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For revoking an open invitation to stay?

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WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 23/08/2019 12:47

I write half hoping to cop a bashing so I am more motivated to do the right thing.

A dear and wonderful friend moved to another town for a work opportunity about 2 years ago. When she moved I gave her a key and told her she was welcome to use our spare bedroom whenever she wanted to come back.

Since then she’s been staying for 1-3 nights at a time about once a month. She’ll usually be back for one specific thing like a medical appointment or an engagement party but have no other plans. She keeps personal belongings in the spare room and stores larger items in our shed so our place serves as her hometown base.

She’s not loud or messy or ungrateful. But- she is underfoot. She is a homebody and mostly stays in, pottering about our living room/kitchen with cups of tea. She tends to come along if we go for brunch, to the park, walking with the children etc. Which is lovely but it eats into family time.

There is all the usual houseguest stuff- more laundry, more pressure to tidy up, an extra clean of the bathroom, the need to make polite chit chat first thing in the morning when I just want to stagger wordlessly towards the kettle. But for a few nights it’s no big problem.

She’s just texted to check that she can stay for 16-20 days straight while she does a professional course next week.

And I reeeeally don’t want to host her for that long.

My reasons (mostly selfish):

  • she’s recently stopped taking anxiety medication and the last time she stayed she spent each evening talking repetitively at length about very small problems that were obviously swirling around in her head. I spent a lot of time listening and being reassuring and supportive. But it was draining. It also took a lot of time away from the other things I normally get done in the evenings (life admin, laundry, catching up on work emails etc). I also find that stress in other people rubs off on me and I felt stressed for days after she left.
  • I’m 8 months pregnant and I. Am. Tired. I am sore. I don’t want more housework, more emotional labour, one more person to think about. When the children are asleep I want to plough through my To-Do list if I have any energy or switch off completely if I don’t.
  • We have easily excited toddlers and having an extra person in the house makes it that much harder to get them to focus and eat dinner, go to bed, stay in bed, all the usual toddler wrangling challenges.
  • DH and I are currently in marriage counselling and so valuing our privacy more than usual. Being alone once the children go to sleep gives us space to talk things through if we need to, but otherwise enjoy some downtime together. The next few weeks feel really important for this given we’re about to be back on the newborn/sleep deprivation train soon.
  • Our house has just the one living space which is open plan with the kitchen. A toddler sleeps in our bedroom. There’s nowhere to escape to.

My friend is a lovely kind person who would be there for me if I ever needed her. She hasn’t done anything wrong. When she moved I told her she would be welcome so suddenly saying no feels unfair. She knows we have the empty bedroom, so there’s no reason not to have her apart from simply not wanting to.

But I am running on empty and it feels (irrationally) like this one quiet houseguest will break me.

AIBU to say no this time? If not, how can I do it in a way that doesn’t hurt her feelings?

If I am BU, then please give me tips on managing houseguests with minimal effort. Sad

OP posts:
Mummyoflittledragon · 30/08/2019 13:31

Wow! I’m appalled at your update. I’m not surprised you couldn’t hear past the need to have her own space at a time of stress in her life. She really cannot hear herself or put herself in your shoes.

NoddyAndBessie · 30/08/2019 13:36

I missed what L in LF stands for? It's not "lying", is it? cos I know what the F is for!

Frownette · 30/08/2019 13:38

Lovely, ironically

IchiNiSan · 30/08/2019 13:41

Her admission that staying with your mutual friend wasn't an option shows that she intended to stay with you for the full three weeks of the course. She is clearly quite selfish and unwilling to consider anyone else. If you hadn't challenged her about MF3's invitation, she'd have returned tonight. It is her room after all!

Eeyoreshouse · 30/08/2019 13:49

I know someone like this. I think lf obviously has some quite serious mh health issues and she probably can't quite see or accept herself how profound they are, so she rationalises her own behaviour in her head.

Poor woman. You tried to help her op and you didn't deserve this outcome.

Beautiful3 · 30/08/2019 13:53

Wow. Never have I been so over invested in a thread before! I'm genuinely annoyed for you. Your friend needed her room and space. The exact same things you told her you needed?! I'm speechless. A break sounds like a great idea. Well done. You dealt with it all wonderfully. You're far more patient than I am, that's for sure. Im glad you asked for the key back. She obviously feels attached to your spare room and entitled to it. I would never allow her to stay again. Next step is to clear away her storage, before she feels entitled to that too!

TowelNumber42 · 30/08/2019 14:01

Be ready for the ramping up of the emotional manipulation.

She is clearly a very deeply selfish person. She won't want to give up "her room". She will be angry at you for taking it from her, in her warped perception. Be ready with a backbone of steel and your coldest closing down of the selfish whines.

Good luck with new baby Flowers

MaggieFS · 30/08/2019 14:07

I am absolutely gobsmacked!

Mxyzptlk · 30/08/2019 14:12

she needed to stay in ‘her’ room to feel comfortable

How could she feel 'comfortable' knowing that you didn't want her there for more than the weekend?

You're right, OP.
CF does need to see a medical professional about her mental health.
It's not something you should be having to cope with, at this point.

