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How do you come to terms with being screwed out of £60,000?!!

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greatbritishknee · 21/08/2019 20:06

I have posted about this before under a different user name - just in case anyone recognises the story - things have progressed further now though.

I am genuinely looking for any wise words that might help me see this whole situation in a more positive light or just help me navigate a way forward.

We had an extension built earlier this year - and I know that to own a house and be doing an extension already makes me someone who has been incredibly lucky in the general lottery of life.

We borrowed 50K from the bank which was the max we could (on top of our mortgage) according to our salaries so there is no possibility of borrowing more for a long time.

Throughout the build the relationship with the builder broke down completely as he got furious with us for ever questioning or complaining about anything. At the end of of the build he sent us a final invoice but we sent back a snagging list and also the requirement for the final building control inspection (having found out he had not organised any of the interval inspections with building control in spite of telling us he had both verbally and it was in his contract to do so).

He went mad at us and started making threats if we don't pay him all the money and has carried out some of these threats including contacting my place of work and telling them I am mentally unstable and have post natal depression and am aggressive and volatile (our second child was born prematurely during the build and we also have a just turned 2 year old), he contacted social services and told them the same, that we were a risk to our children and my husband is abusive. He contacted the GMC and told them I was not safe to see patients (I am a doctor). He has threatened to contact my husband employers with similar and also my Dad's. He has threatened to send bailiffs round. He has told us he wants us to lose everything including our home. Just for the record there is absolutely no basis to any of his assertions about our character.

It was hell. Eventually we got the police involved and the harassment side of things has now stopped. Nothing has come of any of his accusations as they are all baseless but it was a terrifying time - never knowing what his next move might be.

Now he has backed off but cut a long story short it turns out he did a terrible job of the build - to the extent that it will have to be knocked down and re-built. No part of it complies with building regs not least the foundations are not deep enough. He told us he was getting building control in but he wasn't. Quotes for the re-build are coming in at £60,000 plus but we won't be able to afford to this for a long time - this means we are tied to the house and the area until we can which was not our plan.

I know we will eventually cobble the money together through a few years of hard saving and contributions from family and we are incredibly lucky to be in the position to do that. But I can't get my head round all the other things we could have done with that money - not least for our children. I can't believe how hard he went after us - and me in particular - having recently given birth - and all along he had completely screwed the whole thing up. We will have to change the way we live for the next few years to save the money.

The reason I am posting today is because we finally found out for sure there is no point in pursuing him for the money - he is personally liable but doesn't seem to have any assets - so we would win in court but never actually get the money.

Can anyone help me frame this in a more positive light? I know I am so fortunate in SO many ways - I just need to get my head around this so I can move on. Anyone got any stories of having been though similar and come out the other side?

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totolouise · 23/08/2019 14:29

I haven’t read all of the replies, just the 1st page, but do you have legal cover on your house insurance?
If so, they may pay your costs to take him to court.
Also, did you actually pay the builder any money?
If so, how did you pay-cash?
If so, report him to HMRC, as I doubt he will have declared any of it, or money from any other jobs he has done.
If he told you the addresses of any of the other jobs he has done, let HMRC know those as well, so they can investigate.

SunnyUpNorth · 27/08/2019 08:45

Haven’t got much to add that hasn’t already been said, but we have had a similar thing on a smaller scale and I just wanted to commiserate with you.

We were new to our area so didn’t have many people to ask for recommendations. But we had lots of quotes, did everything right, knew one person who had similar job done by him and rated him. He was also really, really personable and nice. He was also our most expensive quote and lives very near us so we felt everything would be fine. Totally shoddy job, will all need to be redone in time.

He too threatens violence when we tried to get him to admit the work was badly done and substandard. Every single time we have a contractor for something in our house now the start about how bad the work is and what they would have done and I’m like I KNOW!!!!

In the end we decided not to pursue it as I felt the stress of it wasn’t worth it. I too had also just had a baby and had a toddler. During the worst days of it a friend’s son got cancer and a good friend of mine got diagnosed with terminal cancer. So I decided to take the view that if a bit of shoddy building work (well quite a lot!) was the worst problem I had to worry about then I was very lucky.

WE are also lucky that in the grand scheme of life the sums involved wont materially affect us.

For a long time it made me feel sick and really anxious. Eventually that has faded but reading posts like yours brings it all back. I agree that the sooner you can get it rectified the sooner you can bring move on.

I have decided that karma will catch up with him eventually.

It has left me very unsure when dealing with the tradesmen though. I no longer trust my instincts, references etc.

This all happened about 6 years ago and then this winter we embarked on a big building project which also went wrong!! They did a runner about 3/4 of the way through. It was a nightmare trying to then get it finished but luckily most of it was salvageable so we didn’t lose everything.

We did get ripped off by a couple of the people who helped finish bits off as they knew we were desperate etc. I’m sure I now have some sort of PTSD that gets triggered by dealing with tradesmen after all this. I get really panicky and nervous even getting quotes for things now. BUt we have also come across some great guys - no good builders though!

My husband and I both work in financial services and if we knowingly ripped people off like this we would probably go to prison. How this industry can involve such huge sums of money and be so unregulated I do not know.

For your own sake and sanity do your best to have a wallow and then forget about it. Hard to do but you will get there.

species5618 · 27/08/2019 17:03

It's so frustrating that we (the poor ripped off saps) never seem to be able to get any recompense for shoddy workmanship.
Any chance he'll be coming to you OP for a prostate exam !

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 08/09/2019 12:02

Its a horrid situation. I would close down as many alleyways as possible for him to threaten you... Tell cops (don't recall if you said you had), and keep them updated of any actual implied threats..

I know that it would be more dosh... Would it make you feel better if he had a ccj against him? So it made life much more difficult for him? Would make me feel quite a lot better re my losses.... (but then that's me...). Also I think it means his actions will impact HIM as well as you!

katewhinesalot · 08/09/2019 12:26

See what treading standards advise. Also millionth checking the legal cover on your household insurance.

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