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For revoking an open invitation to stay?

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WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 23/08/2019 12:47

I write half hoping to cop a bashing so I am more motivated to do the right thing.

A dear and wonderful friend moved to another town for a work opportunity about 2 years ago. When she moved I gave her a key and told her she was welcome to use our spare bedroom whenever she wanted to come back.

Since then she’s been staying for 1-3 nights at a time about once a month. She’ll usually be back for one specific thing like a medical appointment or an engagement party but have no other plans. She keeps personal belongings in the spare room and stores larger items in our shed so our place serves as her hometown base.

She’s not loud or messy or ungrateful. But- she is underfoot. She is a homebody and mostly stays in, pottering about our living room/kitchen with cups of tea. She tends to come along if we go for brunch, to the park, walking with the children etc. Which is lovely but it eats into family time.

There is all the usual houseguest stuff- more laundry, more pressure to tidy up, an extra clean of the bathroom, the need to make polite chit chat first thing in the morning when I just want to stagger wordlessly towards the kettle. But for a few nights it’s no big problem.

She’s just texted to check that she can stay for 16-20 days straight while she does a professional course next week.

And I reeeeally don’t want to host her for that long.

My reasons (mostly selfish):

  • she’s recently stopped taking anxiety medication and the last time she stayed she spent each evening talking repetitively at length about very small problems that were obviously swirling around in her head. I spent a lot of time listening and being reassuring and supportive. But it was draining. It also took a lot of time away from the other things I normally get done in the evenings (life admin, laundry, catching up on work emails etc). I also find that stress in other people rubs off on me and I felt stressed for days after she left.
  • I’m 8 months pregnant and I. Am. Tired. I am sore. I don’t want more housework, more emotional labour, one more person to think about. When the children are asleep I want to plough through my To-Do list if I have any energy or switch off completely if I don’t.
  • We have easily excited toddlers and having an extra person in the house makes it that much harder to get them to focus and eat dinner, go to bed, stay in bed, all the usual toddler wrangling challenges.
  • DH and I are currently in marriage counselling and so valuing our privacy more than usual. Being alone once the children go to sleep gives us space to talk things through if we need to, but otherwise enjoy some downtime together. The next few weeks feel really important for this given we’re about to be back on the newborn/sleep deprivation train soon.
  • Our house has just the one living space which is open plan with the kitchen. A toddler sleeps in our bedroom. There’s nowhere to escape to.

My friend is a lovely kind person who would be there for me if I ever needed her. She hasn’t done anything wrong. When she moved I told her she would be welcome so suddenly saying no feels unfair. She knows we have the empty bedroom, so there’s no reason not to have her apart from simply not wanting to.

But I am running on empty and it feels (irrationally) like this one quiet houseguest will break me.

AIBU to say no this time? If not, how can I do it in a way that doesn’t hurt her feelings?

If I am BU, then please give me tips on managing houseguests with minimal effort. Sad

OP posts:
ISayWhatNow · 30/08/2019 12:54

Stability and 'her' room?!? Wtaf? She's behaving like a child! Well done on the conversation.

Leeds2 · 30/08/2019 12:55

Well Done, OP.

Has she gone yet? If she doesn't leave her key, I would seriously consider changing the locks. Even if she has now burnt her bridges with MF3.

Bookworm4 · 30/08/2019 12:56

Oh my, the sheer audacity of this woman!!
Driving in her car to her course is ‘unsafe’??
Does she have a book of pathetic excuses?
Well done @Wishing here’s hoping she goes!!

Proseccoinamug · 30/08/2019 12:58

Oh well done OP. That can’t feel nice but it was necessary.

It sounds like your friend’s mental health is deteriorating and that it’s made her blind to others’ needs. But it’s not something you can take responsibility for and allowing this to go on would just be enabling her. And it would have such a negative impact on you. She needs to sort it out.

Josephinebettany · 30/08/2019 12:58

Is she gone?

Flower777 · 30/08/2019 12:58

Funnily enough I’m feeling sorry for LF at this point.

It sounds such a weird dynamic in this friendship group. You have all pussy footed around her for so long. No one has just been straight with her. Now you are all angry with her.

Cary2012 · 30/08/2019 12:58

Well done OP, well done! Hope she packed the car and left the key. Of course she cried and made it all about her. Wait now for her to now escalate the little girl act...

Cassandrainthenight · 30/08/2019 12:59

But will she actually pack her car and leave the key? I now wouldn't trust her to not have made a copy to use 'for emergencies'(or if you all have left and left the house empty). Or she will "forget" a lot of her stuff and will need to come back to get it etc. Her shed possessions need to be sent away with her too...

Changing one lock isn't difficult if you buy an identical one...

whitebowls · 30/08/2019 13:01

I'm outraged on your behalf, OP.

FurnitureAndBackgammon · 30/08/2019 13:01

she needs stability, she needed to stay in ‘her’ room to feel comfortable

My God, I'm reading this with my mouth open. Cheeky bloody bitch.
Her 'mental health issues' all seem a bit too convenient for my liking.