Well done for getting her out today.
Make sure DH understands and shares your outrage and that he is ready to back you up if she tries any more crap with you.
Flowers

Monkeymilkshake · 30/08/2019 14:16

Well done OP. She was clearly putting herself before anyone else and knew she would not be welcome in your house so made up all the excuses to make you feel guilty.
I dont think she is a real friend. I would never do this to a pregnant friend a couple of weeks before her due date.
I hope you get your house back tonight and can enjoy the last few weeks in piece in your own space!
If she does argue back or come back with more excuses though; i would repeat to her what she said to you: "in times of change you need your own space and you can't believe she was putting her own desire to be a bit more confortable over your genuine need of space and calm before pushing a human out of you!!!!!"

Welliesandpyjamas · 30/08/2019 14:17

Wow! What a drama - some friend! She needs mire help than you can and have already given.

CandyLeBonBon · 30/08/2019 14:18

Wow!

mbosnz · 30/08/2019 14:19

Well she was so sharp she ended up cutting herself, didn't she?

What you said to her was spot on, and far more helpful and to the point than the enabling and infantalising of her that was going on previously.

Frownette · 30/08/2019 14:23

She managed to find a new job elsewhere, find accommodation and move, book the course etc. She's not as helpless as she's making out.

I find it disturbing she thinks of the room as being 'hers'. It's lucky she got your hackles up.

Oh well OP, she'll be gone by end today and you can relax with family before c-section. Just let us know when she's gone!

MinisterforCheekyFuckery · 30/08/2019 14:28

Well done, OP. That can't have been easy but that confrontation clearly needed to happen.

Be prepared for there to be more tears, more emotional manipulation and for it to be 'your fault' that she's now feeling miserable. I am the last person to minimise MH issues (I work with families who are severely affected by MH and have had my own struggles) but anxiety/depression should never be used as an excuse for this kind of selfishness, and when they are it puts friends and family in an impossible position because it's hard to set boundaries without looking like the 'bad guy'. Your friend needs to stop using your home and your family as an escape from her own life. It's very sad that she doesn't like where she's living and that she's lonely, but those things aren't your responsibility to fix. Trying to insert herself into your home and family (even after you've made it clear that this has become an imposition) might make her feel happier in the short term but it won't give her any incentive to change her situation in the long run.

username678889 · 30/08/2019 14:33

OMG I'm shocked at all these people running around trying to sort your friends accommodation . Is she actually a adult ?
As much as I have sympathy for people That have anxiety issues I can't be arsed with the woe is me . She burst into tears because she's been caught out . No one in there right mind would intrude on a family so close to someone giving birth . It's all about her I'm afraid and it was never going to end well .

Bookworm4 · 30/08/2019 14:34

Maybe she can go stay with the Mexican house thieves, she’s certainly on their level of CFuckery!!

FloatingObject · 30/08/2019 14:36

Going completely against the grain here. I find it really sad that we must surely be one of the rare few countries in the world where you have an entire extra floor in your house and you can't temporarily house a friend you describe as "would always be there for me". This isn't a pop at the OP, but our society.

Second of all, it's you who has turned this into a massive deal. She texted to ask you if it was okay. You could have just texted: "I'm sorry but there is no way you can come and stay for the course as I am totally overwhelmed right now what with the baby coming. Really sorry but it's not possible. Also, it will generally be really tricky from now on with more people in the house, so the monthly stays will sadly need to stop. End of an era eh? Just thought I'd give you the heads up so you can sort accomm for next week, please let me know when you're in town and let's do dinner x".

Instead you weren't honest and it's now her fault?!

georgialondon · 30/08/2019 14:45

Haha@FloatingObject are you LF? GrinGrinGrin

vavavoomdeboom · 30/08/2019 14:47

@FloatingObject

There's always the one!

TalkToMeAboutSocialWorkPlease · 30/08/2019 14:50

@FloatingObject

From the 24th, last Saturday,

I've responded saying she is welcome to stay with us for just the weekend before the course, but we can't do the whole stretch as we're moving toddler into their own room pre baby (not sure if we actually will right away but setting up the room is useful). I added that while she's here we'd love her help clearing the guest room and moving furniture as we're re-jigging all the upstairs rooms. Guest room will become playroom, the guest bed is going on gumtree Sunday afternoon.

palahvah · 30/08/2019 14:52

wow, @floatingobject !

The OP has put this friend up, and others, frequently.

OP thought the friend would 'always be there for her' but the friend has consistently shown that she isn't there for her - she has not been a very considerate houseguest, she's pushed the boundaries enormously, lied and played several mutual friends off each other, and completely disregarded the needs and wishes of her heavily pregnant friend. OP needed her, LF absolutely wasn't there for her.

The OP pretty much said the same thing as was in your suggested message, but went further and kindly offered LF the weekend to stay, which the LF abused.

Frownette · 30/08/2019 14:53

They want time as a family FloatingObject, OP and DH want to work through some marital problems. Friend is getting in the way and by sounds of things creating more work when OP is very tired.

leomama81 · 30/08/2019 14:54

RTFT @FloatingObject she doesn't have an "entire extra floor", she needs those rooms for her other children as she is about to give birth. And if you have actually read any of this, you would realise the idea of her being a friend "who would always be there for me" has been very clearly demonstrated to be an overly generous and entirely false belief.

Cherrysoup · 30/08/2019 14:58

I said she and I need to have a break from each other. I told her to pack her car before leaving for her course today and leave her key on the table when she goes.

Quote honestly, I’m cracking the champagne open for you! Well done! By doing this, she has spoilt your friendship. She’s basically planned to stay with you for the whole three weeks! Bloody outrageous!

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