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For revoking an open invitation to stay?

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WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 23/08/2019 12:47

I write half hoping to cop a bashing so I am more motivated to do the right thing.

A dear and wonderful friend moved to another town for a work opportunity about 2 years ago. When she moved I gave her a key and told her she was welcome to use our spare bedroom whenever she wanted to come back.

Since then she’s been staying for 1-3 nights at a time about once a month. She’ll usually be back for one specific thing like a medical appointment or an engagement party but have no other plans. She keeps personal belongings in the spare room and stores larger items in our shed so our place serves as her hometown base.

She’s not loud or messy or ungrateful. But- she is underfoot. She is a homebody and mostly stays in, pottering about our living room/kitchen with cups of tea. She tends to come along if we go for brunch, to the park, walking with the children etc. Which is lovely but it eats into family time.

There is all the usual houseguest stuff- more laundry, more pressure to tidy up, an extra clean of the bathroom, the need to make polite chit chat first thing in the morning when I just want to stagger wordlessly towards the kettle. But for a few nights it’s no big problem.

She’s just texted to check that she can stay for 16-20 days straight while she does a professional course next week.

And I reeeeally don’t want to host her for that long.

My reasons (mostly selfish):

  • she’s recently stopped taking anxiety medication and the last time she stayed she spent each evening talking repetitively at length about very small problems that were obviously swirling around in her head. I spent a lot of time listening and being reassuring and supportive. But it was draining. It also took a lot of time away from the other things I normally get done in the evenings (life admin, laundry, catching up on work emails etc). I also find that stress in other people rubs off on me and I felt stressed for days after she left.
  • I’m 8 months pregnant and I. Am. Tired. I am sore. I don’t want more housework, more emotional labour, one more person to think about. When the children are asleep I want to plough through my To-Do list if I have any energy or switch off completely if I don’t.
  • We have easily excited toddlers and having an extra person in the house makes it that much harder to get them to focus and eat dinner, go to bed, stay in bed, all the usual toddler wrangling challenges.
  • DH and I are currently in marriage counselling and so valuing our privacy more than usual. Being alone once the children go to sleep gives us space to talk things through if we need to, but otherwise enjoy some downtime together. The next few weeks feel really important for this given we’re about to be back on the newborn/sleep deprivation train soon.
  • Our house has just the one living space which is open plan with the kitchen. A toddler sleeps in our bedroom. There’s nowhere to escape to.

My friend is a lovely kind person who would be there for me if I ever needed her. She hasn’t done anything wrong. When she moved I told her she would be welcome so suddenly saying no feels unfair. She knows we have the empty bedroom, so there’s no reason not to have her apart from simply not wanting to.

But I am running on empty and it feels (irrationally) like this one quiet houseguest will break me.

AIBU to say no this time? If not, how can I do it in a way that doesn’t hurt her feelings?

If I am BU, then please give me tips on managing houseguests with minimal effort. Sad

OP posts:
SummerWhisper · 30/08/2019 09:56

I wouldn't bother going to the meal. Just tell her (not in advance - make sure she is already there) that you need to stay in and rest. She should have arranged a thank you meal for you and your husband and paid for it. I presume that you would have paid for her meal tonight. I get the impression that she has very little regard for you and your family and it makes me shudder.

Scruffalicious · 30/08/2019 09:59

I'm sorry, but this is the point where I'd hand over a bag of her stuff and say "you need to leave."

And I avoid conflict on a pathological level.

northernlites · 30/08/2019 10:04

Maybe this is why MF1 and MF2 were being so weird about accommodating CFF? Perhaps they knew she had had an offer from MF3 for the duration of course hence their reluctance

EdtheBear · 30/08/2019 10:08

You'd think if they knew they'd have told Wishing instead of wriggling like mad to avoid offering their own places.

Bookworm4 · 30/08/2019 10:12

Can not believe the update!!!
She is a vile selfish user, vulnerable my arse, get her to fuck.

Ohmygoodnessreally · 30/08/2019 10:35

and on top of all this she pouted to mf about not feeling welcome?! So not only did she insist on your having her, but that you be visibly THRILLED with her presence???!!

TimeIhadaNameChange · 30/08/2019 10:42

You have to confront her and ask her why exactly she turned down MF3's offer when she knew how tough you were finding life in general, what with two toddlers and being heavily pregnant, that the friend had offered quite possibly BEFORE the CF asked you if she could stay, and that you'd said, having been given 2 day's notice, that she could only stay a couple of nights yet she seems to have chosen to ignore that. Quite frankly I'd cut contact with CF, and MF1 and MF2. MF3 sounds lovely and a good friend, to both of you.

Tonnerre · 30/08/2019 10:43

I doubt MF1 and 2 knew about the offer from MF3, otherwise they wouldn't have wasted so much time trying to guilt-trip OP, or even listening to her whinging about feeling unwanted.