WhatchaMaCalllit · 30/08/2019 13:02

WOW! Just WOW!!! How f*cking entitled does she really think she is????That is gobsmackingly rude of her.
I would tell her that she must return on X date (one that suits you) to collected her belongings that she may end up leaving behind (including the ones in your shed) or else they are going out in a skip.

She is so far past the line of being reasonable and decent, she can't see it anymore.

Well done @WishingILivedOnAnIsland - you found your inner lioness and let roar at her! Keep going now!!!

Cary2012 · 30/08/2019 13:03

If she hasn't left the key, don't change the locks. It would make you look powerless because your request is enough! If she took the key and let herself in, just look baffled, ask her what she's playing at and shove her out the door. She has no say in staying with you again. It really is that simple.

prettybird · 30/08/2019 13:03

This us the last thing you need at this stage in your pregnancy Sad. Your ex friend is really self-centred and self-absorbed not to see it Angry Quite apart from the rather obvious clue of your large bump Wink

Hopefully it is indeed the last thing you have to deal with about her (your dh can liaise with her to get her stuff out the shed) and now you can sit and put your feet up and relax a bit (as much as you can with toddlers Wink) Flowers

LazyDaisey · 30/08/2019 13:03

“No one has just been straight with her. Now you are all angry with her.”

No, they’ve all be extremely tolerant and didn’t question her motives because no one thought this person was taking advantage of all the kindness she was being offered. Now as a group, they’ve realised she’s been using them.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 30/08/2019 13:05

Fucking hell, she has the skin of a rhino! And clearly doesn’t give a single fuck about how you and your family and your MFs are feeling at all-it’s just about what she wants. She wants to stay at yours because she lives like lady of the manor there-and doesn’t have to lift a finger. At MF3’s house she would have to look after the dog and HERSELF!!!

Well done you for getting shot-and on a permanent basis as well.Flowers

FurnitureAndBackgammon · 30/08/2019 13:05

I told her to pack her car before leaving for her course today and leave her key on the table when she goes.

Sorry, so has she done this, OP?

FetchezLaVache · 30/08/2019 13:06

Well done, OP - although, as a PP said, it can't have felt nice.

I think this will be rather a steep learning curve for CF, especially if MF3 now withdraws her generous invitation...

FurnitureAndBackgammon · 30/08/2019 13:08

And how bloody dare she talk about stress when you have 2 toddlers, a baby on the way and all this to deal with. Selfish bloody cow 😡

Apparentlychilled · 30/08/2019 13:09

OP, I'm so sorry it has come to this with your CF friend but glad you set her straight. I hope you get your house back to yourselves tonight and that you manage to rest as much as possible for the balance of your pregnancy.

Cassandrainthenight · 30/08/2019 13:09

Flower777

No one has been straight with her

Eh?

She was told straight by MF3 she was welcome to stay there.

She was told straight by heavily pregnant OP who is looking after 2 toddlers that she couldn't cope with guests, maximum for the weekend, she's there 5 days later.

Cary2012 · 30/08/2019 13:11

Bet she quits the course now, as all the "stress" of this will make her unable to carry on... get your flak jacket on OP, she'll try and make this your fault. Ignore it all. Well done again l

mummabubs · 30/08/2019 13:11

Been lurking on here but like others was so shocked by your update. Well done for telling her that she's no longer able to stay with you and ensuring she doesn't continue to (I'm guessing she did leave the key as requested?)

Good luck for your upcoming birth and hope your house starts to feel more like your home and less like a guesthouse :)

dollydaydream114 · 30/08/2019 13:13

She said she never saw staying with MF3 as a real option because she needs stability, she needed to stay in ‘her’ room to feel comfortable, the commute between course and MF3s house felt unsafe and was too much for her to cope with

What. The. Actual. Fuck.

Full disclosure: I’ve had my fair share of mental health problems in my time but never, NEVER would I ever allow my issues to inconvenience my friends, particularly a friend who is eight months pregnant. Her anxiety is absolutely no excuse for her behaviour. She’s a selfish bloody cow and a giant child who needs to stop making her issues into your problem.

1Wildheartsease · 30/08/2019 13:16

Well done OP.

Don't allow yourself to be made to feel guilty by her. You have a soft heart and much kindness but keep in mind that by being strong and straight with her you have done her a great favour.

She is a grown up and not one of your children. She really does need to see her own GP and to deal with her health. The way she is manipulating others (with lies/omissions and then with tears) suggests that she has survival skills.

dollydaydream114 · 30/08/2019 13:20

No one has just been straight with her. Now you are all angry with her.

The only person who hasn’t been straight here is her, when she deliberately didn’t tell anyone else that she already had a genuine offer of accommodation that she failed to accept on the grounds that she wanted to stay in her ‘own room’ (which isn’t her own room anyway). She also said she would only stay with the OP for the weekend and then stayed for the entire week.

MF3 was straight with her when she told her she’d love to have her come and stay. The OP was straight with her when she told her she couldn’t stay for nearly three weeks and needed to be gone by Monday (now five days ago). The ‘L’F responded by declining to help out MF3 in staying at her house, and then lying to OP, MF1 and MF2 that she didn’t have anywhere else to go.

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