on a very frequent basis for years! Not to mention cooking for her, listening to her troubles, including her in family events and outings, storing her belongings.
The dig about OP having "an entire extra floor" is nasty and unecessary. Again, if you've read the thread you'll know it's not just "an extra floor" that would otherwise be unused- the room this CF has been occupying will be used as the toddlers bedroom once the baby comes (anytime now!) but that's beside the point. OP shouldn't have to feel guilty for having space, presumably she and her DH have worked hard for it. Anyone who has had houseguests who tend to overstay their welcome knows it's not just about having the physical space to accommodate them, it's about the lack of privacy, the impact on quality time with your partner, and having the time and energy to host them which OP doesn't currently due to small children, marital difficulties and pregnancy. Making out that OP is being uncharitable, rattling around in her huge mansion not wanting to share her good fortune with her poor unfortunate friend is unfair, particularly given this friends complete lack of consideration for others and the lengths OP has gone to in order to avoid hurting her feelings.

northernlites · 30/08/2019 15:18

@WishingILivedOnAnIsland you have been nothing but kind and tolerant
That must have been a difficult conversation but it was the right conversation. LF has clearly crossed boundaries when she sees your spare room as 'her' room to the point of being entitled and selfish. It is just unbelievable how she has treated you and your generosity and despite your current circumstances is so self absorbed that she can't see your needs
You are right to take a break and asking her to leave, hopefully it will be the encouragement she needs to sort herself out but she needs to realise and accept her behaviour is is wrong first probably
I really hope she left the key and took her stuff otherwise this will imply she thought your conversation want real or serious enough

DieBabySharkDie · 30/08/2019 15:22

Wow. Just wow. And please keep us updated - I don’t see this drama being over yet, so a new thread will be needed quick!!!!

Frownette · 30/08/2019 15:23

@Sorrysorrysosorry I know! I'd be spitting feathers

Just hoping for an update from OP now that LF is gone and she can breathe again

I'm a bit confused as to how far away LF moved and whether it would have been possible to commute for the course. MF3 is probably quite hurt that LF wouldn't help her out with the dog when she's worked off her feet AND get accommodation

Puzzledandpissedoff · 30/08/2019 15:26

I told her to pack her car before leaving for her course today and leave her key on the table when she goes

Errr … and? Has she actually gone? Considering you posted this at 12.48, by which time she must surely have needed to leave for her course, I'm surprised you didn't mention the outcome

Hmmmm ...

Cherrysoup · 30/08/2019 15:29

Is she actually going to go, tho?! OP, please start a new thread because this one is filling up fast.

MinisterforCheekyFuckery · 30/08/2019 15:30

MF3 is probably quite hurt that LF wouldn't help her out with the dog when she's worked off her feet AND get accommodation

Not to mention telling other MF's that she's stressed because her accomodation is "up in the air" when she knew full well she had somewhere to go, they were probably all wondering why MF3 hadn't offered.

OrchidInTheSun · 30/08/2019 15:31

Just as I thought. She sees you as surrogate parents and that you have some kind of responsibility to her.

I'm sorry you had to find out such a hard way that your friends don't really deserve that role in your life.

Good luck with the rest of your pregnancy. Put your feet up and spread out Smile

CoffeeCoffeeTea · 30/08/2019 15:38

Hi OP, Your friend is a cuckoo in the nest and it's great that you are getting her to leave as otherwise she would be dictating where your DCs sleep.
I hope you have a lovely peaceful weekend with your DH and DCs.

HeffaLump1 · 30/08/2019 15:40

So sad for those with real MH problems that people like her use it to get their own way in things. Then when confronted simperingly hide behind "it all being too much" and still expecting others to fall into place for them.
Outrageous behaviour. A sly and sneaky woman who wouldnt appear to know loyalty and honesty if they slapped her in the face Angry

lmusic87 · 30/08/2019 15:53

Well done OP!

Benjispruce · 30/08/2019 15:53

Well done OP , you tea don’t need her stress any longer. Please take care of yourself now she’s gone ( I hope) and go for a gentle walk, have a soak with some lavender oil and get your DH to give you a foot rub... or whatever you do to relax. I would block her number for a while on any social media groups. Focus on your family. Good luck.

Benjispruce · 30/08/2019 15:54

scary I love the fortune/ lottery ticket analogy.

MzHz · 30/08/2019 16:25

And so... has she gone?

Please say she has!!

BumbleBeee69 · 30/08/2019 16:28

Jesus what a selfish inconsiderate wicked Friend you have OP... Hmm

WELL DONE for kicking ass and finally standing up for your living space Flowers

itswinetime · 30/08/2019 16:36

She will be back tonight....if she ever left!

You were right to tell her the truth you are in the right wanting some space don't let everyone guilt you you have done a nice thing for a long time but it's no longer practical!

MzHz · 30/08/2019 16:38

I would double lock door, or get lock changed anyway, if she comes back she won’t be able to get in and the door won’t be opened for her

She’s even more awful than we imagined

So sorry op, you must be devastated

Frownette · 30/08/2019 16:50

I should imagine OP would just feel severe irritation at her presence right now. Hope she doesn't cause any more problems/go a bit psycho.

Course must have finished for the day now (I bet she turned on the waterworks to coursemates and fabricated something about how she'd been mistreated), if she's been for drinks with then and comes back she might get emotional.

Fingers crossed for positive outcome.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 30/08/2019 16:57

Wow.

Well done.

She's either unwell, or a total dick. Or both.

Mia184 · 30/08/2019 16:58

Well done Flowers and I hope she will indeed leave. Which friend will she actually be going to now?

MinisterforCheekyFuckery · 30/08/2019 17:13

Mia I think she's burned her bridges (for now anyway) with this group of friends but since it's the weekend what she should probably do is go home to her own place and that gives her time to look at B&B's/book a Travelodge or something for when the course recommences on Monday.
Although if she's made any friends on this course I wouldn't be at all surprised if she's been crying to them today, spinning it to make out she's the innocent victim and one of them offers her a bed/sofa. She's obviously someone who's very good at eliciting sympathy and favours from others.

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