Cloudyapples · 30/08/2019 10:50

I hope youve shown her the door now op

theoriginalmadambee · 30/08/2019 10:55

@WishingILivedOnAnIsland you sound a more than great friend. Perhaps you should evaluate your friendship dynamics, they all seem to take advantage of you, bar mf3.

I would love that level of hospitality, but I would reciprocate... A lot.

Mxyzptlk · 30/08/2019 10:56

DH may have been less annoyed than you were, OP, but surely he's annoyed on your behalf by this latest news.

Surely DH is looking at it from your point of view, as we are, and has now made sure that CF is definitely out of her comfy billet today.

I hope DH has your back here.

Weezol · 30/08/2019 10:56

Blinking Flip!

I know this may be impossible, but please try and get some rest today by any means necessary - toddlers in front of the telly, could DH get out of work early to give you a break?

Dutch1e · 30/08/2019 11:06

I can't believe she turned down a generous offer from another friend knowing that you wanted and needed your home back.

I have a fiver that says she couldn't be arsed taking care of the dog. Nasty, selfish, lying person.

CallmeAngelina · 30/08/2019 11:16

I'm curious as to how it's been working this week. She knows she's not welcome, so what happens when she returns each evening? Cheery "hello honey, I'm home!" when she comes through the door? "What's for dinner?"
How chatty and responsive are you? Are you asking her what she fancies to eat? If she'd like a drink?
I would find it hard to even be in the same room as her.

cstaff · 30/08/2019 11:28

@CallmeAngelina
I was thinking the same thing. This has to have created an uncomfortable atmosphere in the house this week. It certainly can't have been as it was before. At this stage surely it is in the CFs interest to get the fuck out knowing that she has caused this issue.

The fact that she had an offer from another friend just proves how fucking cheeky she is and how little she gives a fuck about you and your new arrival.

Hopefully all gets sorted today and you get your house back.

Cassandrainthenight · 30/08/2019 11:55

OP, did you actually have dinner ready for her every night? 😮
I took your earlier mention of being tired and going to bed early and not seeing her much at least as a sign that you were not sorting out her food arrangements among other things.
What if you were too tired to cook apart from for the toddlers? Surely DH then would pick at something or cook for himself,was CFF's dinner another consideration every night? That after she was told she wasn't actually welcome to stay on? 😑 Or is she that comfortable in your house that she goes through the fridge and cupboards if there's no cooked dinner and helps herself?

SurfingGiantess · 30/08/2019 12:08
Shock
FurnitureAndBackgammon · 30/08/2019 12:23

I have a fiver that says she couldn't be arsed taking care of the dog.

Oh yes 100%. Too much like hard work when she can get waited on hand and foot at OP's house 😡

CoraPirbright · 30/08/2019 12:25

Really shocked by your update. She is incredibly selfish, choosing to put her needs ahead of yours, your baby’s and your husbands. She had a perfectly good offer of accommodation where it would actually have been a help to have her there but chose to impose herself on you as its a nicer area and more congenial living. Angry

Proseccoinamug · 30/08/2019 12:31

I’m shocked by how far off the mark my own judgement was on this one. I really thought she was lovely and felt sorry for her.
But she’s the cheekiest fucker of all cheeky fuckers, she is the president of the pisstaking society of selfish arseholes.

OP, I think the friendship is over. You’re going to have to tell her to fuck off to the far side of fuck.

Frownette · 30/08/2019 12:31

It's also the shit stirring, disrespecting OPs request etc.

Is she this 'little girl lost' IRL? Please don't say she puts on a baby voice...?

WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 30/08/2019 12:48

Well, dinner is off.

Everyone is angry with LF, including MF3 who is offended that LF went to such lengths to avoid staying with her.

LF and I had an intense and unpleasant conversation this morning. I asked her about MF3’s offer and she started crying. She said she never saw staying with MF3 as a real option because she needs stability, she needed to stay in ‘her’ room to feel comfortable, the commute between course and MF3s house felt unsafe and was too much for her to cope with ‘on top of all the other stress’ she is going through and a bunch of other stuff I can’t remember because I was just bloody speechless that she was seriously telling me about the need to have ones own space during a time of stress and change.

Eventually I cut her off. I told her if she can’t cope with basic everyday things like completing an optional training course or staying in a house she isn’t used to, then she needs to see her doctor because that’s not normal.

I said she and I need to have a break from each other. I told her to pack her car before leaving for her course today and leave her key on the table when she goes.

OP posts:
sonjadog · 30/08/2019 12:50

Good for you, OP. And good riddance to her.

Cassandrainthenight · 30/08/2019 12:53

IN HER ROOM??

Gaaaaahhhh

Scarydinosaurs · 30/08/2019 12:53

Good for you. She has behaved so badly.

What a lucky person to have such great friends. She can’t see the fortune in her own purse because she’s too busy hunting for a lottery ticket in someone else’s bag.

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